interesting post, now all we
need is a tesosterone meter, so we can walk around and see who raises our test the most
I found this on
luvessentials, I wanted to get sum oppinions on it
JUST FOR MEN: Discover the Exact Time
of the Month a Woman Reaches Her Highest Sexual Temperature – or When She's Likely to be Intimate with
You
en often wonder why they always
seem to be sexually ready while women need to be romanced, wined, dined, and foreplayed before they get in the mood.
Part of the reason, of course, is that women are psychologically hardwired differently from men – and
generally speaking, it does take some time to get a woman to the same level of readiness that men normally
are.
However, there are a few days each month when a woman is *always* biologically able and willing. During
those few days, it has been scientifically proven that women are more driven to actively look for a sexual partner.
Interestingly enough, during those few days, even a woman who's in a committed relationship – a relationship
in which she is sexually active – is most likely to seek a different sexual partner.
Do you know when those
few days occur? It's when a woman is ovulating.
Ovulation is the portion of a woman's monthly menstrual cycle
wherein she's most fertile. It occurs on or about the fifteenth day of a woman's 28-day cycle. It's not only a
woman's prime time to conceive, but also a time when her libido is unusually high. This coincides with the "in
heat" phenomenon in the animal kingdom. The time when the female is reproductively able and willing.
What this
means to you, if you're a man looking for a woman, is that your chances of having a relatively effortless sexual
encounter with a woman is when a woman is ovulating. Unfortunately, that knowledge won't help you much when you
meet a woman for the first time. For instance, you can't simply walk into a singles bar and visually spot women who
are ovulating, can you? If life could only be that simple!
The good news is this: A man's vomeronasal organ
(VNO) in his nasal cavity is able to pick up on the scent of ovulating women. How? Women produce female pheromones
called copulins, which are volatile fatty acids that they produce in their vaginal secretions. Copulin secretions
vary dramatically during various phases of a woman's menstrual cycle. Astrid Jütte, a Vienna University biologist,
was able to prove that males are not only able to smell maximum fertility in women, but their testosterone
levels increased to nearly 150% when they smelled the ovulatory women.
-Rub her feet?
interesting post, now all we
need is a tesosterone meter, so we can walk around and see who raises our test the most
Hi hzg0st
Interesting, I
keep notes of when women (that I´m interested in) have there period for various reasons...
Do you count 15 days
from the start, the middle or the end of her menstruation... if you want to find out the time of her peak ovulation?
What I have heard from woman, is that their lust peaks around their menstruation. Some before, some after and some
in the middle of it, which of course is not the time that the woman has her peak ovulation.
"He who makes a beast of himself
gets rid of the pain of being a man"
DR. JOHNSON
Greetings SirAngel
sex is about reproduction ,
even some lesbians are attracted to men when ovulation is close.usually they have minor acne breakouts around this
time. i think heavy nones smell good to women around this time and pregnant women are repulsed by none, there
already pregnant heavy nones only attract a small audience but these few who go wild usually go the whole nine
yards.imagine heavy noning a gal before ovulation or noning a couple of chicks housing together with menstrual
cycles together with copulins on [ pound it man]
Hmm, I've had similar experience
as Sir Angel: many women are the biggest horndogs near or during their period. Personally I don't care for sex
during menstruation, but many women want it more than ever and can be extremely demanding of male wood. It's like
an itch that won't go away...
Hmm, with humans sex is more about pleasure and power. Most folks go to great
lengths to avoid reproduction.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
How about an ovulation meter that measures the copulins in the air?Originally Posted by lordcrazyd
I think I ran into one of thows on a website.Originally Posted by OCP
I wonder why
luvessentials would supply an artical like that whithout developing some creation to go whith it?
-Rub her feet?
thats already well known
information but thanks for posting it again.
I thought about that...I get most
of my infomation frum google and could find nuthing specificly about that. Are there any websites you can recomend
that deal whith this?
-Rub her feet?
Well it would make sense that
women should be most horny when they are most receptive... but my experience tought me the same as Have Courage. (
But then again..do women have to make sense? These beautiful and wonderful strange creatures)
"He who makes a beast of himself
gets rid of the pain of being a man"
DR. JOHNSON
Greetings SirAngel
when they really want it they will
go to interesting lengths to get it - when their drives tell them they can but they dont need to ie 3 weeks in a
month they can do it but they arent normally as up front about it.
I am curious, does all this still
apply when women are on the pill? does the pill effect the "horny" times?
The hormonal"I am curious, does all
this still apply when women are on the pill? does the pill effect the "horny" times?"
disruption caused by the pill throws all that out the window. For some reason I find natural women more sexy than
pill users. I don't even like how pill users smell down there.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
The human VNO (vomeronasalOriginally Posted by Bkflip
pits) is not required--just as the VNO of other mammals is not required for pheromones to have an effect on hormones
and behavior. Astrid used a copulin formula (also used in SoE/w), --not ovulatory women-- in her study. Bottom line,
poorly written articles like the one mentioned are misrepresentations of facts, and rather
useless.
Thanks, WatcherOriginally Posted by Watcher
Many recent posts simply rehash information discussed at length over the past
several years. I respond less frequently because my book (updated edition in 2002) discusses nearly everything in
Forum posts--except for personal experiences, which add perspective. I'm always happy to see new Forum members post
information, but often see them post misinformation. It might be a good idea for some to attempt to somehow validate
the information coming from other domains before posting it to the Forum. This would help ensure the validity of the
Forum--which is currently the only pheromone discussion group that has any validation so far as I'm
concerned.
