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    Guys, after a little browsing I came accross a product Called "Pherox" which claims to increase your bodies own

    pheromones through supplementation. I have tried a phero enchancer before by the name of Attract-Rx, which did not

    work for me. Can anyone provide validation on whether or not these products work?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    Hey

    Guys, after a little browsing I came accross a product Called "Pherox" which claims to increase your bodies own

    pheromones through supplementation. I have tried a phero enchancer before by the name of Attract-Rx, which did not

    work for me. Can anyone provide validation on whether or not these products work?

    Thanks


    Jamie Hmmmm food for

    thought.
    It is a well known fact that Attract-Rx has not been used

    with succes by anyone who has posted on the forums over the years, as all reports have been as discribed by yourself

    with respect to its use.


    It appears that the "Pherox" comes with a 110% guarantee, perhaps you can be the first one to post

    up a reveiw here as to the effectiveness of this supplement reputed to give great results acording to the

    testemonials given on its web site.
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    I may just do that. The fact

    that it comes in a dropper bottle as a liquid is interesting...but Through experience I have noticed that most phero

    companys will dingy you right after you have bought their product. the site claims " Instantly you will notice

    the results as the body warms and the skin tingles", would this be safe? Im all in for expermenting but if its with

    something dangerous, im out . Regarding the testemonials - I dont think most sites have real, impartial

    comments as there are never any bad reports...

    EDIT: Being me, and having more money than sense I decided to buy

    Pherox from a UK supplier. I took a look at the ingredients which turn out to mean nothing to me so could a more

    enlightened member please explain if any of the following could possibly have phero increasing properties.
    Vitamin

    E (as Tocopheryl Acetate)
    Thiamine HCI
    Riboflavin (as Riboflavin-5-Phosphate-Sodium)
    Niacin (as Nicotinic

    HCI)
    Vitamin B 12 (as Cyanocobalamin)
    Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate)
    Caffeine

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    I

    may just do that. The fact that it comes in a dropper bottle as a liquid is interesting...but Through experience I

    have noticed that most phero companys will dingy you right after you have bought their product. the site claims "

    Instantly you will notice the results as the body warms and the skin tingles", would this be safe? Im all in for

    expermenting but if its with something dangerous, im out . Regarding the testemonials - I dont think most

    sites have real, impartial comments as there are never any bad reports...

    EDIT: Being me, and having more money

    than sense I decided to buy Pherox from a UK supplier. I took a look at the ingredients which turn out to mean

    nothing to me so could a more enlightened member please explain if any of the following could possibly have phero

    increasing properties.
    Vitamin E (as Tocopheryl Acetate)
    Thiamine HCI
    Riboflavin (as

    Riboflavin-5-Phosphate-Sodium)
    Niacin (as Nicotinic HCI)
    Vitamin B 12 (as Cyanocobalamin)
    Pantothenic Acid (as

    Calcium Pantothenate)
    Caffeine

    Thanks
    Their vitamin E, Tocopheryl

    Acetate is a relativley usless form, and nowhere near as effective as the natural vitamin E ( d-alpha Tocopherol

    )...


    And

    the other ingredients can all be found in a vitamin B complex formulation, with the exception of Caffeine.



    My gut

    tells me that the stuff would be a waste of time and a waste of hard earned money and would be better off left alone

    unless you have piles of money laying around and nothing to spend it on.


    Maby something in the ingredients works to

    have a catalyistic effect on the Caffeine and that produces a warm buzz which in turn produces a nice grin and hence

    the attraction. ha ha expensive smile.
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    Yeah to be honest I

    expected it to be a waste of money but then again its always good to try new things even if all i get is an

    "expensive smile" . So, as soon as I test this stuff out i will post my experience and mabey save you guys

    some money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    Yeah to be honest I expected it to be a waste of money but then again its always

    good to try new things even if all i get is an "expensive smile" . So, as soon as I test this stuff out i

    will post my experience and mabey save you guys some money...
    weeel sure

    be lookin forward to your report, as the proof of the pudding is in the eating so they say

    .


