Hi Bruce!
Would you please
be so kind to elaborate why this is unique and interesting compared to all the other products that you
have?
Folks,
We just took delivery of a test batch of a couple of new products (one for men; one for women). They
are both scented/cologne type products, but they have a VERY unique pheromone formula which the company totally
discloses. The packaging/marketing spiel is kind of hokey, but the fragrances are not bad. The girls in the
warehouse all like the women's version. A little pricey maybe, but otherwise well-worth a try.
I'll have
it up in a jiffy here.
B
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- Buddha
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Hi Bruce!
Would you please
be so kind to elaborate why this is unique and interesting compared to all the other products that you
have?
Here is the
formula:
Copulins
Vomeropherin
Estratetraniol
TRP2 (Axillary Secretions)
V1R/V2R (Vaginal Alipathic
Acids)
Now that looks like the ultimate formula for a women's product, but they tell me it is the same formula
in both the men's and women's products. If you read their blurb on the male product, you can see their angle on
that, similar to the rationale behind Realm.
Men's
product:
http://www.love-scent.com/product_in...roducts_id/109
Women's:
http://www.love-s<br /> <br /> cen...roducts_id/110
$10. off this week.
B
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
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Ooops. Found a little typo:
If
THAT doesn't have your man feeling your oats, I will be very surprised!
Gotta fix that.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Gfunk,
Check the
formula:
Copulins
Vomeropherin
Estratetraniol
TRP2 (Axillary Secretions)
V1R/V2R (Vaginal Alipathic
Acids)
Cooter formula 999 ala estratetra. Other than EW and women's PMax there is not much on the market with
a convincing copulins thing happening. So, unless this is all BS, this takes that to a whole new level.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Interesting formula, the product
description could be a little more clear though, it doesnt sound like its been written by someone who speaks english
as a first language. This "Dr" may be from a non-english speaking country, or his PR department
perhaps.
Would be interesting to try though, I wonder if there is any .none or .nol in the product? Axillary
Secretions?? Where is that in the body? Anyone know? Under the arm pit?
It does sound like a Realm type
product..
There are no "andro" pheromones at
all. They don't believe in them for some reason. Their main man over there told me he is delivering a
presentation of his "alipathic" secretions vs. andro pheromones at some sort of convention. I'll try to get
details and I will ask him about these "secretions". I assumed they were more stuff from down yonder, but now that
you point that out, probably not.
Thanks,
B
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
The axillary lymph node is
located in the armpit of humans, and in females, axillary secretrions are part of what influence the menstrual
cycle.
Women exposed to male axillary secretions will have considerably lowered stress levels, and will generally
feel better about themselves and more relaxed.
I honestly am at a loss as to what benefits they are looking to
achieve using female axillary secretions, as in all my years of medical study, the only thing I DO know, is they can
blooming well lengthen our menstrual cycle by several days - which is defnitely not something I want, for
sure.
This one will have me leafing through medical research material when I hit the Uni later today, as I have
two free periods before teaching. I assume there must be some benefits for us gals, but whereas the male > female
secretory exposure is clear-cut, the female > male secretrory exposure is very grey..
I've just purchased the
female version "Mistress," Bruce, so will report on the results once I get a chance to put it into play.
Ail
:-)
Eight Words The Wiccan Rede Fulfill: 'An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will )O(
Awesome stuff Bruce!
I was
thinking maybe yet another "andro" formula product but this is just great news! Thanks for keep on bringing us only
the very best products and I look forward with anticipation to hear the reports coming in..
The Master Pheromones for Men is
soooo going to get one killed by their gf. Although for competitions sake or females it would look like THE
product to use. Impressive.
Master and Mistress, a
fragrance line that seeks to approximate your own pheromones, making you irresistable to yourself, the objects of
your affection, and anything with humping capabilities as defined by the U.N. Council of Mating Animals
who dosn't want that right?
