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    Default COULD PI/w + PI/m Work 4 HIM ?

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    Considering that PI woman has 11mg androstenole with an insignificant amount of

    copulins added,say below 8 mg. And considering that most men report nothing noticable when wearing cops, Then could

    it be possable to add PI/w to an androstenone application to act as a softening agent, ie like using SOE without the

    androsterone ! and seeing PI/w contains 11mg Anol it seems like good value buying, I dont think the small amount of

    cops could cause much hastle, because even feedback from females recognise that it doesant do much for this product

    and prefer to purchase Essence of woman for their cops needs... any thoughts on the matter, pheromasters ?

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    Well I haven't found the cops in

    PI/w to do anything really and the nol definitely gets my female friends to be a lot more chatty, so maybe guys

    could use it to attract women.

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    Perhaps it would be good.. I

    don't think the the cops will give negative results..
    I can't remeber who gave the advice but also TE/w should be

    a good buy for men so perhaps this would be also..
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    I've purchased PI/w many times for

    the ~Nol. Cheaper than the CS ~Nol.
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    Yes

    Redeye that is what i like about the nol is that it tends to loosen and enhance the atmosphere somewhat for both

    sexes. And thanks for that suggestion Workingmann i will have a look at the TE/w as it seems like a good idea, ill

    check out its Anol content..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    I've

    purchased PI/w many times for the ~Nol. Cheaper than the CS ~Nol.
    It looks like case

    solved now as you have had experience with it from a slightly more mature male aspect than us, and i suppose a

    little androstenone could add a little respect to this PI/w, something similar to an A314 sort of effect, but maby a

    little more sexual than the A314 probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40
    Yes Redeye that is what i like about the nol is that it tends to loosen and

    enhance the atmosphere somewhat for both sexes. And thanks for that suggestion Workingmann i will have a look at the

    TE/w as it seems like a good idea, ill check out its Anol content..
    I have just

    checked out the TE/w and is appears it has a total pheromone content per bottle of 2.4mg which is substantialy lower

    than the PI/w that comes in at 11mg Anol per bottle plus the added cops which cut in there somewhere under 8mg, As

    Mountainjim suggests the PI/w looks like a good value source of nol. I am forced to look at things from an economy

    perspective at the moment as i have no income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40
    I have just checked out the TE/w and is appears it has a total pheromone

    content per bottle of 2.4mg which is substantialy lower than the PI/w that comes in at 11mg Anol per bottle plus the

    added cops which cut in there somewhere under 8mg, As Mountainjim suggests the PI/w looks like a good value source

    of nol. I am forced to look at things from an economy perspective at the moment as i have no income.
    I didn't say that TE/w would be better sugestion for PI/w..
    It was just that TE/m have none + 1 secret

    ingredient..
    But TE/w have none + 2 secret ingredients and therefor sometimes a womens product can be better for

    men still.. TE/w was just an example to show my point not an suggestion..
    And TE/w has a lower rate of none I think

    but then it's easier not to OD but you get 2 secret ingredients instead of 1.. But don't hang me up on it as I'm

    not sure..
    That was my only point..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    I

    didn't say that TE/w would be better sugestion for PI/w..
    It was just that TE/m have none + 1 secret

    ingredient..
    But TE/w have none + 2 secret ingredients and therefor sometimes a womens product can be better for

    men still.. TE/w was just an example to show my point not an suggestion..
    And TE/w has a lower rate of none I think

    but then it's easier not to OD but you get 2 secret ingredients instead of 1.. But don't hang me up on it as I'm

    not sure..
    That was my only point..
    Thanks Wm, yes the TE/m does have a lower rate of

    none, as you say, and would probably suit a younger person who has a naturaly higher none output, actually there are

    many young people who obtain some very good results with the TE, but a man my age would have to use 1/2 g/p i think

    to register on the radar. I am just keeping my eyes out for info on the new red spot AQ as this should prove

    interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40
    Thanks Wm, yes the TE/m does have a lower rate of none, as you say, and

    would probably suit a younger person who has a naturaly higher none output, actually there are many young people who

    obtain some very good results with the TE, but a man my age would have to use 1/2 g/p i think to register on the

    radar. I am just keeping my eyes out for info on the new red spot AQ as this should prove

    interesting.
    Yes but still if you need the same disage as TE/m than you just need a bigger shot but

    the advantage is still you get one more secret ingredient..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    ... but the

    advantage is still you get one more secret ingredient..
    Designed for women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    Designed for

    women.
    Yes but can't remember who said it in here but said TE/w was still a good buy for men

    also..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    Yes but can't

    remember who said it in here but said TE/w was still a good buy for men also..
    That may be true, but not

    specifically for the ??? ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    That may be

    true, but not specifically for the ??? ingredients.
    if it's not for the ingredients why then?


    These are the only differences..
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    I think

    if a male were to use the TE/w, Then the main pheromone ingredient would be sufficient enough for the needs of a

    young man, i am not even sure what the main ingredient pheromone is, because it states Androstenone on the sales

    pages, the same as NPA/w, and also PPA/w for that matter. I can quite easily recommend either TE/m or even PPA/m as

    in the case of the latter because at 4 drops PPA/m has offered some very credible hits for young men, and it is good

    value, sometimes a young bloke say a newbe will go and spend up big on a high volume concentrated aNONE product

    thinking that more is better, and then wonder why their one or two drops were ineffectial, of cource not realizing

    they are easily at risk of an OD, in most cases something with say 0.12mg/ml aNONE for the TE, or 0.15mg/ml aNONE

    for the PPA which in this case equates to around 2.25mg pheromone per 15ml bottle in the case for PPA which for the

    money is good value for a guaranteed and tried product, aven at between 2 and 4 drops a young man is sure to get

    attention, and the smell isnt bad either. PS with the addition of some SOE here is a combo that could be used

    in moderation by a young man and also last a long time with many hits..
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    http://pherolibrary.com/reference/product-table.html

    TE/m: androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored

    to have 1 secret ingredient)

    TE/w: androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored to have 2 secret

    ingredients)

    Since the amounts is the same for both men and womens products I would conclude TE/w would have a

    little lesser amount of androstenone
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    http://pherolibrary.com/reference/pr

    oduct-table.html


    TE/m: androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored to have 1 secret ingredient)

    TE/w:

    androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored to have 2 secret ingredients)

    Since the amounts is the same for both

    men and womens products I would conclude TE/w would have a little lesser amount of androstenone
    Yeaar

    Workingmann, i was a little intrigued that the TE/w, and for that matter any of the womans products would have aNONE

    included, but i am no expert, it just seems a little suprising to me. It would probably seem that the TE/w should

    have a lower aNONE content, I think we probably need a Pheromasters comments on this though, even so you seem to

    have a pretty good knowledge of most of these items, and would have no diffucilty at all in helping new blokes get

    started out on the path of pheromone exploration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    http://pherolibrary.com/reference/pr

    oduct-table.html


    TE/m: androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored to have 1 secret ingredient)

    TE/w:

    androstenone + secret ingredient
    (Rumored to have 2 secret ingredients)

    Since the amounts is the same for both

    men and womens products I would conclude TE/w would have a little lesser amount of androstenone
    It might

    but there is no way to be certain. It could be that the -none content is exactly the same and the 2 secret

    ingredients are equal in volume to the one secret ingredient in TE/m.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Terry I'm absolutely NO

    expert but I only say my opinion of what I think would be good, but about TE/w I was just pointing out that

    sometimes a womens product can still be good for men also..
    So perhaps would your suggestion be a good one for men

    also..

