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    Default Help... Primal Instinct & APC

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    hello,

    a few months back i purchased Primal instinct after noticing zero luck with the Androstenone Concentrate /Men... and

    i noticed zero luck with the Primal Instinct also.. i was wondering what i could be doing wrong and how to fix it??

    i am going to order some samples from love scent but any recomendations for a total noob would be much

    appreciated...

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    You should have returned it to

    where you got it if it didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamecity
    You should have

    returned it to where you got it if it didn't work.

    i didnt care about that. and that had nothing to

    do with anything... your answer that is, amkes no sense, as i asked for some help assuming that i might be doing

    somthing wrong... whats the best place to apply the stuff, and how much...

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    You have to experiment.

    Everyone does it differently. Some people apply products directly. They dab it, smudge it, take a drop or spray it.

    However most people have their own mix which works for them pretty well. They achieve this by experimenting also but

    you can try some of the popular product mixes at the library.

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    I'm messing with the same two

    products right now, and while I have yet to see anything extraordinarily great, the effects are largely positive. I

    managed to OD on PI+APC at a club last night, when 3 drops of of APC came out instead of one, so it is a mix you

    have to be a bit careful with. Experimentation is the key to success though...I'm going on my second week of

    testing with different PI mixes, and I still feel like I've got a ways to go before I find my sweet spot with PI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HW 3x
    hello, a few months

    back i purchased Primal instinct after noticing zero luck with the Androstenone Concentrate /Men... and i noticed

    zero luck with the Primal Instinct also.. i was wondering what i could be doing wrong and how to fix it?? i am going

    to order some samples from love scent but any recomendations for a total noob would be much

    appreciated...
    APC is a -none product with a very low -none concentration and PI is one with a

    very high one. For PI a good place to start around is two drops max. For APC 4 drops at the very least and work

    your way up (I think 10 drops of APC is equal to 1 drop of PI). Ideal application spots are behind the ears, sides

    of neck, under each wrist, arms, and chest.

    Happy experimenting!

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    I can wear plenty 'o 'none with

    little or no ill-effects. Makes women befuddled and horny. However, many guys have negative reactions due to their

    body chemistry and/or persona. The safest and most universally effective product is something full of 'nol, e.g.,

    SOE. You may need to use a low app of 'none coupled with SOE for best effect. Perhaps you're better off with only

    SOE. You have to experiement with different dosages and combos to know for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HW 3x
    hello, a few

    months back i purchased Primal instinct after noticing zero luck with the Androstenone Concentrate /Men... and i

    noticed zero luck with the Primal Instinct also.. i was wondering what i could be doing wrong and how to fix it?? i

    am going to order some samples from love scent but any recomendations for a total noob would be much

    appreciated...
    Start at the begining. If you've been reading the forum you know we need to know

    something about you to offer any help at all. Age, size, condition, appearance, grooming, social environment and

    personality would be a good place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingerMD
    I think

    10 drops of APC is equal to 1 drop of PI.

    -SwingerMD


    That's interesting, Signor S! Never even thought about that one!

    Has any of you math experts ever

    thought about and/or figured that one out?

    Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    Start at the

    begining. If you've been reading the forum you know we need to know something about you to offer any help at all.

    Age, size, condition, appearance, grooming, social environment and personality would be a good place to

    start.

    well, i havent read that far but here it is... .im 20 ( soon to be 21 in a few months) about