JVK
Gegogi is exactlyOriginally Posted by Scmoo
right. I'll give you a little more detailed description.
Primary sex hormones are regulated by an "axis"
that consists of three organs: the hypothalamus (a part of the brain), the pituitary gland, and the gonads. The
hypothalamus is nervous tissue, and has specialized neurons that deliver a neurotransmitter/hormone-like compound
called "gonadotropin releasing hormone", or GnRH. GnRH causes the pituitary to produce "luteinizing hormone" (LH)
and "follicle stimulating hormone" (FSH). In women, FSH stimulates the production of progesterone and stimulates the
follicles to develop and prepare for ovulation. In men, FSH causes the Sertoli cells in the testes to produce sperm.
(Testosterone also has this effect.) In women, LH causes estrogen production and ovulation (among other things). In
men, LH stimulates the Leydig cells in the testes to produce androgens (e.g., testosterone (which in turn stimulates
the Sertoli cells to produce sperm... complicated?)). For men (or, actually, for all individuals who were exposed to
high androgen levels in the womb, as is normal for men and abnormal for women), GnRH, FSH and LH production may vary
on a day-to-day or hour-to-hour basis, but they don't follow a monthly cycle. For women (or those not exposed to
androgens in the womb), the hypothalamus follows a very detailed monthly pattern of GnRH release, which peaks
shortly before ovulation.
For more detail about what I've mentioned so far, go to
http://distance.stcc.edu/AandP/AP/AP2pages/repro
d/female.htm and
http://www.fertilityworld.org/content/doc_
630/en/version_1/doc.asp for the female and male systems, respectively. The first article has a really nice
graphic, so I recommend that you take a look at that. You'll notice that women also experience an estrogen peak
right before/during the start of menstruation. That's why they get so horny then, too. Also, you'll notice that
progesterone is pretty low then; AFAIR, progesterone tends to reduce the libido (right?).
Now, here's
where things get really interesting: the primary sex hormones (testosterone, estrogens, and progesterone) all have
negative feedback effects on both the release of GnRH in the hypothalamus and FSH/LH in the pituitary. (Well, except
sometimes (esp. in women) where they can increase GnRH production... but you don't need to know that.) In other
(simple) words, the more estrogen/test/progesterone you have, the less you produce. That's why taking prohormones
and anabolic/androgenic steroids makes your balls shrink. That's also why birth control pills work. See, birth
control pills are basically just pills with a bit of progesterone (and sometimes estrogen, depending on the
manufacturer) in them. When a girl takes them, it causes her hypothalamus to dramatically reduce GnRH production.
Ultimately, though, average overall (estrogen and) progesterone levels aren't diminished--in fact, they're usually
higher in pill users than non-pill users. However, what's important is that they're not nearly as strongly
influenced by the hypothalamus and GnRH, so they're more constant. In short, this means that there's no
estrogen/LH spike immediately before ovulation, and therefore no ovulation. That also means that there's no
horniness, no peak in body temperature, no change in vaginal secretions, and so forth. There would also be no
menstruation if BC pills didn't have a special one-week-per-month set of pills which didn't contain any
progesterone. Some companies/researchers have actually experimented with skipping this phase, giving women several
months of PMS- and tampon-free living.
It should be mentioned that BC pills do a lot more than just inhibit
ovulation. I think that the reduction of hypothalamic GnRH activity leads to a reduction of the innervation of the
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. The adrenals are where almost all testosterone is produced in females, so a
reduction of that axis would lead to lower testosterone. I think, actually, that all of the aforementioned effects
regarding libido are, ultimately, because of interactions affecting adrenal innervation and testosterone levels.
Also, because BC pills tend to increase progesterone and estrogen levels and decrease testosterone, they tend to
cause improvements in skin tone, reductions in hair oiliness, gains in fat weight, enlargement of the breasts (I bet
you guys are all going to fixate about that one) and hips, increases in water weight, and a bunch of other similar
effects.
But that's just the beginning. BC pills have also been shown to halve the rate at
which women break down caffeine (women usually break down caffeine 25% percent faster than men; nicotine will
approximately double that rate in both men and women). Also, in studies of the attractiveness of people's body oder
and its correlation with MHC similarity
([url="http://ndt.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/15/9/1269"]http://ndt.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/15/9/1269[
/url]), both men and non-BC-using women rate individuals with dissimilar MHC as being more attractive/smelling
nicer. However, BC-using women reported the exact opposite: odors of people with similar MHCs smelled the best to
them. (For you female readers: do not shop for a husband while on birth control. If you do, you'll probably
find that when you go off BC, you won't be attracted to him anymore. That would suck.) This (also) means that
BC-using women are more likely to enter into relationships where the amount to which each partner is attracted to
the other is imbalanced.
Anyway.
JVK: Yeah, that's what I remember, too. I remember the
150% testosterone increase study as being related to (synthetic?) copulins in general, whereas the
smelling-the-time-of-the-month study was actual vaginal secretions.
Watcher: I remember reading
on the women's forum that most women (at least, sexyredhead and Elana) absolutely can't stand 'none when they're
menstruating. Also, I think (but I'm less sure about this) that 'none is especially attractive during ovulation.
This is probably related to your observations regarding BC users. I'm not going to speculate right now, though: if
I made this post any longer it would probably impale someone.
yes the None to Obvoluation and
periods is one discussed widley - i was more referring to Arone and Anol in terms of more is needed on a personal
level to get a more forthright and effected response than those that i assume aint.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks