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    Default tongkat ali - increased pheromone production?

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    Interesting powerpoint presentation on the testing of a rainforest herb, tongkat ali:



    http://www.testingtongkatali.com/testosterone.ppt



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    according to clinical

    research tongkat ali is supposed to make castrated rats sexually active to the point of actually harming themselves

    to obtain a female partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIONIC MAN
    according to

    clinical research tongkat ali is supposed to make castrated rats sexually active to the point of actually harming

    themselves to obtain a female partner.
    Interesting. How did they harm themselves?

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    I have taken tongkat ali

    for a couple of weeks now. It works! For libido anyway. Check out

    www.yohimbe.org it really is a good read. Scroll down the page and on the left

    side there is some good info on tongkat ali.

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    It worked for me the first

    day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi wood all the time.

    The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about an hour to an hour

    and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is the quality of the

    ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are taking the right

    amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgerama1960
    It worked for

    me the first day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi wood

    all the time. The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about an

    hour to an hour and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is the

    quality of the ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are

    taking the right amount.
    Where are you getting yours?

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    Are there any related

    side-effects, or issues, with using tongkat ali? Is there a tolerance buildup, etc?

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    Its supposed to enhance one's

    health in general (in addition to its libido boosting properties) and i don't think there are any side effects

    associated with the consumption of such a drink with the exception of it being heaty. True to Have_Courage's

    ordeal, it really does taste unpleasant.

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    Medline has a couple

    papers.
    Two pushing the

    stuff:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...<br /> <br />
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...<br /> <br />
    And one mentioning toxic contaminants in some

    samples:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q.../> <br /> 85

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgerama1960
    It worked

    for me the first day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi

    wood all the time. The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about

    an hour to an hour and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is

    the quality of the ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are

    taking the right amount.
    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    Where are you getting yours?

    -Bass
    Helloooooooo,

    Burger ???????????

    I'd like to play. Is Burger the only test rat using this product?
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    interesting stuff...
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    interesting

    stuff...
    Doc, you're using? Is that a VOODOO WOODY interesting stuff, or a DST intellectual

    reading interesting stuff?

    Annnd, as Bass asked Burger, if you're using, where are you getting

    your fix?

    Always a pleasure ... thanks!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Never tried it, unless maybe

    in combo with other stuff in other supplements. But sounds promising.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Gents,

    There was a thread about

    this about a year and a half back in the Health Forum.
    It was posted by one of this forum's leading aficionados

    in the field of Aphrodisia.

    Whitehall's

    Longjack Thread


    Oscar

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar
    Gents,

    There

    was a thread about this about a year and a half back in the Health Forum.
    It was posted by one of this forum's

    leading aficionados in the field of Aphrodisia.



    Whitehall's Longjack Thread



    Oscar
    Thanks, Oscar!

    Sounds like two different products, reading Whitehall's

    findings, and then Burger's.

    Hope that's not the reason Whitehall has not been around.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Thanks, Oscar. Maybe I'll

    snoop around a bit.
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    I started today with 2 capsules

    of LJ100 in the morning. Dr. Ray Sahelian says that one of the side effects is insomnia so I'll only take it in the

    morning.

    There are also supposedly antihistamine side effects. That would be a positive unintended

    consequence for me.

    Also, some of the websites claim tongkat ali, aka longjack, aka Eurycoma longifolia raise

    pheromone levels. The refer to the pheromones an-a and an-b, (an-alpha and an-beta). Anyone know what these are?



    Here's the pheromone reference:
    http://www.herbal-powers.com/bodbuilfitre.html
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    I'd still like to know where

    Burgerama got his product since it worked for him, which takes away the YOU GOT GYPT factor.

    Where you

    get yours, Nonscents? Please keep the 40+ group informed on your findings.

    Thanks!
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    Mobes,

    I got mine here:


    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/herbalpowers/lj10expow.html

    Another site of interest is:


    http://www.tongkatali.org/index.htm
    but they require larger purchases and I didn't want to risk it

    until I tried it out first.

    They are in Aceh province in Indonesia, site of long-running rebellion and recent

    tsunami.
    The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonscents
    Mobes,

    I

    got mine

    here:
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/herbalpowers/lj10e

    xpow.html


    Another site of interest

    is:
    http://www.tongkatali.org/index.htm
    but they require larger

    purchases and I didn't want to risk it until I tried it out first.

    They are in Aceh province in Indonesia, site

    of long-running rebellion and recent tsunami.
    Thanks, Noscents! Did you feel anything after your first

    dose?
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    Default LJ100 Side effects

    Yesterday I

    took two capsules.

    I had had sex in the morning before I took the capsules and didn't have sex after I took

    them.

    When I went to bed last night I had noticed no effects that day.

    But my sleep last night was very

    poor. I was up a good part of the night and during the other times my sleep was very shallow. I got out of bed early

    this morning and I do not feel rested at all.

