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    Smile TE & Super Primal

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    I just

    received the beginners pack a couple days ago. The SOE gel pack smells really good. I'll have to get some of that.



    Is the Super Primal Fragrance different from Primal Instinct? I didn't see anything named Super Primal on the

    product list or store pages.

    I mixed the TE and Super Primal the way it describes in the directions. Half the

    atomizer vial with TE and one dropper of Super Primal. Some people have described the TE has having a bad smell. It

    doesn't smell great, but the main thing I could smell is the alcohol. It seems to have another smell underneath

    that, but more like a somewhat fruity smell than BO. It reminded me of the alcohol/disinfectant smell when going

    into a doctors office or hospital.

    I have noticed a change in body language, seemingly involuntary, in some

    women I've talked to while wearing this. Mostly fidgeting with clothes and hair. As well as people being more

    talkative and open.

    Interesting so far. I'm looking forward to experimenting further.
    Last edited by Pendragon; 01-12-2008 at 06:56 AM. Reason: typo
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    Thanks for the link. I see on

    there it says to mix the TE/SPMO 1:1. That likely the reason for the stronger smell. The way I understood it from

    the instructions would have come out to around 2 or 3 to 1 instead of an even 1:1 ratio.
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    The "Super Primal" name is a bit

    confusing as it is so similar to Primal Instinct, but have no doubt there *is* a big difference.

    SPMO = "Super

    Primal Musk Oil"

    PI is mostly androstenone (sexual).
    SPMO has a bit of androstenol (social).

    I still use

    the SPMO I got about 2 years ago as either a stand-alone or as a cover to various other pheromones. I usually end up

    using a couple of drops.
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    I think I've heard

    about 25% of people can smell the odor initially, but as people are more exposed to it, the nose can be "trained" to

    smell it better. If you wear the mones consistently, you might be able to smell the TE after a while.

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    I think, at least at the

    present, that more than one spray of straight TE is too much. The couple times I've used two sprays, I've had a

    headache like, dazed feeling for a few hours. I haven't noticed much difference in others relative to one or two

    sprays though.

    I had read in the reference section in one part that those could be effects of OD so that seemed

    to fit.

    clarification: I'm primarily using 1 spray of TE w/ 3 sprays of Aqua Gio.
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    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    You could try dabbing to gain

    greater dosage control...
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    Pendragon, I was wondering,

    is the Super Primal the same one that's sold on the Adam & Eve site? Just wondering since I was reading some of the

    feedback posted on that site from people that have purchased Super Primal. It is manufactured by some company

    called Intimate Research Inc., did a google search but nothing of it came up. Here is a picture of the bottle,

    please let me know, thanks...
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    I didn't know Adam & Eve was

    still in business. I thought they closed out years ago.

    I had never heard of Super Primal until I got a bottle

    with the beginners kit. I couldn't really tell you if they're the same or not. Some of the more experienced

    members might be able to though.

    I haven't tried it much. I'm mostly been testing with SOE, Edge, and

    Chikara.
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    Quote Originally Posted by DssMaster View Post
    Pendragon, I

    was wondering, is the Super Primal the same one that's sold on the Adam & Eve site? Just wondering since I was

    reading some of the feedback posted on that site from people that have purchased Super Primal. It is manufactured

    by some company called Intimate Research Inc., did a google search but nothing of it came up. Here is a picture of

    the bottle, please let me know, thanks...

    DssMaster,

    The

    Super Primal Oils are an entry level product

    from Intimate Research. The Super Primal Concentrate that Adam and Eve sells is their high-end product. Both are

    Androstenol products.

    I've tried both products and dollar for dollar I consider the fragranced Super Primal

    Oils to be a better deal. The actual A-Nol content of both products has always been something of a mystery, but I

    recall a member once being told by the manufacturer that the little $7.95 oils have the same A-Nol concentration as

    SOE.

