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Last edited by Mungojerry; 10-05-2015 at 07:56 AM.
Obviously pheromones do have
some impact on hormone levels and do effect our physiology first and foremost before they effect our physology, yes
this has been raised in the past, and some members have even gone as far as saying because of the nature of the
product (unregulated/untested) we could be doing untold and unknown things to our physiology, both in the short and
long term. For me, this is a concern. I know some members use pheromones on a daily basis, some even feel "naked" or
"incomplete" when not using them. Others may attribute this to physology, however there may be physiological reasons
for this, a kind of addiction if you will.
I personally do not use pheromones on a daily basis for this
reason. I mainly use them on a first or second date, to hook the girl, after that, I let what nature intended.
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Last edited by Mungojerry; 10-05-2015 at 07:57 AM.
By the way, I know your question
was in regards to testosterone levels and effects, but I think that is one small facet in the bigger
picture.
Jvkhol might be better able to answer...
Yeah it works that way. First
off some mone called pregna-4,20-diene-3,6-dione (PDD) lowered LH and test levels in males amongst other things.
Second off some males react poorly to none and A1 so it obviously has some negative hormonal effect on them. As for
supressing phero levels, I think modern hygene has way more effect than mones.
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Last edited by Mungojerry; 10-05-2015 at 07:57 AM.
Originally Posted by Icehawk
This compound was described to me by Clive Jennings-White (chemist for Erox/Pherin/HPS) as a progesteronic
pheromone. Progesterone is high during pregnancy and at the time a woman has her period. Lower LH and T would be the
likely result of a signal saying "find someone else; you cannot get me pregnant," while the ovulatory phase
estrogenic pheromones (copulins) signal "come and get me pregnant" by raising LH and testosterone. This is basically
what happens in other mammals to ensure what's called "properly timed reproductive sexual behavior."
-------------------------------------------------------------Originally Posted by Icehawk
The following is pure
speculation--supported by animal research but not by human
studies.
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If male pheromone enhancement
causes a decline in LH and testosterone in other males, it is not merely a function of the pheromone--it is the
combination of their own associations with dominant males (at least, in theory). If they tend to come up the loser,
we can expect a decline in testosterone levels will accompany the expectation (so they're less likely to put up a
fight--again, from an animalistic approach). But male pheromone enhancement effects on the wearer should not have
the same effect as extra pheromones have on another male. Indeed, they might have the opposite effect, making him
unconsciously aware that he is the dominant male--perhaps even increasing his testosterone
levels.
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Berliner, D.L., Monti-Bloch, L.,
Jennings-White, C., & Diaz-Sanchez, V. (1996) Functionality of the human vomeronasal organ (VNO): Evidence for
steroid receptors. Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, 58, 3, 259-265.
The citation above
is where the authors say that the progesteronic pheromone lowered testosterone. The question that remains is why
they never tested androstadienone to see if it raised testosterone (or did they?).
JVK
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Last edited by Mungojerry; 10-05-2015 at 07:57 AM.
Does this mean that if this animalOriginally Posted by jvkohl
thing should be the same for us then..
When we apply the pheroes out body thinks there a more dominant male around
us (and that's the pheroes) and it stops producing so much testosterone..? Or am I reading this the wrong
way?
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Last edited by Mungojerry; 10-05-2015 at 07:52 AM.
I can say that I definitely have an increased sex drive when wearingOriginally Posted by Mungojerry
NPA, so it must increase my own levels.
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