    6'1-6'2 , around 130lbs... On a scale of 1-10 (10 best), Im overall an 8/12-9 no issues there... , overall prep,

    designer clothing and what not.. Clean cut, socially know quite a bit of girls... my only issue is actually

    approaching girls that i find interesting, even if theyre super hot and im not interested i have no problems, just

    if im interested is my issues, some sort of an ice breaker maybe... overall im super laid back i love to have fun

    but then again im mature and not a reckloose.. .. hope thats better.. attracting girls around my age 19-23

    or even upto 26

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    If you have problems

    approaching a girl then go get a wingman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamecity
    If you have

    problems approaching a girl then go get a wingman.
    dude, you hit the nail rite on the head man... i have

    no problems approaching some hotty but, if i find her interesting in like a certain way yeah then its hard to

    approach her. but i think your rite man... il just get some help from my buds.... game, you tha man..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HW 3x
    hello, a few months

    back i purchased Primal instinct after noticing zero luck with the Androstenone Concentrate /Men... and i noticed

    zero luck with the Primal Instinct also.. i was wondering what i could be doing wrong and how to fix it?? i am going

    to order some samples from love scent but any recomendations for a total noob would be much

    appreciated...
    HW 3x,

    You might also want to mention how much of those products you were

    applying.

    Even without knowing that, I'll take a shot in the dark and figure you were probably using too little

    APC and too much PI.
    A guy your age could use around 8-10 drops of APC, but should only use a drop or even less of

    PI.

    Oscar

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar
    HW 3x,

    You might

    also want to mention how much of those products you were applying.

    Even without knowing that, I'll take a shot

    in the dark and figure you were probably using too little APC and too much PI.
    A guy your age could use around

    8-10 drops of APC, but should only use a drop or even less of PI.

    Oscar
    APC doesnt have a dropper

    on mine, just an open like bottle (would pour all out lol) but i tried 2 dabs of PI, havent used apc in a long time

    ima try it again..

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    HW 3x,

    I usually buy

    dropper bottles from a local Essential Oils store. For now, I would recommend to start with at least six daps of

    APC. As for PI it's really easy to OD so two drops is a good place to start, but you may have to wait about 1 hour

    after application.

    -SwingerMD
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    il stick with APC for now, see how

    that goes..

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    http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showth...highlight=true
    NONE based products may not be the

    answer. I have seen studies that show it helps and studies that show it repels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingerMD
    HW 3x,

    I

    usually buy dropper bottles from a local Essential Oils store. For now, I would recommend to start with at least six

    daps of APC. As for PI it's really easy to OD so two drops is a good place to start, but you may have to wait about

    1 hour after application.

    -SwingerMD
    After taking your advice i did about the APC... i did 3 dabs,

    on neck behind ear(back neck area) a tiny bit.. i noticed, maybe it was just me, but i felt Super confident, i

    usually am, but definately a little bit more outgoing than usual... talking and getting different reactions from

    others... i just might believe pheros might influence some things a little bit, il have to test more tho.. but so

    far im impressed..

    ive read some good things with SOE , so il try the sample of it and see how it works, if its

    good im going to buy a few bottles of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HW 3x
    After taking your

    advice i did about the APC... i did 3 dabs, on neck behind ear(back neck area) a tiny bit.. i noticed, maybe it was

    just me, but i felt Super confident, i usually am, but definately a little bit more outgoing than usual... talking

    and getting different reactions from others... i just might believe pheros might influence some things a little bit,

    il have to test more tho.. but so far im impressed..

    ive read some good things with SOE , so il try the

    sample of it and see how it works, if its good im going to buy a few bottles of it..
    I usually notice

    interesting rxn from asians at about 6 dabs. SOE is great stuff. About 12" total rolled onto arms, chest, neck and

    behind ears should be a good start off point. Anyhow pheros do affect you too. Put too much of that -none on and

    you'd feel like there was a 900 lb. gorilla on your back and breathing down your neck. I'm usually really super

    friendly when I have SOE on.

    -SwingerMD
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxveritas
    http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showth...highlight=true
    NONE based

    products may not be the answer. I have seen studies that show it helps and studies that show it

    repels.
    Personally I believe it all boils down how you use them. I've gotten both extremely

    positive and extremely negative hits with -none. SOE and -nol based products are very good, but it doesn't seem to

    consistantly get the sexual oomph that -none does. In the end a good phero user will use what's right for the

    situation as well as being skillful in the social and appearence aspects of dating.

    -SwingerMD
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