    When it comes to a heavier concentration of A-Nol, the actual phero content of the Super Primal

    Concentrate is vague. On the IR site it says, "Just 10 drops equals the power of an entire bottle of our regular

    cologne!"...but they don't reveal the content of the colognes, so it's too much math with too little data to

    figure it out.
    For an A-Nol concentrate that actually allows me the opportunity to calculate its phero content

    (and for a cleaner smelling product) I prefer the

    "Chem-Set" Androstenol.

    BTW: In the

    future please avoid posting links to sites that sell pheromone products. Thanks.

    Oscar

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    Listen to Oscar; he knows

    what he is talking about.

    Oscar, it is a breath of fresh air to see your post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    You

    could try dabbing to gain greater dosage control...
    Yep. It still suprises me how few people dab Edge.
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    I have found the company

    website of Intimate Research Inc., sent them an email and asked what was the amount of pheros in Super Primal

    Pheromone for Men, and I got my answer within 10-15 min; "40 percent of

    pheromones 60% alcohol", and that it contains the pheromone

    "
    antrostinol" in it, which has to be a spelling mistake,

    because I haven't heard of any phero going by that name.

    I wrote them back and now I got a reply saying

    it is "
    Androstenone". I think this person doesn't even know, and is just making stuff up

    IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DssMaster View Post
    I have

    found the company website of Intimate Research Inc., sent them an email and asked what was the amount of pheros in

    Super Primal Pheromone for Men, and I got my answer within 10-15 min; "40 percent

    of pheromones 60% alcohol", and that it contains the pheromone

    "
    antrostinol" in it, which has to be a spelling mistake,

    because I haven't heard of any phero going by that name.

    I wrote them back and now I got a reply saying

    it is "
    Androstenone". I think this person doesn't even know, and is just making stuff up

    IMO.
    That was complete and utter garbage, wasn't it?
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    It still suprises me how

    few people dab Edge.
    Hey Doc! I recall when I bought the noob kit in 2003 TE shipped with only a cap--no

    spray head. So I had no choice but to dab. Maybe it has a spray head now? It's been a long time since I bought TE.

    I prefer the stronger concentration of NPA for mixing.

    What's funny is lots of guys try to dab NPA and end up

    with an OD. TE is the ticket if you're into dabbing. NPA for mixing.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi View Post
    Hey Doc!

    I recall when I bought the noob kit in 2003 TE shipped with only a cap--no spray head. So I had no choice but to

    dab. Maybe it has a spray head now? It's been a long time since I bought TE. I prefer the stronger concentration of

    NPA for mixing.

    What's funny is lots of guys try to dab NPA and end up with an OD. TE is the ticket if you're

    into dabbing. NPA for mixing.
    Yep. you are exactly correct.

    Avoid NPA -- for Edge -- if you want to

    apply straight without mixing into a cologne first. It is much easier to avoid an OD , and most get better

    results.
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    Gegogi, what do you mix your

    NPA with, with great results? I have Joop Homme, Jean Paul Gaultier, Ralph Lauren Polo, CK Euphoria, and Aqua Velva

    Musk cologne.

    I was thinking of trying to mix the NPA with Aqua Velva Musk cologne not only because it is

    inexpensive, but also because it's the only one that has a screw-on cap, which makes it easy to extract the cologne

    using the syringe.

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    I'd only mix with something I

    like to wear, women love and lasts long enough to work as a cover! I would not choose a scent for mere convenience.

    After all, you'll be stuck with it for a while. A small funnel is available at most perfume stores like Sephora.

    I've even used one intended for filling travel flasks. Pretty easy to make one outta a straw and thin plastic in a

    pinch.

    I have about a half dozen colognes in atomizers premixed with mones. My favs are Burberry Weekend and Isei

    Miyake Summer (2005).

    I'd start with a small batch, mixing 5 parts cologne to 1 part NPA. You can measure in

    drops, a graduated bottle or pipette. I often just mark 6 even lines on my atomizer bottle and fill 5:1.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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