    And bel year perhaps but was just my initial thought but I'm not certain on this matter (as there

    doesn't say exact volumes in the pheromone Reference Library)
    But TE/w must still be good for men because of the

    secret ingredients because these are the only differences from TE/m..
    I don't know if the one ingredient is the

    same in both and there's one other ingredient in TE/w or it's 3 totally different ingredients..
    But still when

    TE/w was adviced for men I would say it must have been for the secret ingredients as it's the only difference

    between the 2 (men and womenss product)...
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    TE never did any good for me

    personally. I have to stay away from high -none products. Most young poeple find they have the same problem. I'd

    never suggest TE as a primary product to anybody under thirty and not often to somebody under fifty. SoE or

    or Alter Ego would all be better choices.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    TE never

    did any good for me personally. I have to stay away from high -none products. Most young poeple find they have the

    same problem. I'd never suggest TE as a primary product to anybody under thirty and not often to somebody under

    fifty. SoE or or Alter Ego would all be better choices.
    Year but the point with talking about TE

    was not the product it self but more about the fact that the womens version could be used for men as terry talked

    about with PI in the start of the thread..
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    I understand that. However, the

    point still holds. TE/w is a high -none product.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    TE/w is interesting for men,

    but I'd not hang my hat on it. It's something to experiement with. It can be useful for sexual situations.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Bel year i know..
    I've

    bought it on this argument and haven't seen bad that results yet..
    I don't know if these two secret ingredients

    is for women or what but haven't seen anything from it yet..
    But I don't have TE/m to compare results to.. But

    who know.. Might do a comparison in the future when I become a millionaire and has to have a bottle of everything in

    here
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    I think womens pheromone

    products can be useful for a man for two reasons.

    1) It may help you attract bisexual women

    2) It may give

    women the perception that other women want you ( I think this is the premise behind realm and Master).

    I am

    experimenting with PI/w right now I'll let you know how it goes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by junebug4
    I think

    womens pheromone products can be useful for a man for two reasons.

    1) It may help you attract bisexual women



    2) It may give women the perception that other women want you ( I think this is the premise behind realm and

    Master).

    I am experimenting with PI/w right now I'll let you know how it goes!
    Good

    on you Phero Pimp, This could be an interesting service project, then when you get the hang of it, look see how it

    goes with a little androstenone, Weall keep lookout 4 your results sure thing when u post it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by junebug4
    I think

    womens pheromone products can be useful for a man for two reasons.

    1) It may help you attract bisexual women



    2) It may give women the perception that other women want you ( I think this is the premise behind realm and

    Master).

    I am experimenting with PI/w right now I'll let you know how it goes!
    I think the idea behind

    Master is the mones that women wear is in it, so you will get confidence and the will to show the woman the best of

    you to get her.. And by giving you the mones that work for turning on men, you get more alert and present yourself

    better so your whole attitude apears better..
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    It sounds like a good combo, but I

    would replace the men's Primal with UNscented Alpha7. Much better product and cheaper too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junebug4
    I think

    womens pheromone products can be useful for a man for two reasons.

    1) It may help you attract bisexual women



    2) It may give women the perception that other women want you ( I think this is the premise behind realm and

    Master).

    I am experimenting with PI/w right now I'll let you know how it goes!
    I was just wondering if

    the small amount of cops in the PI/w will be sufficient to test this aspect of the product, i think you should

    receive some real value from the aNOLE part of the formula, even so i do understand that you are just testing this

    PI/w for its sake, and not for the primary test target of copulins worn by men. I think if a man wanted to do a

    serious copulins alone test, then i would say that Essence of Woman would be the one to obtain for the test, i

    suppose the tester would have to start out with the smallest amount though, I would say it would take a good man to

    test it ha ha who would be game, even so there are some few posts on this type of testing, not that it is everyones

    cup of tea, but i suppose this is how discoveries are made, but i know one thing regarding Essence of Woman, the

    ladies swear by it, as it is one of the mainstays of thier pantry, and i would say that a man probably would do well

    by using the Masters Pheromone For Men as Workingmann has discribed it so admirably in his post.
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