Reply With QuoteI wouldn\'t tell a soul.
How do you convert the non-believers?
I don\'t think I\'ve successfully converted any of my friends into believing that pheromones DO WORK. I admit it\'s subtle but it\'s certainly there. I blew an opportunity to go to a strip club yesterday with a buddy of mine, still need to try out those proving grounds, NYC is just too damn expensive. I typically tell them the story of the movie theater study regarding studying which seats are usually NOT occupied. They then applied pheromones too those seats & for the next movie, all of the seats that were applied were being sat in. I don\'t have a link for this, so most people I tell the story too do not believe me.
My roommate, kind of believes me but he\'s not sold & he definitely doesn\'t want to wear it himself. Which is great more for me!
What have you done to try to convince people that this stuff works? Or do you just keep it to yourself?
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
I wouldn\'t tell a soul.
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
Most people will think you are a fool. I have made a fool out of myself one time trying to convince someone. I think the best option is to keep it quiet. ...
Franki [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
PHEROMONES!? Oh, please! You must be joking. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
Amazing what some people do to try to get some more attention from the opposite sex, isn\'t it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] I mean pheromones... , love potion #9 ..., yeah right.
Franki [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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I got that from a group of bartenders last night. Somehow my SOE bottle came out of my jacket (same night that my keys came out too). Anyway I went back the next day to get my keys & tore my apt. apart looking for the SOE bottle to no avail. So last night on a hunch I went back to the bar & asked if they had it, I showed them another bottle of identical size, they asked if there was a sticker with some writing on it & I said yes. They got it for me & I was real excited, think I said like, \"[bad word] Awesome!\" I know the bartender & he\'s like, \"What\'s the big deal?\" I told him this stuff is worth like $50 - & he takes a double take & looks at the bottle & he says what\'s in there? I said pheromones, do you know what they are? Him and the other bartender looked at each & laughed, LOL, jokes on them!
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
I wouldn\'t even try to convert anyone. Pheromones are too widely publicized as it is. Better to keep it hush-hush. People who are truly interested will look it up on a search engine and probably end up here ... Cuddles [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Agreed. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
i am surprised anyone would laugh. i don\'t knw why they would assume they don\'t work. i also do not think mones are much publiciized. otherwise i would have gotten them a while back. i wish i had gotten them a long time ago
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
I know they are advertised in Men\'s mags like Maxim & Playboy (I don\'t buy it for the articles), but it\'s just APC which we all know is pretty weak & expensive for what you get. I think it\'s great that people spend cash on APC to see if it really works & then they are disappointed & tell all of their friends & so on, & so on...less competition!
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
I saw keep it as quiet as possible, and only tell people you really trust who won\'t let you down.
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
i am with u..... i don\'t want women to start being weary of guys wearing mones
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As of now it seems as we are in the golden age of pheromone\'s. Maybe not exactly with the technological aspect of -mones but more with rarity of it at this point. For example when I go to school I am 100 percent sure I am the only guy wearing TE (or any phero\'s). Now if more people jump on the bandwagon I guess that won\'t give me \"The Edge\".
I am not saying that no one deserves to no about pheromone\'s its just like what was said above I am not going to try like madness to get someone else to try it and them not even want to simply look it up on google but gets the payoff.
It seems that whenever I mention pheromones (rarely and never told I was buying them) people laugh at me or say isn\'t that pathetic and just give me a hard time. What makes me mad is I know damn well under it all they would try it, or maybe not because people act like you are from mars when you mention it. So I keep my mouth shut completey almost no one except maybe my bro know about it.
Now I am sure there are countless guys out there that could really use a tool, and anyone with an open mind and a closed mouth :} (J/K) is more then welcome to experiment.
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
I think it’s like the Zen parable about, “You can’t poor tea into a full cup.”
I’ve only shared with three guys and had no trouble getting them to try it. But they had already more or less given themselves up for celibate.
Re: How do you convert the non-believers?
So far I\'ve only told about three of my guy friends. One thinks it\'s a load of sh!t. Another is only is a tad skeptical. And my good friend Nate, is a firm believer especially he witnesses two unbelievable hits from two waitresses in two separate occasions. All three of these guys tend to have pretty bad luck with women and since none of them swing dance, I don\'t consider them too much competition [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] .
As for the ladies, I haven\'t told a soul.
I have only told my roommate, I
am still waiting for him to bust my balls in front of his girlfriend (a total social butterfly) It seems dangerous
to let the cat out of the bag. I dont want to be known as the creepy geek who uses science to get a date.
Well, it might only be me and my
egoistic self, but I have and will not in the future tell anyone about the pheromones. Why even should I? I
am convinced that the pheromones give me the special edge, what (when having mastered some "game" too) almost noone
else has. The more people (especially the people I hang around with the most, my best friends etc.) know about it,
the less edge for me!
So - to my mind trying to convert people to believe in pheromones and telling them about
the products can only have negative effect. There are two most likely scenarios:
1) I will tell
people (for example my closest friends) about pheromones. They try it, they become believers. I go out with them,
all of us wearing 'mones and I am not anymore the special person having the special edge. BAD, is it
not!?
2) I will tell people (for example my closest friends) about pheromones. They will either try it and seeing
that no hot chick is tearing their panties to rags and instantly wanting to jump their bones, laugh you out and
think you are some desperate weirdo. Or they will just laugh you out and make fun of you without even trying. In my
book, this is definitely NO GOOD.
I do not know - is it just my evil selfishness? But this is what I
really think.
I prefer to keep it top secret and have the privilege of having the edge.
Outside of cyberspace, I wouldn't
tell a living soul either. I get to confess my darkest secrets here! I'm not too worried what people think--I'm
long past that stage in my life--but I need very advantage I can get. Why toss it away and level the playing
field?
