i was thinking the same thing. as
i make my process from beta to alpha i was wondering if my mone signature was changing.
Can it
be done over time? I as because in Middle School and High School, I definitely was "the nice guy." Got reactions
similar (but not as intense) as a heavy SOE day, and always was in LJBF land. Continued on into college. Now that
I've altered my phsique and even approach to things, is it possible that I naturally have a more `none heavy
signature than before? I can understand phermone production going down as one ages and hormone levels decrease, but
is this increase possible?
I guess the short is, can changing behavior patterns to make oneself more alpha,
change smeone's phermone profile (over a LONG timespan)?
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way. "
~Becca
i was thinking the same thing. as
i make my process from beta to alpha i was wondering if my mone signature was changing.
Certainly. The brain and body
reform themselves to choices one makes. Some is genetically determined, but not all.
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DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
so, basically as with NLP / self
talk / affirmations it is possible to change your personality, it is also able to change your personal pheromone
signature?
ANY forum members with deeper knowledge about NLP?
I figure that since your
testosterone levels increase and decrease depending on when you've last ejaculated or worked out, that your
pheromones would be the same way. A buddy of mine went from being a little wiener kid to a giant muscular body
building firefighter. Now I'm going to assume that his pheromone signature is more alpha now, but that's just a
guess.
Oh yes the NLP - it can help with
phobia removal - knowledge and speeding up learning retnetion and memory and yes it can be helpful in emotional
situtations and yes i have used NLP to change my mindset from fat whimp at 18 to mid 20s and balanced, dont take
shit etc.
The brain (i.e.Originally Posted by phinmone
Psychology) is a wonderful and mysterious thing. People with Multiple Personality Disorder can do anything from
have different levels of vision impairment (20/20 vs. someone who needs thick glasses) to different voices to
different IQs. The body and the mind are not set in stone. If you start lifting weights, your signature is going
to be different...stronger and more prominent.
The following things could change your pheromone signature or
levels of that signature:
1. Diet
2. Exercise
3. Personality
4. Belief System
5. Mood
6. Sexual Arousal
Level
7. Age
I'm sure there are more, but I'm a little short on time. The thing is that all of the above
factors affect the chemical balance of your body. Testosterone levels fluctuate, what your body uses to produce the
chemicals changes, etc.
For the NLP example, your state of mind, belief system, and body positioning have a
tremendous influence on your body's chemical makeup. I'll give you an example:
You're sitting at a computer,
correct? Slouch your shoulders, put your head down, and have bad posture. How do you feel now? You're probably a
little tired compared to how you were before (or the same if that's how you were sitting a moment ago). Now, get
into a position of good posture, pull your shoulders back, take a deep breath, and keep your head up. How do you
feel now? You probably feel a little more alert. How does your body react to this chemically? Well, you're more
likely to be producing good -mones while alert, confident, and positive than when you are slouched, tired, and
negative. In addition, you just improved your attractiveness to women by doing so. Who wants to be around the guy
who's down?
Think negative thoughts and completely tear yourself down. How does your body react? It shuts
down. It puts you in a slow, depressed, unhealthy state of mind. Your body is no longer producing -mones to
attract the women you want because that's no longer your focus. You're feeling bad and your belief system put you
in a bad state of mind, which then made your body shut down healthy -mone production. In fact, your body
positioning might've changed during this process as well.
Think positive thoughts and bring yourself into a
positive mood. How does your body react? Well, you probably have better posture or at least are in a different
position than you were when you were negative. You're probably feeling better. You're now promoting healthy
bodily function, and your body is in the best state now to produce -mones and attract women because everything is in
peak condition.
Hopefully the above examples gave you a sense of how different factors change your -mone
levels and -mone production. I am sure you have a gist of how the other factors work as well (e.g. eating healthy
would give your body the tools it needs to produce the best -mones).
