How to act congruent with Alpha Dream Alpha Machio

[HornyMan]

I'm starting to think Instant Shine/AMMO better suits me, with sometimes some A314 thrown in in very low doses for that "good catch" vibe.

However, I like that AM makes me somewhat relaxed, and relaxes women. I feel I can be very mellow with it on. I don't club much these days (I'm 42) and don't like the late nights very much. I'm wondering if this PRODUCT is somewhat incongruent with who I am.

Maybe I can describe myself to better get a feel for what you guys would think would be a congruent product? Here goes:

42, 5'8", 175 lbs, 35" waist (Looking to lose 10 lbs of fat).
First impressions are that I am somewhat not relaxed in the face, and don't smile too much when making conversation. this is somewhat due to the fact that I am bipolar.

I am collecting a paycheck everything month and work only part time hours from home but it is enough to pay the bills and save some dough too.

I invested in a electric guitar system and over the last 1.5 years have learned 6 u2 songs and recented started my own youtube channel gradually converting them over to video format.

I have business cards made that show I am an electric guitarist and it has my youtube channel and email on it ready to give out to my prey.

I am waiting till I achieve slightly more videos converted over on my youtube channel so that I can have some STATUS. Right now its all very beginning stage. Sure I know 6 complicated songs note for note and play through thousands of dollars of equipment but people who are not invited to my condo would never know. they would only see the 2 songs that have been converted.. I am waiting for this # to reach 4 before I start giving out my cards. This will take me till March 2012.

I am wondering whether i should stay somewhat mysterious and let people know I'm a guitarist and have them guess that converting over 4 songs to youtube is just part and parcel of what I do and leave it up to their imagination what Imay be (i.e. a pro guitarist, someone who plays gigs or teaches for a living). They would never know as I am not looking for a serious relationship with women and would be happy to kiss, fondle and maybe a bit more. I'm not planning on going into the sex stage now just testing the waters.

The other option is honesty. I don't have to play the rockstar. i can play the cibc employee who works out of his condo for a living and plays guitar as a hobby on youtube. I can hand out my card to show this hobby and gains womens admiration, as music is a universal language and the type I play is soothing and sometimes full of excitement. I do covers of real U2 songs note for note and I leave out the lyrics so all people watch are live guitar instrumental videos played to backing tracks of drums, bass, synth etc.

I'm hoping to build my status eventually as a guitar player once I have 8-10 video uploads and then upload free instructional lessons as well. This may help me better market myself as a guitar player down the line and give women the impression I have that rockstar vibe.

Now on to me. I feel I need some way to get shyness of approaching beautiful 20-30 year olds out of my head and the best way is to get my mind off of sex. Sure I lift weights, do cardio, and am trying to lose the last 10 lbs but that is not enough. the world is now full of 20 year old competition who are 6 feet tall and in shape. At 5'8" and 42 years of age my looks won't be enough to pull I need more.

I want to bait them into a status building approach by handing out my card. But not so in a fashion that turns me into a deparate businessman just trying to gain clients. I am indeed only trying to use my card as a point of contact after I develop some rapport with a lady, and perhaps feel that if I ask for their number I have a high chance of being rejected but if I leave them my card after smalltalk it is less threatening. Furthermore, if they take the bait and watch my videos infatuation, and pursuing has begun without me going after them. That means interest is there for them to chase ME.

I plan on only leaving my email address on the card as I don't need any stalkers. If women want to hear my music they can on youtube or in my car where I have songs recorded to CD ROM.


The point of all this blab really is one thing. Which mone signature will best complement me? I like women between 20-30, good looking, 5'2"-5'5". Mainly white (european) or brown skin (indian , spanish).

I am taking a testosterone supplement and working with weights and find I OD on A7 now so I don't use it. And it attracts all the old 40-60 year old women to me. Its really not my cup of tea.

IS/AMMO has always worked for me, but it mainly pulls blondes and very young girls like 15-23.