But I think you guys are right about most folk thinking you're loco. I can't convince most of my
friends to eat organic veggies, drop processed foods or start working out--things widely proved to be good for you.
Why would they believe me if I told them they could improve the quality of their social and romantic activities by
spending a few benjamins on special sauce?
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Well, I did not mean I am too
worried being laughed at, but I just wanted to point out that this is one of the scenarios that might happen and I
cannot see absolutely anything positive in it.
When I tell friends who say 'IOriginally Posted by Premizen
don't believe they work" my response is "I don't care what you believe, I'm telling you the biological facts."
Otherwise, all the discussion amounts to is a matter of personal opinion. I've found that, typically, the personal
opinions of most people are not swayed by biological facts. Too bad, for
them.
JVK
Too bad, indeed. But, well, the
actual point of my first reply in this topic was just to point out that in my opinion, there is no positive outcome
from telling friends (or anyone else) about pheromones and myself using them.
The thing about being laughed at was
just an (apparently lousy) example how in my opinion not keeping the 'mones top secret can only be bad.
Imagine saying that to a bunch of rednecks in a bar."I don't care what you
believe, I'm telling you the biological facts."
Sounds like fightin' words to me!
My friends would use every chance they had to c*ck block me with the info. Ridicule at
their hands I could take but telling them would leave me way too open to attack in front of possibly interested
women. I probably need new friends
A number of my friends, mostly
other business owners know about my mone us. Several of them use mones themselves for the same reasons I do, they
help in business relationships. A few think its weird but the rest are beliebers.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I've thought about
giving my best friend since high school some various flavors of gel packs I have since I don't use them much. I'm
curious to see what reaction they would cause between him and his wife. But in the past, he's shared information
about me with others that I wished he hadn't. Not maliciously, he was just making conversation at those
times.
So every time before I visit, I think about giving him some gel packs. Then once I get there I have
second thoughts. I had a "cyber affair" with a woman a few years back whom I told about using Realm. But other than
that, I haven't thought of telling anyone I know face to face about using them.
They used to have a dog that
just loved me. Back then, I was using some less sophisticated, non-Love Scent pheromone colognes bought from an
adult product company and wondered if they were the cause. I did bring out open bottles of the colognes in front of
my friends to see if the scents would attract the dog. These were generic looking cheap cologne bottles though and
did not prominently display that they contained pheromones.
And no, the dog completely ignored the bottled
colognes and kept her attention on me.
By understanding biology and the
impact of pheromones on biologically based sexual behavior, you could potentially show an understanding of human
sexuality that is far beyond the grasp of other mere mortals. An intellectual alpha male can sometimes do better
this way than a physical alpha male. If a woman realizes that you know more about human sexuality than most men,
she's more likely to take an interest in what you can teach her. Hopefully, she already understands that experience
is the best teacher, and will then engage you in some manner that helps her to learn. Talking to a potential partner
about pheromones should lead to talking about sex. And talking about sex can set the mood for sexual
experience.
JVK
I made the mistake of becoming
too excited when I had my first few successes with pheromones and I told a few people. Bad move. Not only did I
blow my opportunity to experiment on them, but now I have one of them actively competing with me by using 'mones
herself whenever we get together.
She started blabbing about them, too... until I pointed out how stupid it was
for me to have told her, and why. She also shut her mouth. But she did tell one person... and so the leak is
beyond my control.
Point is, "converting" others is just shooting yourself in the foot. Let them suffer.
I told one woman I was dating a
couple of years ago about the pheromones (before we started dating). She said she didn't believe in them but knew
I was using them when we were going out. I doubt I convinced her of their effectiveness.
I recently told a male
friend of mine, who is having trouble finding a girlfriend, to try the pheromones. He actually meets a lot of
girls. One of his jobs is teaching evening classes at a local community college. There are tons of girls who, by
his description, do their best to provoke him in various ways. He also meets a lot of girls through his social
circle.
But he just refuses to believe that pheromones work. And he acknowledges that I have girls coming on to
me quite often.
I don't tell most people about them because I don't want to have to put up with a lot of petty
comments, but they do definitely provide an advantage in meeting people and making favorable impressions on them. I
wish for my friend's sake he would try them. I know he would be convinced after a few tests.
Maybe you could
secretly apply some to his back or somethng... take notes as to what time you did that, and then when he starts
getting hits, tell him? He'll ofcourse not believe you, and then you can say, "Here's my notes. Here's what I
used. Follow what I did and see if you get the same results."
Then let him go a while without them...
I have
always found it amusing tothink about getting someone in a foul mood by secretly ODing themon NPA or something. Not
that I'd ever do such a thing, but it's funny.
Anyway, that's one option...
This is certainly a rational and well thought out response. Nevertheless, expounding onBy understanding biology and
the impact of pheromones on biologically based sexual behavior, you could potentially show an understanding of human
sexuality that is far beyond the grasp of other mere mortals. An intellectual alpha male can sometimes do better
this way than a physical alpha male. If a woman realizes that you know more about human sexuality than most men,
she's more likely to take an interest in what you can teach her. Hopefully, she already understands that experience
is the best teacher, and will then engage you in some manner that helps her to learn. Talking to a potential partner
about pheromones should lead to talking about sex. And talking about sex can set the mood for sexual
experience.
the biology of human sexually is not likely to entice attractive women, at least not any more likely than lecturing
on quantum mechanics. Beyond a few wayward geeks, women usually prefer the intrigue of the mating ritual; that is,
the mystery, romance and illusion (perhaps elusion too) of it all. Whispering the secrets of her underlying hormonal
responses, rather than sweet nothings, will give her a confused giggle and quick legs for the door.
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