Individual body types and phermone effectiveness

[belgareth]

So,

theoretically there is no such thing as "phermones do not work for me", it is only a matter of experience and

experiment?

That's pretty much correct. It isn't you in the first place, pheromones affect

others around you, as does your personality, your body language and your hygene. Saying that pheromones don't work

for you is saying that they don't affect any of the people around you and that doesn't make any sense at all. If

you believe they are not working for you, you need to find out what you are doing wrong. It could be personalilty,

body language or the wrong mones/doses.

[chromeboy]

That's

pretty much correct. It isn't you in the first place, pheromones affect others around you, as does your

personality, your body language and your hygene. Saying that pheromones don't work for you is saying that they

don't affect any of the people around you and that doesn't make any sense at all. If you believe they are not

working for you, you need to find out what you are doing wrong. It could be personalilty, body language or the wrong

mones/doses.

That I understand. Thank you.

What I am asking is that is there any scientific study or

even non-scientific rumour that states that "phermones do not work with certain types/kinds of body chemistries".



For example some people just sweat too much; some people naturally smell funny; or some people have naturally

unique body characteristics (being hairy etc)...

I am concerned more about that. Holding physical appearance,

character, age and social behaviour constant, can body chemistry "only" cause phermones NOT to work?

[jvkohl]

What I am

asking is that is there any scientific study or even non-scientific rumour that states that "phermones do not work

with certain types/kinds of body chemistries".

For example some people just sweat too much; some people

naturally smell funny; or some people have naturally unique body characteristics (being hairy etc)...

I am

concerned more about that. Holding physical appearance, character, age and social behaviour constant, can body

chemistry "only" cause phermones NOT to work?

Fish Odor Syndrome = natural body odor that is

"fishy"

smelling.
http://www.medical-library.net/sites..._syndrome.html
That's

the only one I know about that might cause pheromones not to work. Of course, diabetic ketoacidosis results in a

characteristic odor, also. There are probably other odor-associated disease states and syndromes--but don't panic.

Unless someone has told you that you smell funny.

JVK

[chromeboy]

Fish Odor

Syndrome = natural body odor that is "fishy"

smelling.
http://www.medica

l-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/_fish_odor_syndrome.html
That's the only one I know about that might

cause pheromones not to work. Of course, diabetic ketoacidosis results in a characteristic odor, also. There are

probably other odor-associated disease states and syndromes--but don't panic. Unless someone has told you that you

smell funny.

JVK

No, nobody told me

that. Thanks Dr.Kohl.

I wish to approach this as methodological as possible. Is there any way to measure the

amount and type(s) of phermone(s) that my body emits?

I understand that the orthodox method of experimenting is

to test standalone phermones in different quantities, but since the social environment we are exposed to each time

is different, accurately testing phermone effectiveness is quite difficult.

At least I would like to know the

amount of phermones I naturally "have". Is there such a method of measurement for phermone levels? Blood testing?

Urine testing? (eww)

[Friendly1]

I understand

that the orthodox method of experimenting is to test standalone phermones in different quantities, but since the

social environment we are exposed to each time is different, accurately testing phermone effectiveness is quite

difficult.

Unless you are under some sort of supervision, you always have control over where you will be

and with whom you interact.

You can easily set up an experimental schedule where you have control over the

social environments.

You'll see more immediate effects around people who don't know you. People who have known

you for a while are conditioned to react to your previous pheromone signature. Unless you wear extremely powerful

doses, they won't usually make noticeable changes in behavior right away.

The chief reason why people conclude

that pheromones don't work, in my opinion, is that they don't know what to look for.

You can easily conclude,

when you read all the superhit stories, that pheromones are supposed to produce intense sexual reactions or

aggressive same-sex behavior.

Most of the time, the pheromone-enhanced interactions are much more restrained.

You get a few more quick glances in your direction, maybe, but it's usually just easier to talk to girls and guys

treat you with a little more respect. It's subtle.

You notice the difference as time goes by because the

changes in behavior from strangers become consistent.

Guys who are true alpha male types (and they are not as

common as many guys think they are) probably won't notice much from pheromones because they already get those

sideways glances and preferential respect. They have to put themselves into situations where they would not normally

stand out to see the pheromne effect more easily.

[WhoIsGC]

...
You can

easily set up an experimental schedule where you have control over the social environments.

I was

thinking about setting up social experiments at open beginners dance classes like salsa or tango that are held

several days a week.

There are always more women there (with no history with you), you get into close contact

(exposure) and you rotate through most of them (sample size).

I could even get hard-core and set up a double

blind experiment on myself to make sure I'm not just behaving differently because I know I'm wearing mones to

verify the effect is real.

1. Make about 2 - 4 mixes of NPA + (some -nol?) + cologne (low to high strength)
   
   and one mix being just cologne
2. Put in identical spray bottles and put a label inside each (suggestions?) as I do
   
   it. Write down the label and what the mix concentration was. Seal the spray bottles (so I can't see the inside
   
   label anymore).
3. Put the bottles in a bag and mix them up. Pull them out and label the outside 1, 2, 3,
   
   etc...
4. Every time I go to a dance class I keep rolling a dice until I get a number on one of the bottles. I use
   
   one spray from that bottle on my shirt (to prevent mone buildup).
5. Record my experiences for that
   
   session.
6. Repeat this for a few weeks.
7. Try to predict which bottle had no mones and what the other mixes
   
   might have been. (3 had no mones, 2 was OD strength NPA, ...)
8. Open the bottles and make a not of what number
   
   corresponded to what mix (1 was mix B, 2 was mix D, ...).
9. See how accurate my guesses were.

Probably need

to do this experiment a few times, but it would certainly be really interesting data.

The only thing I worry

about is my ability to smell -none under the cologne. Is there any cologne that can really cover NPA so well you

can't smell it at all? (even at near OD strengths?)

Otherwise maybe I'll have to add a drop or two of cat-piss

to the control bottle.

Any suggestions on how to improve this experiment? (the next cycle of classes

starts in 2 weeks).