I need to meet people in the daytime and people I won't run into every day or those who want to see my place. I figure i would only bring them back to my place if I wanted a relationship with them. Don't need every girl I date (for security reasons one thing) knowing my address.

Any tips guys? IS/AMMO/A314 also projects a man of high status but at this time my status is low as I can't really market myself as a guitar player with only 2 videos out. i need to wait till it gets up to 4 or so so its more believable. By then I may know 8 songs 4 of which are converted to video and youtube.

Aside from mones from other sites any takers on products which would suit me here? Edge NPA is a nightmare, turns me into an ANGRY SOB. I even look it. I OD too easily with that much none.

Cheers

HM

[terry0400-40]

I'm starting to think Instant Shine/AMMO better suits me, with sometimes some A314 thrown in in very low doses for that "good catch" vibe.

However, I like that AM makes me somewhat relaxed, and relaxes women. I feel I can be very mellow with it on. I don't club much these days (I'm 42) and don't like the late nights very much. I'm wondering if this PRODUCT is somewhat incongruent with who I am.

Maybe I can describe myself to better get a feel for what you guys would think would be a congruent product? Here goes:

42, 5'8", 175 lbs, 35" waist (Looking to lose 10 lbs of fat).
First impressions are that I am somewhat not relaxed in the face, and don't smile too much when making conversation. this is somewhat due to the fact that I am bipolar.

I am collecting a paycheck everything month and work only part time hours from home but it is enough to pay the bills and save some dough too.

I invested in a electric guitar system and over the last 1.5 years have learned 6 u2 songs and recented started my own youtube channel gradually converting them over to video format.

I have business cards made that show I am an electric guitarist and it has my youtube channel and email on it ready to give out to my prey.

I am waiting till I achieve slightly more videos converted over on my youtube channel so that I can have some STATUS. Right now its all very beginning stage. Sure I know 6 complicated songs note for note and play through thousands of dollars of equipment but people who are not invited to my condo would never know. they would only see the 2 songs that have been converted.. I am waiting for this # to reach 4 before I start giving out my cards. This will take me till March 2012.

I am wondering whether i should stay somewhat mysterious and let people know I'm a guitarist and have them guess that converting over 4 songs to youtube is just part and parcel of what I do and leave it up to their imagination what Imay be (i.e. a pro guitarist, someone who plays gigs or teaches for a living). They would never know as I am not looking for a serious relationship with women and would be happy to kiss, fondle and maybe a bit more. I'm not planning on going into the sex stage now just testing the waters.

The other option is honesty. I don't have to play the rockstar. i can play the cibc employee who works out of his condo for a living and plays guitar as a hobby on youtube. I can hand out my card to show this hobby and gains womens admiration, as music is a universal language and the type I play is soothing and sometimes full of excitement. I do covers of real U2 songs note for note and I leave out the lyrics so all people watch are live guitar instrumental videos played to backing tracks of drums, bass, synth etc.

I'm hoping to build my status eventually as a guitar player once I have 8-10 video uploads and then upload free instructional lessons as well. This may help me better market myself as a guitar player down the line and give women the impression I have that rockstar vibe.

Now on to me. I feel I need some way to get shyness of approaching beautiful 20-30 year olds out of my head and the best way is to get my mind off of sex. Sure I lift weights, do cardio, and am trying to lose the last 10 lbs but that is not enough. the world is now full of 20 year old competition who are 6 feet tall and in shape. At 5'8" and 42 years of age my looks won't be enough to pull I need more.

I want to bait them into a status building approach by handing out my card. But not so in a fashion that turns me into a deparate businessman just trying to gain clients. I am indeed only trying to use my card as a point of contact after I develop some rapport with a lady, and perhaps feel that if I ask for their number I have a high chance of being rejected but if I leave them my card after smalltalk it is less threatening. Furthermore, if they take the bait and watch my videos infatuation, and pursuing has begun without me going after them. That means interest is there for them to chase ME.