Bruce, I'm gonna broke with all
these exciting new releases. May have to wait until next week to order this. But I'm definitly looking foward to
trying this out. Bruce = Summer Santa!
Anyone get a sniff of Master or
Mistress yet?
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
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"Here is what the
manufacturer has to say about the stuff:
"Master Functional Pheromoneâ„¢ was formulated to cut into the mans strong
external defenses to prevent his carnal feelings from rising so easily to the surface. With top notes of Vanilla and
Sandalwood, The Master’™ human derived pheromones will quickly enter his sensory barrier and almost immediately
elevate his mood, enhance his arousal, confidence and attitude. What is sexually attractive about a man after all?
It is his confidence, posture and demeanor and this is what attracts the female of our species! Let Masterâ„¢ take you
the next step when considering a romantic relationship with someone new or someone you care deeply about. Let Master
Functional Pheromones give you that edge to create the perfect moment to attract a woman and transport you to a time
when courtship, romance and sexual tension were only the beginning in a long and sensual dance until your partner
will let you take her to her fantasy!""
Well, I can say that I don't like the manufacturer's words... a big
mistake when using pheromones is using them to gain confidence or other internal strengths. Its best to use them for
their effects on other people. The mones are useless if you're in the wrong frame of mind. However, I've heard
some evidence that girls can smell things like copulins on guys and are attracted to it because it signals that the
guy is successful with women. This would help explain why guys often get more girls when they have a girlfriend.
I have to dissagree. If they
elevate your mood and/or do something positive to you, what's wrong about that? The vibe a man gives off is much
more powerfull than his mones. A confident guy in the right mood is much more successful than a man who's not and
just has some NPA on.
Yeah. Realm/M operates under the same concept with estratetraenol, and I'veOriginally Posted by Fatal
had a lot of success with it. Pheromones serve a whole lot of other purposes other than signalling a "you make me
horny" response in women. Feeling more upbeat and confident internally, can make you look more attractive
externally. Mones will not create a false sense of confidence, however some mones (rone, taa) can facilitate the
projection of a confident image....making you more attractive overall.
In my humbble opinion, the manufacturers pleas for exposureOriginally Posted by Muscle4Hire
are very tacky, what he states hardly makes any sense to begin with, he refers to confidence, and that with his
product you will attain this, to me thats a dangerous assumption, it could leave alot of people very stooged if the
desired effect did not work. confidence is a complicated human behaviour, and not something pheromones can give to a
person.
haha, i am curious about this one, because my firstOriginally Posted by Icehawk
thought was if my man smelled this strongly a flag would be raised, even against my better judgement...
Ageed. However, like politicians who try toOriginally Posted by bronzie
avoid slander and bs in their campains, pheromone products that don't make bs claims tend to get tossed aside. SOE
is the only product I have seen that goes out of it's way to avoid BS claims. Like it or not pheromone products are
a "magic beans" kind of industry.
24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
Chikara no results nice scent
Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
AA314 good stuff
NPA girls get frisky, stinks
A7 almost as good as NPA
SOE legit
My "Mistress" cologne has
just arrived, so will test it this weekend. Smells very good indeed.
Bit wary of "swiping it under the nose
several times, from left to right," as insructed though, as a couple of the essential oils quoted can cause
sensitivity in many people.
They are adamant it must be used thus - but we ladies can apparently use it anywhere
else we like in addition to swiping it "with the roller-ball flat against the skin above the upper lip, and under
the nose," as we have Quote: "Many, many more receptor sites than males!"
WTF?
Well..let's just see how it
pans out on Saturday night..
Ail :-)
Eight Words The Wiccan Rede Fulfill: 'An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will )O(
The only reference for either TRP2, V1R, or V2R uses these terms when referring to likelyOriginally Posted by Bruce
pheromone receptors. Maybe someone else can determine why they refer to TRP2 as an axillary secretion, and V1R/V2R
as Vaginal Alipathic Acids. Short-chain fatty acids are the basis of the copulin formula, and they already list
copulins in the formula. "Vomeropherin" is a classification, not anything specific.