    I am sure the insomnia is a side effect of the LJ100. Dr. Ray

    Sahelian mentions this on the site where he sells the stuff.

    I also had an upset stomach this morning. I can't

    say with any certainty whether this is an LJ100 effect or not.

    My interim conclusion is that LJ100 is not for

    me.

    In a couple of weeks I will try to take 1 capsule in the morning instead of the 2 capsules I took

    yesterday.

    If I am not getting enough rest I am not going to be improving my weight lifting and I am not going

    to be having better sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    Interesting.

    How did they harm themselves?

    -Bass
    a clinical test was performed with two cages with a tunnel

    between them. an electrified tunnel then a female rat in heat was placed in one and a castrated male rat in another.

    but this rat was fed tongkat ali, well he bared the electrical shocks to reach his partner. check out muscle jack by

    body building supplements the first natural prohormone product. if your adding all the test boosters out there

    your horny mone signal should be very loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonscents
    Yesterday I

    took two capsules.

    I had had sex in the morning before I took the capsules and didn't have sex after I took

    them.

    When I went to bed last night I had noticed no effects that day.

    But my sleep last night was very

    poor. I was up a good part of the night and during the other times my sleep was very shallow. I got out of bed early

    this morning and I do not feel rested at all.

    I am sure the insomnia is a side effect of the LJ100. Dr. Ray

    Sahelian mentions this on the site where he sells the stuff.

    I also had an upset stomach this morning. I can't

    say with any certainty whether this is an LJ100 effect or not.

    My interim conclusion is that LJ100 is not for

    me.

    In a couple of weeks I will try to take 1 capsule in the morning instead of the 2 capsules I took yesterday.



    If I am not getting enough rest I am not going to be improving my weight lifting and I am not going to be

    having better sex.
    What's your body measurements, NonScents ... weight and height?

    Would anyone

    know if that would make a difference ... a larger man needing more, and a smaller man needing less?



    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    What's your

    body measurements, NonScents ... weight and height?

    Would anyone know if that would make a difference

    ... a larger man needing more, and a smaller man needing less?

    Thanks!
    ANYBODY over 200 pds

    could double dose safely

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    What's your

    body measurements, NonScents ... weight and height?

    Would anyone know if that would make a difference

    ... a larger man needing more, and a smaller man needing less?

    Thanks!
    I am 5'10" tall

    and weigh 171 lbs. I have very little body fat.

    By the way, the producers of LJ100 emailed me and told me to

    return the product and they would refund it. I've returned my bottle and I am waiting for the refund.
    The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonscents
    I am 5'10"

    tall and weigh 171 lbs. I have very little body fat.

    By the way, the producers of LJ100 emailed me and told me

    to return the product and they would refund it. I've returned my bottle and I am waiting for the refund.

    Here in South East Asia region...Tongkat Ali is plentiful and taken without any side effect, we have energy drinks

    to coffee with Tongkat Ali. I personally like to take the tradisionally prepared versions that are prepared in

    villages here. It is made of 100% original roots without and perservatives.

    What it does is improves blood

    circulation and hence this will also help in the power in the reproductive organs.. My experience with it is that it

    help me with my back pain that I was having before. It was not a overnight improvement by after taking for a month

    or so. My dosage is 2 capsules before bed.

    I have stop taken it as I have problem getting tradisional prepared

    ones here in the big city. Everytime someone goes to the Langkawi Island..I'm sure to order a few bottles from

    them. I'm sorry to here that some people overseas have a side effects but this might be due to the diet/food

    between the regions.

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    Try taking Tongkat Ali minus

    the alcohol... and this stuff is not to be taken before bed (except when you need them as bosters to an immanent

    sexual endower) otherwise this stuff is designed to put you on an 'alert' mode all day.

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    I once took a yohimbe product (it

    had some other stuff in it) to see if me and this woman I'm seeing could go "all night" (we usually only go for 5

    hours or so until I run out of steam or she runs out of juices, sorry to be vulgar) but all it did was make me

    flushed and sweaty, and the sweat had a strange, pervasive odour which wasn't particularly disgusting, but

    certainly not pleasant. I would recommend that everyone stay away from anything containing Yohimbe. There are

    heart-health risks to taking it as well.

    Now, Tongkat Ali, I want to try some of this stuff. What's the

    best place to get a 50:1 mix?

    Slinger

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    heres my bionic horny mix,

    tongkat ali,l-arginine,zma,maca,dhea,tribbulus terrestis,yohimbe,and copulins under snout horny goat weed

    my test is like when i was 18

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    You may try this site Slinger:

    http://www.internationalsupplements.com/Products/tribulusterrestris.html

    for the international version or you may also try the Indonesian

    version at:
    http://www.tongkatali.org/

    However, the Malaysian Tongkat Ali are certified as genuine and pure by the Malaysian Government:

    http://www.tenagalelakihebat.com/buy.htm and remember, no alcohol what so ever.

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