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SLK
03-14-2004, 11:28 PM
Hi,

When I put on a full

pack of SOE Gel, the hits I get from women during the day tend to be more of subtle ones. For instance, long dreamy

looks, double takes and diminishing personal space. However, the day after, I receive stares from just about

everyone. Guys, girls look at me like some celebrity.

If I have not mistaken, this could probably due to the

effect of NOL to NONE convertion. If NONE gives this type of hits(DIHL, attention grabbing), why dont I receive this

sort of hits from AE/M ? Isn\'t AE/M supposed to be NONE heavy? Strangely, my success with AE/M has been rather

limited, unlike SOE and NPA/TE.

Will I be more successful with PI/m?

bundyburger
03-15-2004, 12:08 AM
Don\'t know

about being more successful, but I think you might find PI/m a handy addition to your arsenal.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Especially if you are currently left with -none converted from the

previous days SoE application and it\'s helping.

HAve you tried the full SoE pack with NPA/m in a

combo??

AE/m just doesn\'t work for some people it seems. Some swear by it. Others find it useless. I like it.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

SLK
03-15-2004, 01:01 AM
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Don\'t know about being more successful, but I think you might find PI/m a

handy addition to your arsenal. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Especially if you are currently

left with -none converted from the previous days SoE application and it\'s helping.

HAve you tried the full

SoE pack with NPA/m in a combo??

AE/m just doesn\'t work for some people it seems. Some swear by it. Others

find it useless. I like it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



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I have tried DD#1, the reactions are similar to SOE standalone with a sexual edge to it.

However, nothing beats DIHL/Attention grabbing nature of the day-after SOE standalone application. Thus, I was

wondering if pure PI/m could have that effect as well.

pico
03-15-2004, 01:48 AM
Yeah, I always use PI as

part of any combo. If I could only have one pheromone product, then it would be PI. Pure none is the attention

grabber I\'ve found.

Has anyone else found that they get good results from the next day after a gel pack

application? SLK, did you shower at all inbetween?

It\'s interesting that some people can\'t use any none at

all and some people don\'t get any results from AE.

I may have to give SOE a retry, but for now I\'m happily

testing my AE+WAGG+PI+NPA combos.

SLK
03-15-2004, 02:48 AM
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Yeah, I always use PI as part of any combo. If I could only have one

pheromone product, then it would be PI. Pure none is the attention grabber I\'ve found.

Has anyone else found

that they get good results from the next day after a gel pack application? SLK, did you shower at all

inbetween?

It\'s interesting that some people can\'t use any none at all and some people don\'t get any

results from AE.

I may have to give SOE a retry, but for now I\'m happily testing my AE+WAGG+PI+NPA

combos.




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Nope, no in-between shower after full gel pack SOE

application.

bjf
03-15-2004, 06:22 AM
SLK:

Is this the next

day without showering?

Does it smell funky on your skin after it converts?

SLK
03-15-2004, 07:00 AM
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SLK:

Is this the next day without showering?

Does it smell funky on

your skin after it converts?

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Yup, the next day without

showering. No funky smell, pretty normal to me.

bjf
03-15-2004, 07:06 AM
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SLK:

Is this the next day without showering?

Does it smell funky on your skin after it converts?



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Yup, the next day without showering. No funky smell, pretty

normal to me.

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This is just a guess of course, but I think

you have a slower conversion rate for pheromones than most people. It has to do with personal chemistry, bacteria

colonies, etc.

How long do the Nol effects last?

SLK
03-15-2004, 10:09 AM
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SLK:

Is this the next day without

showering?

Does it smell funky on your skin after it converts?

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Yup, the next day without showering. No funky smell, pretty normal to me.

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This is just a guess of course, but I think you have a slower conversion

rate for pheromones than most people. It has to do with personal chemistry, bacteria colonies, etc.

How long do

the Nol effects last?

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The NOL effects lasts for 8-10 hours.

Afther this period, I start to see the NONE effects kick in. This reminds me of a recent hit story.