    And if the

    juice proves to be sommat outa de ordinary then imagion the added boost of added synthethic pheromones on top to add

    flavour.


    Besides its good to have a dedicated pioneer on the team, a real asset to the forum id say, so

    good luck with it all Jamie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    ... the

    site claims " Instantly you will notice the results as the body warms and the skin tingles", would this be safe? Im

    all in for expermenting but if its with something dangerous, im out .
    Niacin will do this.

    It's sold as a vitamin. Docs often recommend it for lowering cholesterol. Relatively harmless although large doses

    over long periods of time might harm the liver. You can find more information about it on a web search.
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    Well, My Pherox arrived and I

    must say that the Dosage technique is rather strange. A few drops under your tounge and held in your mouth

    for about a minute. It tastes of nothing other-worldly, Similar to cough syrup. Will repost in 20 minutes when the

    "skin warming/tingling" effects are supposed to kick in...

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    Its been over 20 minutes now

    and I dont feel any different. I dont go out until later tonight but I will keep an eye out for any possible

    effects.

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    From the ingredients I'd say

    it was junk.

    If you want to up your pheromone production go to the gym and lift some weights. Maybe also try

    ZMA.
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    Good health will of course improve

    your natural pheromone signature. Like the Capt says, a good workout is probably your best investment there.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    My guess is that a

    natural testosterone booster would increase your natural mone levels, would it not?. That is, something that

    increases your natural test production. A lot of weight lifters, body builders etc. use such products. I

    definitely think it works (for test at least), I don't know about pheromone production though.

    Instead of

    recommending a specific product, let me just say that a plant called tribulus terrestris is known to increase test

    levels. Also, there is a plethora of "Aromatase Inhibitors," which basically block test-to-estrogen conversion,

    thus indirectly increasing test levels.

    Just google either or find a health food/supplement store.

    I hope

    that helps.

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    The testosterone booster that i am using at the moment works far better than a tribulus type product

    it is called "Androstenetrione" and it is not a pro hormone but works in a manner so as not to be liver

    toxic.


    I have been taking 300mg for the last 16 days and it

    works wonders for me, it is also comonly known as "6-oxo" and can be purchased just about

    anywhere.


    I buy it in the 20grm powder size called 1Fast400

    Androstenetrione, and cap it myself, i order it from www.bulknutrition.com

    who actually get the stuff here to me in Australia in 4 days.


    The only real side effect is that i have been waking up each morning with a monster woody.

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    Well it never was an attempt

    to boost my natural Pheros per say, more of clarification of whether or not such products exist. Apparently Not.

    While on the subject of Testosterone could I ask what benefits I would gain from having it in decent amounts? All I

    know is that it is the main male Hormone but I do not know much of its function. Can anyone explain?

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    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to

    boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to

    be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not

    saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be messing with your endocrine system without being sure

    about the consequences.

    http://pherolibrary.com/articles/pheromone-increase.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I

    know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side

    effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be

    messing with your endocrine system without being sure about the consequences.



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    omone-increase.htm
    Thanks for the concern Captain, Re 6-oxo, yes there

    is always oposing interests out there trying to scare monger when a product has proven successfull in many

    university tests and is a leader in its field as 6-oxo is and this is to be understood.


    It is a good thing the Australian

    customs do not allow dangerous supplements be imported into this country to be used as it is very strict with with

    the importing of "dangerous goods" as we have very stringent medical guidelines that have to be adhered to and our

    customs service is the very best in the world and need to be congratulated in the efforts they go to in protecting

    our citizens from poisons and dangerous hormones and hgh ect ect.


    Out of the 100 s of testemonials supporting

    the product 6-oxo there have been several reports of some users getting a little pimpley on the back and one person

    stated he had trouble sleeping after taking it at bedtime, but overall nothing negative except from those with

    vested interests, as there always will be those scare tactics working to be subversive.