JVK
This one definitly caught my
interest. But I really don't see how I can benefit from it (after looking at the ingredients.) It makes sense for a
woman to wear. But not a man. It will be very interesting to see the results that some of you guys get. I'm not
gonna drop any money on this one until I learn more about it.
jvk, your the expert in this
forum, and you can screen these "products" out. Now in lay mans terms, what would you say based on the evidence you
have at your disposal to give an opinion with regards to the effectivness of the product for its intended desired
effect? ofcourse, I dont want you getting into a conflict of interest over this, since, both products (yours and
master) are sold on love scent.
Thank you for recognizing the potential conflictOriginally Posted by bronzie
of interest. I'm certain that Bruce will investigate these products further, and I have never questioned his
decisions in this regard. As with any product, the Forum members will most likely be involved in his decision, since
they are the most influential - as consumers.
JVK
I am sure, that whatever Bruce
sells on this site works to some extent, im not questioning that. I was just trying to get the opinion of an expert.
However, I believe you are right in saying the forum members do a good job in "dissecting" these products. But it
would be good for an expert such as yourself to maybe review the other products available, but I understand that
probably that is not possible on this forum, ( guess it could be wrongly interpreted as a bias or something )
Anyway, didnt hurt in asking...
By the way, ordered SOE again,
not sure if other forum members do this, but this product is a great summer scent, leave it in the fridge, works
well on the skin when the liquid is cold. Seems it has a greater longevity on the skin in hot weather and when
applied cold, lasts all day.
Right, no harm in asking. I hope that othersOriginally Posted by bronzie
understand. It would be best if a researcher who is not closely linked to any product would publish a paper on the
efficacy of different putative human pheromones. Instead, what we have consistently seen is that people, including
researchers, publish papers that show only the efficacy of ingredients included in their product, and sometimes
disregard data suggesting efficacy of other compounds. And, when there is no scientific data, the marketing folks
tend to make it up.
With the success of the Scent of Eros line came advertising on a totally unrelated
marketing site using the phrase "Scent of Eros Pheromones," while noting that pheromones are sometimes referred to
as the Scent of Eros. Their response to my complaint was to cite European Trademark law. But, if I were to denouce
claims of their product's efficacy, it would probably draw more attention to them, and their despicable,
unknowledgeable, portrayal of human pheromone products.
On the other hand, if I promote my product line as
the only effective products on the market, I would be falling into a marketing trap, because sooner or later someone
would come up with another effective product. So, I try to temper my comments, and pay attention to comments on the
Pheromone Forum. Even if I recognize a product to be bogus, it's far better for all concerned to let at least a few
others find out for themself. Remember the Pherlure thread? It went on for a long time, and was -so far as I'm
concerned- a complete waste of time. But, I'm relatively certain that some people learned something along the way.
Minimally, we each should be wary of marketing ploys, whether or not they seem to be blatant. Most will be, as that
is the nature of marketing.
Many people are not aware that I published my book in 1995, and the Scent of Eros
products were not even a consideration until the original product came out in 2001. When I updated the book for the
2002 paperback edition, I still was not using it for product promotion. Some marketing folks would think me a fool
in this regard. Professional ethics and scientific credibility are more important to me than the opinions of others.
But, wait a minute, I just plugged my book, didn't I? There are times when saying nothing is best, but where would
we be if all the Forum members felt that way.
JVK
Thanks for your help as always
James. I am very sorry I forgot to mention your product, Scent of Eros (women's version) as one of the products
with a respectable copulins representation. Actually, I think SOE for women was the first scented product with a
serious Eau de Cooter note. You can smell the copulins, but yet it works. We rarely get complaints about
it.
B
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
any feedback yet?? I probably won't
end up buying this product in the near future. Especially since I just bought the Lucky 7 set and Liquid Trust.
Right now everything is going great for me. So I'm not about to make any changes yet.
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