I wore a

full pack of SOE gel around 8 in the evening and met up with my cousin\'s girl friends. A couple of the girls were

giving me the long dreamy look right upon introduction. I knew the NOL was working beautifully because they became

really chatty and wanted to be really close to me physically, initiating plenty of kino but nothing sexual. After

the clubbing scene was over around 4am in the morning, we decided to hit the beach for some \"relaxation\".

Conversations started to take a sexual turn. Close to 6am in the morning, both girls started talking dirty and one

of them actually said, \"If only this place was less rocky, I would [censored] you then and there.\" Well,

straight to the hotel of course and guess what? Even that was not initiated by me. I must say that was one of the

best hits I\'ved had with pheros usage. Oh yeah, alcohol inhibition was hardly a factor coz\' we didn\'t

really drink that night, only a couple of glasses at most.

Cheers
slk

DrSmellThis
03-15-2004, 11:13 AM
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Hi,

When I put on a full pack of SOE Gel, the

hits I get from women during the day tend to be more of subtle ones. For instance, long dreamy looks, double takes

and diminishing personal space. However, the day after, I receive stares from just about everyone. Guys, girls look

at me like some celebrity.

If I have not mistaken, this could probably due to the effect of NOL to NONE

convertion. If NONE gives this type of hits(DIHL, attention grabbing), why dont I receive this sort of hits from

AE/M ? Isn\'t AE/M supposed to be NONE heavy? Strangely, my success with AE/M has been rather limited, unlike SOE

and NPA/TE.

Will I be more successful with PI/m?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Try Edge and

compare. SOE and -nol convert to other things besides -none. I\'ve always intuited that one of them was a secret

ingredient in Edge, but this goes to show why I don\'t think conversions are at all bad if you learn how to

\"surf the wave.\"

scentinel
03-15-2004, 11:21 AM
And if conversion

is done through bacteria, you could become the secret ingredient by dropping serveral drops of armpit-sweat into the

bottle, exposing it to air for a while, and marvel at the beauty of it. (Sometimes I really wonder how awful those

secret ingredients could be...) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

belgareth
03-15-2004, 11:26 AM
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And if conversion is done through bacteria, you

could become the secret ingredient by dropping serveral drops of armpit-sweat into the bottle, exposing it to air

for a while, and marvel at the beauty of it. (Sometimes I really wonder how awful those secret ingredients could

be...) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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Not

with any of the alcohol based mones you couldn\'t.The bacteria would die too quickly. The oil based stuff I

don\'t know about but think it would depend on whether the bacteria needed air to survive.

pico
03-15-2004, 11:32 AM
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Try Edge and compare. SOE and -nol convert to other things besides -none.

I\'ve always intuited that one of them was a secret ingredient in Edge, but this goes to show why I don\'t think

conversions are at all bad if you learn how to \"surf the wave.\"

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DrSmellThis,
How certain are you of this? I searched for conversion of nol on this forum and

on google, and found nothing much except none.

scentinel
03-15-2004, 11:37 AM
Looking at old

posts about it, I don\'t think anyone figured out for sure what made the pheromones convert. (Spank me if I\'m

wrong). Either it were bacteria, or it was body heat.

Both possibilities don\'t seem to be hard to

replicate: either drop your bacteria in the bottle, or just heat the bottle gently to 37 degrees Celcius for,

let\'s say, 24 hours. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

But alchohol vaporises, no? So

eventually, bacteria would overcome the pheromones anyway. It would just take longer. (So conversion on the body

is quicker with oily phero\'s then those diluted in alcohol?)

bjf
03-15-2004, 11:39 AM
These are just his

theories, don\'t expect to find any \"proof\".

bjf
03-15-2004, 11:41 AM
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Try Edge

and compare. SOE and -nol convert to other things besides -none. I\'ve always intuited that one of them was a

secret ingredient in Edge, but this goes to show why I don\'t think conversions are at all bad if you learn how to

\"surf the wave.\"

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DrSmellThis,
How certain are you of this?

I searched for conversion of nol on this forum and on google, and found nothing much except none.


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Pico,

There are a lot of pheromones out there we do not know about etc.