    To be sure if "Androstenetrione" posed

    any genuine health related threats our Government would never allow it to be freely imported into the country, even

    my shipment had been opened and inspected by customs agents and resealed before delivery to

    me.


    Actually

    there are hundreds of other anabolic supplements that are produced in USA and do not stand a chance of ever entering

    this country because of the scientific expertese that we posess in the detecting of "genuine" dangerous goods.



    But good

    advice from you is appreciated as there are so many agents and even herbal ingredients that can have an effect on

    the endocrine system not forgeting licorice and ginsing and many chinese herbs that the Earth has provided for us to

    use with prudence and wisdom.


    So may we be guided with the spirit of intelligence in the choices that we

    make.


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    56 years old and have been treating myself long before my doctors told me i would not live past 30 years of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    ZMA is the "cleanest" way to boost testosterone levels via supplementation as far as I

    know.

    ...and Terry, be careful about what you seem to be stating as fact there. Also, 6-oxo does have other side

    effects, a quick google will tell you this. I'm not saying I know it's a bad idea, but you really shouldn't be

    messing with your endocrine system without being sure about the consequences.



    http://pherolibrary.com/articles/pheromone-increase.htm


    Thanks Captain, I have just done some serious research on ZMA and read some fantastic reveiws, especially

    regarding sleep and energy.


    Really great stuff that i will be certain to order, thanks Squire.



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    No worries terry, just making

    sure we have a balance of opinions in the thread.

    Oh and I have supplemented my zinc intake with up to 45mg with

    good results.

    For everyone's information, 6-oxo may also have unknown problems further down the line (that

    doesn't mean it will,
    its just means that there hasn't been enough time to determine long term effects

    properly). You will also potentially experience the nastier effects of raising testosterone, such as acne and

    accelerated hair loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    No

    worries terry, just making sure we have a balance of opinions in the thread.

    Oh and I have supplemented my zinc

    intake with up to 45mg with good results.

    For everyone's information, 6-oxo may also have unknown problems

    further down the line (that doesn't mean it will,
    its just means that there hasn't been enough time to determine

    long term effects properly). You will also potentially experience the nastier effects of raising testosterone, such

    as acne and accelerated hair loss.
    Thats right as who really knows the long

    term effects of the 6-oxo substance, It is something that should be cycled, and i have a while on

    still.


    I did

    order the 1FAST400 brand ZMA from www.bulknutrition.com after reading

    some of the users comments, so will probably start out taking 2 at night, it appears they must be consumed without

    any calcium products. The price of bulknutritions own brands ( 1FAST400 ) quality is good, when compared with some

    others.

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    Right, well seeing as I still

    have the pherox and not wanting to 'waste' I have continued use and about 10 minutes ago I experimented a little

    and decided to OD a little on it. All I have to say is "Ow, it Burns!". My skin, particularily my face has gone red

    and there is a slight throbbing in my ears that is luckily fading quickly...

    Some food for thought for you guys


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    Right, well seeing as I still have the pherox and not wanting to 'waste' I have continued

    use and about 10 minutes ago I experimented a little and decided to OD a little on it. All I have to say is "Ow, it

    Burns!". My skin, particularily my face has gone red and there is a slight throbbing in my ears that is luckily

    fading quickly...

    Some food for thought for you guys
    Wow seriously

    hot stuff man, I hope ya get some hits outa it all.

    Great work

    with this and appreciate your feedback
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    Well thanks Terry, I also

    bought some ZMA and Tribulus Terrestris from Sci-MX. Its quite high end stuff and pricey so lets see if i get any

    results from this. I may need to lay off my experimentation for a while as its taking its toll on my wallet,

    especially now that Im paying for Driving lessons and the like.

    P.s The burning and pulsing sensation has

    dissapeared but my skin is still a bit red. I wonder how long that will last...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie3500 View Post
    Well thanks Terry, I also bought some ZMA and Tribulus Terrestris from Sci-MX. Its quite

    high end stuff and pricey so lets see if i get any results from this. I may need to lay off my experimentation for a

    while as its taking its toll on my wallet, especially now that Im paying for Driving lessons and the like.

    P.s

    The burning and pulsing sensation has dissapeared but my skin is still a bit red. I wonder how long that will

    last...
    Most people report good results from taking the ZMA, especially in

    the areas of sleep quality, which in turn assists with anabolic enhancement in general.


    Looks like a good product you have, but

    personally i would not go for 8 caps per day, and just use 3-4 caps about 1/2 hour before bed with water on a

    relatively empty tummy. Just remember not to take it together with anything containing calcium, because just about

    every ZMA product warns that it is counter productive to take with Milk, Whey, or calcium

    products.


    There is a good Tongkat-Ali and Tribulus combination capsule availabe and still on special at

    Global Supplements, it appears to have excellent concentrations of the stated herbal ingredients, The price is

    fab.


    I am

    still waiting for my ZMA from www.bulknutrition.com because it was out

    of stock at the time of my order as it is good quality at a good price and i also opted for the $11.99 international

    shipping this time instead of the $22.00 which is superfast delivery.


    Il be interested to see how your sleep

    improves when you start taking your ZMA.




    Also look up ACETYL-L-CARNETINE,
    This can be ordered from a variety of places, But if you log on to

    www.bulknutrition.com and click on to the 1Fast400 brand list of

    products you will see their acetyl-l-carnetine listed amoungst their brand products and when you bring it up you

    have the option of checking the user feedback comments on this supplement, Also Bulknutrition stock other brands of

    this product and many of the featured listings have user comments that you can also check

    out.


    I dont

    receive any credits for mentioning bulknutrition, i just find some good prices and quality for some of their own

    shop lines, and also the opportunity to get user feedback on previously unknown supplements.

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    Just 5mg DHEA definitely

    works for this purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    Just

    5mg DHEA definitely works for this purpose.
    I take a 25mg DHEA supplement 3-4/wk. Definitely notice a

    difference where it counts.

    Along with other putative benefits, its supposed to be a male hormone precursor?

    Testosterone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I take a 25mg

    DHEA supplement 3-4/wk. Definitely notice a difference where it counts.

    Along with other putative benefits, its

    supposed to be a male hormone precursor? Testosterone?
    Both a male and female hormone precursor. see

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...idogenesis.gif
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    Just

    5mg DHEA definitely works for this purpose.
    Ya talkin' daily, Doc?

    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I take a

    25mg DHEA supplement 3-4/wk. Definitely notice a difference where it counts.

    Along with other putative benefits,

    its supposed to be a male hormone precursor? Testosterone?
    How old are you, ID, and is that 3 to 4 times

    per week or 3 to 4 tabs of 25mg per week?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gone View Post
    Both a male

    and female hormone precursor. see

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...idogenesis.gif

    Very funny, can you

    present that in Russian? I'm challenged that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57 View Post




    How old are you, ID, and is that 3 to 4 times per week or 3 to 4 tabs of 25mg per week?
    I'm 50, and

    take a 25mg cap 3-4 times/wk.

    I get it, and other supplements

    here:

    http://www.drwhitaker.com/Products2.aspx?ProductID=DH22

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    I just meant yo can take

    5mg/day whenever you want that boost.

    It was theorized that it boosts -rone, since that's the closest

    offspring, but I think it turns pheromonic in counterintuitive ways; and that DHEA-s (most common skin variety) is

    itself probably a pheromone, likely the most plentiful on the human body. I noticed increased hits, a pheromone

    smell noticeable especially in arm hair; as well as possible increased OD risk with other -mones.

    I only avoid

    it because of hair loss increase, for me personally.

    Though it's a major precursor of T; how much converts to

    T depends on your body's need for it -- not necessarily all that much.
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