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    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to

    boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to

    be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not

    saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be messing with your endocrine system without being sure

    about the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I

    know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side

    effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be

    messing with your endocrine system without being sure about the consequences.



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    omone-increase.htm
    Thanks for the concern Captain, Re 6-oxo, yes there

    is always oposing interests out there trying to scare monger when a product has proven successfull in many

    university tests and is a leader in its field as 6-oxo is and this is to be understood.


    It is a good thing the Australian

    customs do not allow dangerous supplements be imported into this country to be used as it is very strict with with

    the importing of "dangerous goods" as we have very stringent medical guidelines that have to be adhered to and our

    customs service is the very best in the world and need to be congratulated in the efforts they go to in protecting

    our citizens from poisons and dangerous hormones and hgh ect ect.


    Out of the 100 s of testemonials supporting

    the product 6-oxo there have been several reports of some users getting a little pimpley on the back and one person

    stated he had trouble sleeping after taking it at bedtime, but overall nothing negative except from those with

    vested interests, as there always will be those scare tactics working to be subversive.


    To be sure if "Androstenetrione" posed

    any genuine health related threats our Government would never allow it to be freely imported into the country, even

    my shipment had been opened and inspected by customs agents and resealed before delivery to

    me.


    Actually

    there are hundreds of other anabolic supplements that are produced in USA and do not stand a chance of ever entering

    this country because of the scientific expertese that we posess in the detecting of "genuine" dangerous goods.



    But good

    advice from you is appreciated as there are so many agents and even herbal ingredients that can have an effect on

    the endocrine system not forgeting licorice and ginsing and many chinese herbs that the Earth has provided for us to

    use with prudence and wisdom.


    So may we be guided with the spirit of intelligence in the choices that we

    make.


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    56 years old and have been treating myself long before my doctors told me i would not live past 30 years of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I

    know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side

    effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be

    messing with your endocrine system without being sure about the consequences.



    http://pherolibrary.com/articles/pheromone-increase.htm


    Thanks Captain, I have just done some serious research on ZMA and read some fantastic reveiws, especially

    regarding sleep and energy.


    Really great stuff that i will be certain to order, thanks Squire.



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    No worries terry, just making

    sure we have a balance of opinions in the thread.

    Oh and I have supplemented my zinc intake with up to 45mg with

    good results.

    For everyone's information, 6-oxo may also have unknown problems further down the line (that

    doesn't mean it will,
    its just means that there hasn't been enough time to determine long term effects

    properly). You will also potentially experience the nastier effects of raising testosterone, such as acne and

    accelerated hair loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    No

    worries terry, just making sure we have a balance of opinions in the thread.

    Oh and I have supplemented my zinc

    intake with up to 45mg with good results.

    For everyone's information, 6-oxo may also have unknown problems

    further down the line (that doesn't mean it will,
    its just means that there hasn't been enough time to determine

    long term effects properly). You will also potentially experience the nastier effects of raising testosterone, such

    as acne and accelerated hair loss.
    Thats right as who really knows the long

    term effects of the 6-oxo substance, It is something that should be cycled, and i have a while on

    still.


    I did

    order the 1FAST400 brand ZMA from www.bulknutrition.com after reading

    some of the users comments, so will probably start out taking 2 at night, it appears they must be consumed without

    any calcium products. The price of bulknutritions own brands ( 1FAST400 ) quality is good, when compared with some

    others.

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    Right, well seeing as I still

    have the pherox and not wanting to 'waste' I have continued use and about 10 minutes ago I experimented a little

    and decided to OD a little on it. All I have to say is "Ow, it Burns!". My skin, particularily my face has gone red

    and there is a slight throbbing in my ears that is luckily fading quickly...

    Some food for thought for you guys


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    Right, well seeing as I still have the pherox and not wanting to 'waste' I have continued

    use and about 10 minutes ago I experimented a little and decided to OD a little on it. All I have to say is "Ow, it

    Burns!". My skin, particularily my face has gone red and there is a slight throbbing in my ears that is luckily

    fading quickly...

    Some food for thought for you guys
    Wow seriously

    hot stuff man, I hope ya get some hits outa it all.

    Great work

    with this and appreciate your feedback
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    Well thanks Terry, I also

    bought some ZMA and Tribulus Terrestris from Sci-MX. Its quite high end stuff and pricey so lets see if i get any

    results from this. I may need to lay off my experimentation for a while as its taking its toll on my wallet,

    especially now that Im paying for Driving lessons and the like.

    P.s The burning and pulsing sensation has

    dissapeared but my skin is still a bit red. I wonder how long that will last...

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