It is not necessarily as simple as nol always and justs converts to none.

You won\'t find much info on these

boards about it, so don\'t waste your time.

SLK
03-15-2004, 11:48 AM
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Hi,

When I

put on a full pack of SOE Gel, the hits I get from women during the day tend to be more of subtle ones. For

instance, long dreamy looks, double takes and diminishing personal space. However, the day after, I receive stares

from just about everyone. Guys, girls look at me like some celebrity.

If I have not mistaken, this could

probably due to the effect of NOL to NONE convertion. If NONE gives this type of hits(DIHL, attention grabbing), why

dont I receive this sort of hits from AE/M ? Isn\'t AE/M supposed to be NONE heavy? Strangely, my success with

AE/M has been rather limited, unlike SOE and NPA/TE.

Will I be more successful with PI/m?

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Try Edge and compare. SOE and -nol convert to other things besides -none.

I\'ve always intuited that one of them was a secret ingredient in Edge, but this goes to show why I don\'t think

conversions are at all bad if you learn how to \"surf the wave.\"

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Yes, I\'ved tried Egde standalone. It has proved to be middleground between NOL and NONE for

me. Some attention grabbing effect combined with a sexual aggressiveness. However, not even close to the sheer

attention I get when SOE decays to NONE or whatever.

bjf
03-15-2004, 11:54 AM
You can try PPA, it is

only none and not as expensive as PI. The concentration is lower, but it is cheap.

pico
03-15-2004, 11:55 AM
hey bjf,
I found this,

quite interesting.


phero buildup and conversion (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB5&amp;Number=90183&amp;page=&amp

;view=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1\")

Either way I\'m a lot more

confident washing thouroughly and using alcohol swaps over application points, then I have more control over what I

have on, rather than having old converted mones.
I\'ve found that hot showers and exfoliating scrub do not remove

all phero build up. We don\'t have purell here in the UK.

SLK
03-15-2004, 12:00 PM
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You can try PPA, it is only none and not as expensive as PI. The

concentration is lower, but it is cheap.

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bjf,

thought about

PPA but the quality of NONE differs between each manufacturer. Thus, I was wondering if anyone uses PPA around here

on a regular basis.

bjf
03-15-2004, 12:02 PM
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hey bjf,
I found this, quite interesting.


phero buildup and conversion (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB5&amp;Number=90183&amp;page=&amp

;view=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1\")

Either way I\'m a lot more

confident washing thouroughly and using alcohol swaps over application points, then I have more control over what I

have on, rather than having old converted mones.
I\'ve found that hot showers and exfoliating scrub do not remove

all phero build up. We don\'t have purell here in the UK.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I

don\'t get it, do you want conversion (like DST enjoys some of it) or do you want all converted pheromones off

your skin?

bjf
03-15-2004, 12:06 PM
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You can try

PPA, it is only none and not as expensive as PI. The concentration is lower, but it is cheap.

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bjf,

thought about PPA but the quality of NONE differs between each

manufacturer. Thus, I was wondering if anyone uses PPA around here on a regular basis.

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Since so many people want high-concentration products, no, but that

doesn\'t mean it is worse, you just have to put on more. Plus stone labs is reputable (who make PPA).

So

rather than spend all that money on PI, I would be inclined to get PPA. PI does nothing for me, but pure none may

very well work for you, given your unique body chemistry. I\'d just get the PPA though, it will still last you a

long time. My PI I will never finish, I didn\'t need that much /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

pico
03-15-2004, 12:18 PM
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hey bjf,
I

found this, quite interesting.


phero buildup and conversion (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB5&amp;Number=90183&amp;page=&amp

;view=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1\")

Either way I\'m a lot more

confident washing thouroughly and using alcohol swaps over application points, then I have more control over what I

have on, rather than having old converted mones.
I\'ve found that hot showers and exfoliating scrub do not remove

all phero build up. We don\'t have purell here in the UK.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I

don\'t get it, do you want conversion (like DST enjoys some of it) or do you want all converted pheromones off

your skin?