As my own testimonial to the above
information, I can say that I am very successful at 1 and 2 (working hard at 3 and 4, which would influence 5 and
6...7 is permanent, (un)fortunately), and I am surprised at how pleasant my sweat smells. Although over time all
sweat gets kind of funky, I notice that my fresh sweat around the main -mone-producing areas is pretty nice.
i don't know muchOriginally Posted by phinmone
about nlp but all it really took for me was affirmations, self talk, and visualization. i picked all that up from
ross jefferies' unstoppable confidence tapes. but i also think you need to have a strong desire to be alpha for it
to work or else you'll be left wondering why it doesn't work. just like the guy that goes to the gym twice a week
and goes to mcdonalds afterwards and wonders why his body doesn't look like usher's.
pancho you have a good handle on
NLP
Trock do a google search not so much on ross jeffries but the mainstream NLP it can be more helpful and
more broadbased instead of just the element of pick up tips - suggest you do some heavy reading.
Its worth
the effort.
Replacing "inert" body fat with
metabolically active muscle mass may have some influence.
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
Lol thanks mtnjim yes that inert
body fat was an issue - now its metabolically activce muscle mass that gets put to good use and a ongoing extreme
workout to keep it that way.
Tall. dark, and handsome is a
visual description of an olfactory profile, and all three visual descriptors indicate a lifelong association with
testosterone levels. Testosterone promotes the growth of the bones that make males taller than females; promotes the
darker skin tone-via increased production of red blood cells; and promotes the development of symmetrical features
which are judged to be most masculine/attractive by females. Females also prefer the scent of symmetrical men. How
do such preferences (e.g., for a tall, dark, and handsome man) develop? They are conditioned through associations
with the natural body odor of others who are found to be most interesting/arousing/rewarding. That's why by
wearing pheromone products that enhance your masculine (i.e., testosterone based) scent signature, you can appear to
be a more desireable male--even though your appeal is based on unconscious associations. I've detailed this in my
book. Also the link between exercise, muscle development and increased masculine pheromone production is a
given--since this link is also testosterone related. Waist to hip ratio is what's generally referred to as the
"figure" men and women find most desireable. Men prefer 0.7 in women, women prefer approx 1.0 in men (though one
report did indicate that a little higher WHR was still acceptable in men). And, did you ever wonder why tanning
became popular as a "healthy" look? Darker skin tone and the testosterone connection make sense--even for women, who
could be expected to have increased sex drive with darker skin tone.
JVK
That's very interesting
Hello james kohl thanks for the
post there havent read you for a while.
On a side note have you seen the australian company "epitan" which
has had very successful results with inplantable meitonian slow realise pellets into the abodmen that over 12 months
has sent its test subjects from white to very brown. Basically it will do away with tanning salons and even lying
on the beach as the increase melatonin levels (africans have much higher levels hence the black skin) but the slow
realise from the pellet similar to naltrexone implants for rapid treatment of herion addicts.
It simply
naturally raises youre melatonin and therefore you get a natural tan.
Very exciting technology (im a small
shareholder and thought it might be a useful additoin slightly off topic to the discussion) how about a slow realise
androgen to raise natural testorone levels or perhaps for older men testostrone slow realise to help combat hte
aging process. ?
Wow very interesting. Did you mean
melanin and not melatonin? I take melatonin to help me sleep. It's a naturally produced hormone for sleep.
Melanin is dark pigments.
Yeah, they supposedly have a "Barbie Pill" coming out soon, too...it's supposedly aOriginally Posted by Watcher
weight-loss/tanning/---what was the third thing...I can't remember...I think I wrote about this on the forum
before---pill that'll probably be the most popular vanity product ever invented...
Say what Panchito? I'm prettyOriginally Posted by Pancho1188
dissapointed in you.. You have one of the best memories ever!
BTW What ya' doing at work on a Sunday afternoon my
darling?
hugs
SB
A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you can not do."
Originally Posted by jvkohl
Hmm...interesting thought. Whereas I had always thought that a preference for skin color is mostly culturally
based, depending on what your particular culture thought was desirable in terms of activity. For example, east
asian countries very strongly believe that whiter skin is the most beautiful. Now, I know for a fact that this
comes from a socio-economic preference: if you were paler, it meant that you didn't need to work out in the fields
and so forth. Paleness was a sign of social stature, and thus beauty. It was most prevelant in the imperial age,
but this line of thought has only been strengthened through generations since the cultural ideals haven't changed.
Your average run-of-the-mill facial in China in a cheap salon, for example, will include a skin-bleaching session.
Whereas, in the U.S., a tanned look is prefered because it is healthy, it means that this person goes out often
and is active. Sexual activity and freedom might be a factor as well, but I think the cultural view of the ideal
lifestyle is the determining factor when it comes to most desirable skin color.
~Silver
Epitan is doing some really
interesting stuff. Sometime either late this year or early next they were planning on starting trials in the US. If
you want to know more about it, go here:
http://www.epitan.com.au/IRM/content/default.htm
You can sign up to be part of the tests too.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Hey Bel,Originally Posted by belgareth
Thanks for the link I'm going to go check it out.
A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you can not do."
The primary goal is to provide
a product for high sun damage/skin cancer risk people to help protect them from sun damage. Since it is an implant
it will be something your doctor will have to prescribe and place.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I think the third one was a contraceptive, but IOriginally Posted by SweetBrenda
can't 100% recall...maybe it was just skin-revitalization or something...grrr...I searched the forum and didn't
find a post from me mentioning it...
Lionesses prefer males with darker manes; a sign of higher testosterone.Originally Posted by Silver
One might argue that this is a cultural thing with the lionesses, but the argument wouldn't get too far with a
biologist. There are far too many examples from the animal kingdom that link testosterone and visual (and even
auditory-in bird song) preferences. I'm not saying that culture plays no role, it's just that in all animals
biology (not culture) is the driving force. So, how would culture come to dominate human sexual preferences?
Besides, tanning is a self-destructive behavior when it comes to visual appeal in later years. Most humans are smart
enough to realize this, but continue to operate on a simple minded risk/reward ratio that promotes attraction now,
while risking the future as a prune.
JVK
i go tanning, i have darker skin
to begin with. from what i understand if you're blond hair blue eyed, you're more likely to be screwed over than
naturally dark skinned people.
Men are moreOriginally Posted by TRock
likely to prefer blond/blue eyed women because along with the genetics of hair/eye color come a scent association
that is more characteristically female. But it's not just about hair/eye color; it's also about hair length--since
long hair traps more scent. How many men prefer women with short hair to women with long hair? Even a raven haired
Asian can rely on the link to a naturally more feminine scent to attract men, since Asians produce less natural body
odor. Why were men with long hair considered effiminate (by other men) when first the hippies started letting it all
hang out. Again, people think about the visual connection, while forgetting that the odor associations rule in all
other mammals--and nearly all species, in general.
JVK
Then how do you explain the marked preference forOriginally Posted by jvkohl
paler skinned individuals in Asian countries? Or monarchial europe? The queenly paleness that characterized the
upper class was by far the preferred skin tone of England in the past, for example.
Consider the change in
American sexual preference alone throughout the course of history. Decades ago, the ideal woman was the size 8
marilyn monroe. And while not everyone has an affinity for the stick-thin models that prance around the nearest
television screen, our collective ideal has changed quite a lot. Perhaps it's not a size 0, but a size 4 at least,
and most would consider a size 8 to be a bit approaching pudgy. How can this change be anything but cultural?
I
think its safe to say that, while humans do rely a lot on biological imperative when it comes to sexual preference,
we are much more affected than other animals by culture. The degree is arguable...perhaps culture does not dominate
biology, but it is at least just as important.
~Silver
i meant the whole tanning is bad for youOriginally Posted by jvkohl
thing.
So are piercings.Originally Posted by TRock
I don't think he's arguing against culture shaping what we find attractive. He's moreOriginally Posted by Silver
so touching upon what humans find attractive at our biological "default settings."
Blond hairOriginally Posted by jvkohl
does contrast against the skin differently than dark hair, showing ones skin flaws more easily (dark spots against
light background) and enabling one to notice clear skin more easily (no distracting dark background). Clear skin
signals youth and health which is generally a sign of reproductiveness in females.
Look at a blond and a
brunette, and it seems as if the blond's skin stands out more.
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