I plan on only leaving my email address on the card as I don't need any stalkers. If women want to hear my music they can on youtube or in my car where I have songs recorded to CD ROM.


The point of all this blab really is one thing. Which mone signature will best complement me? I like women between 20-30, good looking, 5'2"-5'5". Mainly white (european) or brown skin (indian , spanish).

I am taking a testosterone supplement and working with weights and find I OD on A7 now so I don't use it. And it attracts all the old 40-60 year old women to me. Its really not my cup of tea.

IS/AMMO has always worked for me, but it mainly pulls blondes and very young girls like 15-23.

I need to meet people in the daytime and people I won't run into every day or those who want to see my place. I figure i would only bring them back to my place if I wanted a relationship with them. Don't need every girl I date (for security reasons one thing) knowing my address.

Any tips guys? IS/AMMO/A314 also projects a man of high status but at this time my status is low as I can't really market myself as a guitar player with only 2 videos out. i need to wait till it gets up to 4 or so so its more believable. By then I may know 8 songs 4 of which are converted to video and youtube.

Aside from mones from other sites any takers on products which would suit me here? Edge NPA is a nightmare, turns me into an ANGRY SOB. I even look it. I OD too easily with that much none.

Cheers

HM

Ok here is something that i use and it should suit you very well, its called "Wolf Pheromone Cologne for Men"

[HornyMan]

Terry

How is Wolf different from A314? Also what age range of woman does it attract and what nationality? I tried doing a google search on it and there is almost no reviews just an ad. if it is better or different than a314 please describe how! HM

[terry0400-40]

Terry

How is Wolf different from A314? Also what age range of woman does it attract and what nationality? I tried doing a google search on it and there is almost no reviews just an ad. if it is better or different than a314 please describe how! HM

Wolf is similar to A314 however it displays a most acceptable degree of approachability, i have used my share of A314 over the years and also i am on my second bottle of Wolf and in my opinion and the opinion of many other experienced users Wolf is a much friendlier product than A314, applying two or three drops makes for a great application because it commands a fair degree of friendly respect and it attracts the attention of todays young woman.
Here is description of the product that i have pasted here from the Wolf site.

WOLF, the word brings many images and feelings to mind, dark forests, high mountains, moving shadows, the full moon, and feelings of not being quite safe. A howl in the night and everyone looks uncertainly at each other. How close is it?

How many lifetimes have humans and wolves walked the same paths? How deeply are we intertwined with each other? Are we engraved on the psyche of the wolf the way they are on us?

Some American Indian tribes believe that they are descended from wolves. I like the idea. I don’t claim to understand it, I just like it, this mystique that surrounds the wolf. Its magic is intoxicating."WOLF, draw upon your deepest inspirations... your greatest personal strengths... instinctively conquer the tasks before you... and achieve Leader status quickly."


This is the feeling that we have attempted to induce with WOLF Cologne. That is part of the reason it has taken so long to bring it together. Not only was the scent organization complex, the pheromone formula was complex, with over 8 human pheromones or pheromone like substances. Besides, I mean, what should wolf smell like? We tried hundreds of formulas, we even tested existing perfume and colognes trying to get some idea if anything on the market inspired the feelings of wolf. I knew the spirit of what I wanted but when it came down to the actual scent. First it was too sweet, too musky, too wet dog. Not enough of this too much of that. Everyone had a different idea of what it should be.

Then the pheromones, not that they came second as I worked on both at the same time. When one would become too frustrating I would switch to the other. I at least had a better idea where I was going with the pheromones. However, getting it exactly right and consistently producing the results that I wanted has been taxing, with part of the problem being that people are only going to pay so much. So, when is good enough good enough, especially when you are trying to make something astounding?

You see we were not going for the lone wolf thing. We set ourselves the goal of creating more of a leader type vibe. I wanted something that made people not only like and trust you, but also look up to you with admiration and respect. Our goal was to create a pheromone mix that would put the wearer in the position of leader. Inspire trust, lust, and the desire to obey, and yet keep the wearer above and separate from others. We hoped to create the feeling in people that they are privileged if the wearer of WOLF decides to talk with them, or give them attention. Users of WOLF should be considered elite, I think that would be a good word for it. As I said, we are not going for the lone wolf thing here. We are going for the wise powerful leader that everyone wants to be, or be with.

Many men no longer fit this character type, but for those of you who are, or desire to be this sort of man, those of you who have not been tamed, I give you WOLF! Welcome to the tribe, NOW BE THE LEADER OF YOUR PACK!

WOLF cologne starts with dry citrus notes, that settle quickly into a warm, faintly sweet scent with a dark herbal aromatic cast. It continues to get warmer the longer it is on skin, eventually drying down to a mild blend of woods, light amber and lots of musk.

[HornyMan]

Wolf is similar to A314 however it displays a most acceptable degree of approachability, i have used my share of A314 over the years and also i am on my second bottle of Wolf and in my opinion and the opinion of many other experienced users Wolf is a much friendlier product than A314, applying two or three drops makes for a great application because it commands a fair degree of friendly respect and it attracts the attention of todays young woman.
Here is description of the product that i have pasted here from the Wolf site.

WOLF, the word brings many images and feelings to mind, dark forests, high mountains, moving shadows, the full moon, and feelings of not being quite safe. A howl in the night and everyone looks uncertainly at each other. How close is it?

How many lifetimes have humans and wolves walked the same paths? How deeply are we intertwined with each other? Are we engraved on the psyche of the wolf the way they are on us?

Some American Indian tribes believe that they are descended from wolves. I like the idea. I don’t claim to understand it, I just like it, this mystique that surrounds the wolf. Its magic is intoxicating."WOLF, draw upon your deepest inspirations... your greatest personal strengths... instinctively conquer the tasks before you... and achieve Leader status quickly."


This is the feeling that we have attempted to induce with WOLF Cologne. That is part of the reason it has taken so long to bring it together. Not only was the scent organization complex, the pheromone formula was complex, with over 8 human pheromones or pheromone like substances. Besides, I mean, what should wolf smell like? We tried hundreds of formulas, we even tested existing perfume and colognes trying to get some idea if anything on the market inspired the feelings of wolf. I knew the spirit of what I wanted but when it came down to the actual scent. First it was too sweet, too musky, too wet dog. Not enough of this too much of that. Everyone had a different idea of what it should be.

Then the pheromones, not that they came second as I worked on both at the same time. When one would become too frustrating I would switch to the other. I at least had a better idea where I was going with the pheromones. However, getting it exactly right and consistently producing the results that I wanted has been taxing, with part of the problem being that people are only going to pay so much. So, when is good enough good enough, especially when you are trying to make something astounding?

You see we were not going for the lone wolf thing. We set ourselves the goal of creating more of a leader type vibe. I wanted something that made people not only like and trust you, but also look up to you with admiration and respect. Our goal was to create a pheromone mix that would put the wearer in the position of leader. Inspire trust, lust, and the desire to obey, and yet keep the wearer above and separate from others. We hoped to create the feeling in people that they are privileged if the wearer of WOLF decides to talk with them, or give them attention. Users of WOLF should be considered elite, I think that would be a good word for it. As I said, we are not going for the lone wolf thing here. We are going for the wise powerful leader that everyone wants to be, or be with.

Many men no longer fit this character type, but for those of you who are, or desire to be this sort of man, those of you who have not been tamed, I give you WOLF! Welcome to the tribe, NOW BE THE LEADER OF YOUR PACK!

WOLF cologne starts with dry citrus notes, that settle quickly into a warm, faintly sweet scent with a dark herbal aromatic cast. It continues to get warmer the longer it is on skin, eventually drying down to a mild blend of woods, light amber and lots of musk.

Terry

I've give Wolf a try on my next purchase in December. Can it be used in gyms? Is it versatile for many environments? In what way does it attract todays young woman? Do they see you as a leader only or do they actually develop lust and insane fascination with you?



HM

[terry0400-40]

Terry

I've give Wolf a try on my next purchase in December. Can it be used in gyms? Is it versatile for many environments? In what way does it attract todays young woman? Do they see you as a leader only or do they actually develop lust and insane fascination with you?



HM

Yes it can be worn in gyms or anyplace because it is not heavy on androstEnone, i am a member of another pheromone formula where all pheromone products are openly discussed by a large number of forum members and all links are allowed to be pasted to any pheromone sellers website, and the overwhelming consensus by members of this pheromone forum is that Wolf is a great easy going product that displays its wearer in a most charismatic manner.

Therefore in specific answer to your question, women perceive the wearer of Wolf in many and various positive aspects including attraction respect fascination and of course there are always those certain ones with a continually Percolating libido who will certainly fall under the charm of the charismatic and highly intelligent wolf . . . .

[HornyMan]

Yes it can be worn in gyms or anyplace because it is not heavy on androstEnone, i am a member of another pheromone formula where all pheromone products are openly discussed by a large number of forum members and all links are allowed to be pasted to any pheromone sellers website, and the overwhelming consensus by members of this pheromone forum is that Wolf is a great easy going product that displays its wearer in a most charismatic manner.

Therefore in specific answer to your question, women perceive the wearer of Wolf in many and various positive aspects including attraction respect fascination and of course there are always those certain ones with a continually Percolating libido who will certainly fall under the charm of the charismatic and highly intelligent wolf . . . .


HM

I couldn't wait and ordered me a bottle. Will discuss eventually when I try it out. IS/ AMMO or Chikara have always been good standbys for me. For some reason I OD to easily on high none products.

[belgareth]

I'm starting to think Instant Shine/AMMO better suits me, with sometimes some A314 thrown in in very low doses for that "good catch" vibe.

However, I like that AM makes me somewhat relaxed, and relaxes women. I feel I can be very mellow with it on. I don't club much these days (I'm 42) and don't like the late nights very much. I'm wondering if this PRODUCT is somewhat incongruent with who I am.

Maybe I can describe myself to better get a feel for what you guys would think would be a congruent product? Here goes:

42, 5'8", 175 lbs, 35" waist (Looking to lose 10 lbs of fat).
First impressions are that I am somewhat not relaxed in the face, and don't smile too much when making conversation. this is somewhat due to the fact that I am bipolar.

I am collecting a paycheck everything month and work only part time hours from home but it is enough to pay the bills and save some dough too.

I invested in a electric guitar system and over the last 1.5 years have learned 6 u2 songs and recented started my own youtube channel gradually converting them over to video format.

I have business cards made that show I am an electric guitarist and it has my youtube channel and email on it ready to give out to my prey.

I am waiting till I achieve slightly more videos converted over on my youtube channel so that I can have some STATUS. Right now its all very beginning stage. Sure I know 6 complicated songs note for note and play through thousands of dollars of equipment but people who are not invited to my condo would never know. they would only see the 2 songs that have been converted.. I am waiting for this # to reach 4 before I start giving out my cards. This will take me till March 2012.

I am wondering whether i should stay somewhat mysterious and let people know I'm a guitarist and have them guess that converting over 4 songs to youtube is just part and parcel of what I do and leave it up to their imagination what Imay be (i.e. a pro guitarist, someone who plays gigs or teaches for a living). They would never know as I am not looking for a serious relationship with women and would be happy to kiss, fondle and maybe a bit more. I'm not planning on going into the sex stage now just testing the waters.

The other option is honesty. I don't have to play the rockstar. i can play the cibc employee who works out of his condo for a living and plays guitar as a hobby on youtube. I can hand out my card to show this hobby and gains womens admiration, as music is a universal language and the type I play is soothing and sometimes full of excitement. I do covers of real U2 songs note for note and I leave out the lyrics so all people watch are live guitar instrumental videos played to backing tracks of drums, bass, synth etc.

I'm hoping to build my status eventually as a guitar player once I have 8-10 video uploads and then upload free instructional lessons as well. This may help me better market myself as a guitar player down the line and give women the impression I have that rockstar vibe.

Now on to me. I feel I need some way to get shyness of approaching beautiful 20-30 year olds out of my head and the best way is to get my mind off of sex. Sure I lift weights, do cardio, and am trying to lose the last 10 lbs but that is not enough. the world is now full of 20 year old competition who are 6 feet tall and in shape. At 5'8" and 42 years of age my looks won't be enough to pull I need more.

I want to bait them into a status building approach by handing out my card. But not so in a fashion that turns me into a deparate businessman just trying to gain clients. I am indeed only trying to use my card as a point of contact after I develop some rapport with a lady, and perhaps feel that if I ask for their number I have a high chance of being rejected but if I leave them my card after smalltalk it is less threatening. Furthermore, if they take the bait and watch my videos infatuation, and pursuing has begun without me going after them. That means interest is there for them to chase ME.

I plan on only leaving my email address on the card as I don't need any stalkers. If women want to hear my music they can on youtube or in my car where I have songs recorded to CD ROM.


The point of all this blab really is one thing. Which mone signature will best complement me? I like women between 20-30, good looking, 5'2"-5'5". Mainly white (european) or brown skin (indian , spanish).

I am taking a testosterone supplement and working with weights and find I OD on A7 now so I don't use it. And it attracts all the old 40-60 year old women to me. Its really not my cup of tea.

IS/AMMO has always worked for me, but it mainly pulls blondes and very young girls like 15-23.

I need to meet people in the daytime and people I won't run into every day or those who want to see my place. I figure i would only bring them back to my place if I wanted a relationship with them. Don't need every girl I date (for security reasons one thing) knowing my address.

Any tips guys? IS/AMMO/A314 also projects a man of high status but at this time my status is low as I can't really market myself as a guitar player with only 2 videos out. i need to wait till it gets up to 4 or so so its more believable. By then I may know 8 songs 4 of which are converted to video and youtube.

Aside from mones from other sites any takers on products which would suit me here? Edge NPA is a nightmare, turns me into an ANGRY SOB. I even look it. I OD too easily with that much none.

Cheers

HM

Ok...

You are my height but I am broader built than you and can carry 190 lbs without looking overweight. I am also 55 years old but energetic. Due to an illness over the past couple years I gained some weight but am losing it rapidly. Nothing like some good exercise to improve the mood and lose weight. In my recent experience I have found that women are not as bothered by some extra weight if you also look healthy otherwise and have a good attitude. The exercise is probably going to be a big help in your mindset but you need to change your attitude about approaching women. Look at it this way, don't approach them and you are guaranteed to never get any where. But don't approach them with the idea of getting laid, approach them with the idea of meeting them as equals or even as slightly less than yourself. Tease them, joke, laugh at them a little and make it plain you are there on your terms, not theirs. Get up and walk away before they can make a solid judgment about you. Go talk to somebody else, preferrably another female. Learn to be the one that makes all the decisions and women will chase you. Of course, be interesting and mysterious. Don't talk about what you do, get them to talk about themselves by asking questions and when asked about yourself give short answers then change the subject back to them or to something innocuous. You have to do all that without being an obnoxious jerk, of course.

Once you are moving along those lines you can start thinking about the pheromone products. In my experience I have found high -none products to be bad, I OD easily. But that may not apply to you. Experiment and see what works. But pheromones are only a small part of the game. No amount ofmones will get you anywhere if you don't have the other pieces in place.

[HornyMan]

Ok...

You are my height but I am broader built than you and can carry 190 lbs without looking overweight. I am also 55 years old but energetic. Due to an illness over the past couple years I gained some weight but am losing it rapidly. Nothing like some good exercise to improve the mood and lose weight. In my recent experience I have found that women are not as bothered by some extra weight if you also look healthy otherwise and have a good attitude. The exercise is probably going to be a big help in your mindset but you need to change your attitude about approaching women. Look at it this way, don't approach them and you are guaranteed to never get any where. But don't approach them with the idea of getting laid, approach them with the idea of meeting them as equals or even as slightly less than yourself. Tease them, joke, laugh at them a little and make it plain you are there on your terms, not theirs. Get up and walk away before they can make a solid judgment about you. Go talk to somebody else, preferrably another female. Learn to be the one that makes all the decisions and women will chase you. Of course, be interesting and mysterious. Don't talk about what you do, get them to talk about themselves by asking questions and when asked about yourself give short answers then change the subject back to them or to something innocuous. You have to do all that without being an obnoxious jerk, of course.

Once you are moving along those lines you can start thinking about the pheromone products. In my experience I have found high -none products to be bad, I OD easily. But that may not apply to you. Experiment and see what works. But pheromones are only a small part of the game. No amount ofmones will get you anywhere if you don't have the other pieces in place.

That is great advice. I think I am going to focus on my body a lot as that is a key to my confidence and I've lost my shape over the last 10 years. Back in my 20's I had the body (not career) of a competitive bodybuilder. I still have decent shape but its no where like what I used to look like. I was training with heavy weights back then, now I train with only 30 lbs dumbells as my condo only stocks up to this weight. I only do multi joint movements.

As for women yes I want to be the prize but find it hard without alpha status. I am not alpha in personality, body, nor status, so its hard to go around walking like I'm all that. It would just create the impression of a confident guy who lacks achievement.

I'm about 4 months away from changing that. In 4 months I should carry 10 lbs less fat and maybe 10 lbs more muscle. In 4 months I should have 4 songs up on youtube and able to distrubute my business card. And my personality will automatically change when these things come into play.

When I was in my 20's all I did was lift weights. I knew little about alphaness qualities and didn't care for learning about it. I worked , lifted and played sports. I scored because I thought that was enough. I was convinced having a great bod could get sex and that's all I cared about. It turned into results.

Fast forward 20 years. I'm not in a business enviornment surrounded by women (In fact I work from home). Meeting people is damn difficult.

I think I'll think about mones more after I get my act back together.

I'm starting to think joining a real gym may be my best bet. I can meet people during the daytime. Once I get the body I will be in a perfect environment to succeed with short term physical satisfaction.

Any tips how to maximize success at gyms and which mones to use? It seems like if nothing else I will get out of the house which will aid conquering depression of any sort.



HM

[belgareth]

That is great advice. I think I am going to focus on my body a lot as that is a key to my confidence and I've lost my shape over the last 10 years. Back in my 20's I had the body (not career) of a competitive bodybuilder. I still have decent shape but its no where like what I used to look like. I was training with heavy weights back then, now I train with only 30 lbs dumbells as my condo only stocks up to this weight. I only do multi joint movements.

As for women yes I want to be the prize but find it hard without alpha status. I am not alpha in personality, body, nor status, so its hard to go around walking like I'm all that. It would just create the impression of a confident guy who lacks achievement.

I'm about 4 months away from changing that. In 4 months I should carry 10 lbs less fat and maybe 10 lbs more muscle. In 4 months I should have 4 songs up on youtube and able to distrubute my business card. And my personality will automatically change when these things come into play.

When I was in my 20's all I did was lift weights. I knew little about alphaness qualities and didn't care for learning about it. I worked , lifted and played sports. I scored because I thought that was enough. I was convinced having a great bod could get sex and that's all I cared about. It turned into results.

Fast forward 20 years. I'm not in a business enviornment surrounded by women (In fact I work from home). Meeting people is damn difficult.

I think I'll think about mones more after I get my act back together.

I'm starting to think joining a real gym may be my best bet. I can meet people during the daytime. Once I get the body I will be in a perfect environment to succeed with short term physical satisfaction.

Any tips how to maximize success at gyms and which mones to use? It seems like if nothing else I will get out of the house which will aid conquering depression of any sort.



HM

Good thoughts but don't crawl into a hole in the meantime. As you know from doing sports, you have to keep up training at anything. Develop a cheerful demeanor and speak to people whenever you can, men and women both. Practice, practice and practice some more. It gets easier and can be a lot of fun.

Speaking for myself only, I found I didn't have the time to go to the gym so bought the equipment I need for home use. My 'Gym' has a good quality treadmill, a home gym for resistance training and a heavy bag for practice of my martial arts skills and aerobics. My typical workout starts with a 5 minute warm up on the treadmill then a streatching routine, a routine of resistance training, twenty minutes or so with the heavy bag, then an hour on the treadmill at varying rates from a medium walk to a run. My belief is that the weights and heavy bag use up the available blood glucouse so when I get on the treadmill my body has to pull the energy from the fat cells. It seems to be working and I am losing the fat I gained pretty rapidly while growing my chest and shoulders again.

I never used mones at the gym after one or two bad experiences. During the day I typically wear A7, sometimes with SoE and covered with essential oils like deer musk and/or Aloeswood oil. It gets me a lot of compliments.

[HornyMan]

Good thoughts but don't crawl into a hole in the meantime. As you know from doing sports, you have to keep up training at anything. Develop a cheerful demeanor and speak to people whenever you can, men and women both. Practice, practice and practice some more. It gets easier and can be a lot of fun.

Speaking for myself only, I found I didn't have the time to go to the gym so bought the equipment I need for home use. My 'Gym' has a good quality treadmill, a home gym for resistance training and a heavy bag for practice of my martial arts skills and aerobics. My typical workout starts with a 5 minute warm up on the treadmill then a streatching routine, a routine of resistance training, twenty minutes or so with the heavy bag, then an hour on the treadmill at varying rates from a medium walk to a run. My belief is that the weights and heavy bag use up the available blood glucouse so when I get on the treadmill my body has to pull the energy from the fat cells. It seems to be working and I am losing the fat I gained pretty rapidly while growing my chest and shoulders again.

I never used mones at the gym after one or two bad experiences. During the day I typically wear A7, sometimes with SoE and covered with essential oils like deer musk and/or Aloeswood oil. It gets me a lot of compliments.

Why no mones at the gym? What kinds of bad experiences at the gym? Do you only use A7 SOE on days you don't work out?

Terry can you chime in here too? What are your thoughts on mones at the gym?

[belgareth]

Why no mones at the gym? What kinds of bad experiences at the gym? Do you only use A7 SOE on days you don't work out?

Terry can you chime in here too? What are your thoughts on mones at the gym?

I was involved in martial arts for many years. When I wore mones while working out others tended to get more aggressive with me and there were several incidences where somebody nearly got hurt sparing due to inappropriate aggressiveness.

I usually work out in the evenings and wear mones during the day. Now I work out at home so mones are not relevant. My comments had to do with aggression of others when I did work out around others.

[terry0400-40]

I no longer attend a public gym as i have free weights and all necessary home made equipment in my lower lever garage and i work out at home.

However i did at one time work out six days pw for nearly twenty years at a hard core body building gym, and in my opinion the last thing i could have needed was an application of added synthetic AndrostEnone, because the atmosphere was already loaded with free natural Androstenone produced by the heavy working out clients young and old so things could and did get a trifle explosive in nature sometimes.

I could that a say a person may apply some friendly social type pheromones to their gym workout although even in an air conditioned gym a person getting involved in a serious workout is going to be perspiring and to an extent the application is either going to be diluted and or converted by their perspiration by products.

However a person who may be going into the gym for a light workout or with the intention of socialising could well apply a social blend of pheromones and achieve some appropriate social levels of success.