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well the subject of this thread has changed. But yeah,

I\'m looking for ways to 100% remove the pheromone build up. That way you know you can start from a clean slate.

bjf
03-15-2004, 12:29 PM
Yes it is nice to start

from a clean slate, but it isn\'t the biggest deal in the world. I think if you spread out your applications

rather than concertating them in spots, or perhaps concentrating them in spots but alternating where you apply mones

can help.

Of course, keep doing the other things you are doing.

pico
03-15-2004, 12:52 PM
no it\'s not the

biggest deal in the world, but I\'ve found it helps.
In fact the best hits I have had by far have been ones in

which I\'ve taken a week off. So I want to reproduce this effect EVERY DAY.

I may on some weeks go out on

thursday, friday and then saturday.
I\'ve found that the next night is never as good as the night before, and

that sometimes, especially on the saturday I will get nada, no hits.

bjf
03-15-2004, 12:56 PM
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no it\'s not the biggest deal in the world, but I\'ve found it helps.
In

fact the best hits I have had by far have been ones in which I\'ve taken a week off. So I want to reproduce this

effect EVERY DAY.

I may on some weeks go out on thursday, friday and then saturday.
I\'ve found that the next

night is never as good as the night before, and that sometimes, especially on the saturday I will get nada, no hits.



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I\'ve found the exact same thing in everything you spoke of.

Unless love-scent does the pheromone eraser product, I think it is hard to use any technique other than lay-off to

start from scratch. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

pico
03-15-2004, 01:40 PM
well surely we can make

a \"pheromone eraser\" ourselves.

I\'m not sure on second thoughts that alcohol swabs will work - I mean, NPA

uses alcohol as a carrier, so why on earth would that get rid of the pheromones?

The most convenient option I can

think of right now is an exfolient scrub. This will remove some of the outer layer of the skin. However, I\'m sure

the pheromones get down further into the skin than the first layer, and can stay down in the lower layers for a long

time.

To get rid of these, we may have to subject the application points to hot water/steam to open up the skin

pores, and then using a scrub.

I have had too many nights now especially on saturdays where the pheromones have

had no effect. We need something to erase the buildup!

bjf
03-15-2004, 01:50 PM
Pico everthing you say is

on the money

Alcohol wouldn\'t be the same as a steroid degredation compound.

To help avoid some of the

stuff from sinking into lower layers of the skin, my only idea was using a layer of hat jobobo oil stuff (spl?) to

clog the pores before a pheromone application.

I do the exoliating, hot shower thing too and try not to apply to

often. Yea it is wierd isn\'t it, when you go out friday and are getting great hits, and then saturday it is

different.

I have found daytime use or with a SO you can get more more consistent hits but for whatever reason

in a bar, you have to standout, and it is harder to draw consistent results. Probably because of the packed people

with their own perfumes and natural pheromones penetrating the air.

pico
03-15-2004, 02:37 PM
what about face

washes/toners with salicylic acid or alpha-hydroxy acids? (AHA) Maybe these are good pheromone erasers.



salicylic acid (\"http://www.skincarerx.com/salicylic-acid.html\")


alpha hydroxy acids (\"http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/aha.html\")

these acids go right into your skin

pores and supposedly gets rid of bacteria.
I have used alpha hydroxy face washes before, plus I have a salicylic

acid containing toner.

Plus who knows, it may radiate out my skin too

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bjf
03-15-2004, 02:47 PM
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what about face washes/toners with salicylic acid or alpha-hydroxy acids?

(AHA) Maybe these are good pheromone erasers.

salicylic

acid (\"http://www.skincarerx.com/salicylic-acid.html\")
alpha hydroxy acids (\"http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/aha.html\")

these acids go right

into your skin pores and supposedly gets rid of bacteria.
I have used alpha hydroxy face washes before, plus I have

a salicylic acid containing toner.

Plus who knows, it may radiate out my skin too

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Good question,

not sure how they would interact with the pheromones. I am skeptical though, but it is worth looking into.

Hopefully someone with a better idea of chemistry can answer this. I don\'t think that they could degrade

steroids though.

CptKipling
03-16-2004, 10:20 AM
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Hi,

When I put on a full pack of SOE Gel, the hits I get from women during

the day tend to be more of subtle ones. For instance, long dreamy looks, double takes and diminishing personal

space. However, the day after, I receive stares from just about everyone. Guys, girls look at me like some

celebrity.

If I have not mistaken, this could probably due to the effect of NOL to NONE convertion. If NONE

gives this type of hits(DIHL, attention grabbing), why dont I receive this sort of hits from AE/M ? Isn\'t AE/M

supposed to be NONE heavy? Strangely, my success with AE/M has been rather limited, unlike SOE and NPA/TE.

Will I

be more successful with PI/m?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Try Edge and compare. SOE and -nol

convert to other things besides -none. I\'ve always intuited that one of them was a secret ingredient in Edge, but

this goes to show why I don\'t think conversions are at all bad if you learn how to \"surf the wave.\"

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I agree with the Doc.

Put some SOE on, leave it until it has gone

slightly rancid and smell it. I\'ll put money on it not just being -none you can smell. Then if we remember that

we are also dealing with -rone conversions, we get even more posibilities.

To put the \"-none does not convert

to anything\" myth to bed, here\'s a bit of chemistry.

In the past, people have said that -none won\'t

evolve because it is a ketone (the \"-none\" part describes the type of alcohol). If my memory serves me

correctly, ketones are tertiary alcohols, and do not oxidise any more because of the fully bonded carbon atom. But

this doesn\'t mean that bacteria can\'t find other parts of the molecule to mess around with, androgens are

quite large.

bjf
03-16-2004, 11:08 AM
Good post Cpt

bjf
03-16-2004, 11:15 AM
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SLK:

Is this the next day without showering?

Does it smell funky on

your skin after it converts?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yup, the next day without

showering. No funky smell, pretty normal to me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

This is just a

guess of course, but I think you have a slower conversion rate for pheromones than most people. It has to do with

personal chemistry, bacteria colonies, etc.

How long do the Nol effects last?

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class=\"post\">

The NOL effects lasts for 8-10 hours. Afther this period, I start to see the NONE effects kick

in.

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SLK, you are a slow converter all right. When I asked some

other guys who seemed like you (excellent chemsitry), two out of the three ate spicy food. Then you told me you eat

a lot of spicy food in your PM.

Spicy food defintely causes changes in one\'s chemsitry.

Anyway, I wonder

if this places a role in the bacteria colonies you have, your sweat pH, etc.

Both of those things effect

pheromone conversion.

SLK
03-16-2004, 12:23 PM
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SLK:

Is

this the next day without showering?

Does it smell funky on your skin after it converts?

<hr

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Yup, the next day without showering. No funky smell, pretty normal to me.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

This is just a guess of course, but I think you have a slower

conversion rate for pheromones than most people. It has to do with personal chemistry, bacteria colonies,

etc.

How long do the Nol effects last?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The NOL effects lasts

for 8-10 hours. Afther this period, I start to see the NONE effects kick in.

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class=\"post\">

SLK, you are a slow converter all right. When I asked some other guys who seemed like you

(excellent chemsitry), two out of the three ate spicy food. Then you told me you eat a lot of spicy food in your

PM.

Spicy food defintely causes changes in one\'s chemsitry.

Anyway, I wonder if this places a role in

the bacteria colonies you have, your sweat pH, etc.

Both of those things effect pheromone conversion.


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Interesting inference about spicy foods. You may be well right about its

effects on body chemistry. I just wonder why AE/m does almost nothing for me. SOE and NPA get positive reactions, so

its not a case of whether I am NOL or NONE type. Hmm, just strange.

bjf
03-16-2004, 12:52 PM
Maybe on some guys, too

much rone doesn\'t work or something AE has more rone in it than soe. For whatever reason, AE just doesn\'t

work on some guys while NPA and SOE do....you are me are both one of them.

That whole thing is a mystery.

Sagacious1420
03-16-2004, 01:03 PM
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AE has more rone in it than soe.

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Are you sure about that?

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bjf
03-16-2004, 01:05 PM
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AE has more

rone in it than soe.

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Are you sure about that?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Good

point, maybe not. Meant in the ratios with Nol. I don\'t know what it is about AE, I always figured it was the

lack of the secret ingredients, but this guy gets good hits when SOE turns into None. Then again, it is probably

not just none in there.

Elana
03-16-2004, 02:03 PM
bjf, don\'t AE/m and

SOE actually have the SAME Rone content at .010%?

bjf
03-16-2004, 02:13 PM
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bjf, don\'t AE/m and SOE actually have the SAME Rone content at .010%?



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Isn\'t is 4:1 nol:rone for soe and like 1.5:1 nol:rone for

AE?

I was talking in terms of ratios, it seems like that is often more important. You are right about what you

said in terms of amounts though.

Sexyredhead
03-16-2004, 05:16 PM
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bjf, don\'t AE/m and SOE actually have the SAME Rone content at .010%?



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Isn\'t is 4:1 nol:rone for soe and like 1.5:1 nol:rone for

AE?

I was talking in terms of ratios, it seems like that is often more important. You are right about what you

said in terms of amounts though.

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The phero ratios of AE/m are

4:3:2 None, Nol, Rone. But surely you must have known that? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

bjf
03-16-2004, 05:28 PM
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bjf, don\'t AE/m and SOE actually have the

SAME Rone content at .010%?

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Isn\'t is 4:1 nol:rone for soe

and like 1.5:1 nol:rone for AE?

I was talking in terms of ratios, it seems like that is often more important.

You are right about what you said in terms of amounts though.

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class=\"post\">

The phero ratios of AE/m are 4:3:2 None, Nol, Rone. But surely you must have known that?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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A 3:2

relationship between nol and rone would be the same as 1.5:1, what was stated in the post you replied to. Now that

has more (parts) rone in it than a 4:1 mix, correct?

Ratios are often more significant than amounts. A drop

of PI and all of a sudden I am a mad man. Add 3 drops of Nol and I am happy go luck.

bjf
03-16-2004, 05:40 PM
SRH, did you ask me that

because I left out the none, ie 7:2 other pheromones to rone???

Sagacious1420
03-16-2004, 07:23 PM
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A 3:2 relationship between nol and rone would be

the same as 1.5:1, what was stated in the post you replied to. Now that has more (parts) rone in it than a 4:1 mix,

correct?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Sorry, I haven\'t really been following this thread. What

was the significance of all this again?

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Ratios

are often more significant than amounts.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">So does that mean that you

could wear a full bottle of PI as long as you have other pheros along w/ it in the \"correct\" ratio?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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A drop of PI and all of a sudden I am a mad man. Add 3 drops of Nol and I am

happy go luck.

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So are you saying that the nol counteracts the

none? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

bjf
03-16-2004, 07:43 PM
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Sorry, I haven\'t really been following this thread. What was the

significance of all this again?


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That\'s cute



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So does that mean that you could wear a full

bottle of PI as long as you have other pheros along w/ it in the \"correct\" ratio

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Nope. I said \"often\". I know you are smarter than that. Do you just like arguing?



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So are you saying that the nol counteracts the

none?

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Changes the feel of the mix. That\'s all I said. You

know this stuff.

Sagacious1420
03-16-2004, 11:13 PM
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Sorry, I haven\'t really been following this thread. What was the

significance of all this again?


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That\'s cute

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Sorry, just being sarcastic...trying to get the thread back on track.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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/>
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So does that mean that you could wear a full

bottle of PI as long as you have other pheros along w/ it in the \"correct\" ratio

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Nope. I said \"often\". I know you are smarter than that. Do you just like arguing?



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So are you saying that the nol counteracts the

none?

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Changes the feel of the mix. That\'s all I said. You

know this stuff.

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Yes, you and I both know better than that, but

newbies don\'t. We wouldn\'t want them to get the wrong idea, now would we.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Damn sarcasm...must be an affliction.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Btw, yes I do like to argue, but that\'s an entirely different

story. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif