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    had it today...i

    overdosed on my SOE+A1+B.nol mixture...i got a depression dat is so severe i can't do my work...everything seems

    dull and blue...

    was better after 8 hrs or so....next time i will only wear it for dates....lucky its only a

    small bottle of mixing...i still got my trusty old SOE "Original"..

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    I guess I'm lucky A-1 doesn't

    effect me one iota. I normally only need one or 2 drops to stop the GF PMS mood swings. However I've used up to 6

    drops hoping for some sexual side effects and it didn't bother me. The high dose was a bust as far as anything else

    was concerned. Perhaps you'll get used to it. After I used mones for a few months all self-medication effects faded

    away.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    true....but i better lower the

    amt used....hahaa...its really a bad experience to get the depression...really bad...

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    A-1 doesn't bother me either, I

    use 1-2 drops mixed usually with SoE and A7. I've also used 3-4 drops with the same woman with no additional

    effect.

    Too bad about the depression belmont. Did you use a cover? There's a chance it might overcome the

    depression if its a scent that you really like or has mood lifting constituents.

    Having said that, I know that

    the two work in different ways, but who knows?

    I wouldn't wear that mix unless you're dating Sylvia Plath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    A-1

    doesn't bother me either, I use 1-2 drops mixed usually with SoE and A7. I've also used 3-4 drops with the same

    woman with no additional effect.

    Too bad about the depression belmont. Did you use a cover? There's a chance

    it might overcome the depression if its a scent that you really like or has mood lifting constituents.

    Having

    said that, I know that the two work in different ways, but who knows?

    I wouldn't wear that mix unless you're

    dating Sylvia Plath.
    no cover...but i just got my pheros and a roll-on coverscent from LS....so i might

    use them sparingly. pheros smell real nice...

    i'm better sticking back to my regular SOE or taper the dosage

    down...

    i got the best hit using dat mix dats y i am sticking to it...but i guess it should be the ultimate

    weapon and shouldn't use it daily for work...i have had a female colleague stand so close to me when she

    talk....haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belmont View Post
    no

    cover...but i just got my pheros and a roll-on coverscent from LS....so i might use them sparingly. pheros smell

    real nice...

    i'm better sticking back to my regular SOE or taper the dosage down...

    i got the best hit using

    dat mix dats y i am sticking to it...but i guess it should be the ultimate weapon and shouldn't use it daily for

    work...i have had a female colleague stand so close to me when she talk....haha.
    I agree. Try just SoE

    covered with Pheros, its great. Save the A1 for intimate settings, like you said. A1 might be a bit too cozy for

    work.

    Love hearing about "standing so close". That's what its all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I agree.

    Try just SoE covered with Pheros, its great. Save the A1 for intimate settings, like you said. A1 might be a bit

    too cozy for work.

    Love hearing about "standing so close". That's what its all about.
    she was

    standing so close its considered rude as its 'intruding' into personal 'area'....but i dun really mind as she is

    a female...haahhahahaha.

    gonna try pheros+scented SOE on Monday....

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    haha belmont. I was wearing

    AE+SOE combo. Today i woke up feel damn horny. got a hard on. Dunno why. issit because side effect of AE ? or what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by belmont View Post
    she was

    standing so close its considered rude as its 'intruding' into personal 'area'....but i dun really mind as she is

    a female...haahhahahaha.

    gonna try pheros+scented SOE on Monday....
    1 question do you wear any cover

    when you are on mones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcliques View Post
    1

    question do you wear any cover when you are on mones?
    my SOE is scented so no cover....but i bought the

    miyake or something rollon coverscent in case i wanna go 'raw' on A1+bnol for some reason.

    i have yet to try my

    chikara gelpacks yet...haha.

    you won't go wrong with SOE as the base mixture...just add chikara or something

    else and u have a relatively good mix.

    i might stock up on pheros if it gives me good hit on Thursday's

    date...it smells good and makes me feel dat everything is wonderful etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by belmont View Post
    my SOE is

    scented so no cover....but i bought the miyake or something rollon coverscent in case i wanna go 'raw' on A1+bnol

    for some reason.

    i have yet to try my chikara gelpacks yet...haha.

    you won't go wrong with SOE as the base

    mixture...just add chikara or something else and u have a relatively good mix.

    i might stock up on pheros if it

    gives me good hit on Thursday's date...it smells good and makes me feel dat everything is wonderful

    etc....
    I have SoE scented but still cover it. Nothing wrong with the SoE scent, but covers are nicer

    and last longer.

    I get a good feeling from Pheros too, and it makes a great cover. It works with everything.

    Try it with your A1 mix and it might overcome the depression.

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    and what about

    Estratetraenol? A study from Kohl said, that Estra leads to depression in men, too wheras a link at LS said, that

    Estra is the opposite of A1 and so have mone elevating effects in men! Any experiences?



    http://pherolibrary.com/human-pherom...atetraenol.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man View Post
    and

    what about Estratetraenol? A study from Kohl said, that Estra leads to depression in men,



    Do you have a link to the Kohl study where Jim has stated this? I'm as

    up on pheromones as anyone, and either I missed this or this isn't true.

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    I have some chemset

    Estratetraenol (EST) as well as Realm (EST is the active mone). I can't say it's done much for me: no depression

    but no relaxation--nuttin'. Maybe, like cops, it would work better if applied to a live hot chick...
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man View Post
    and

    what about Estratetraenol? A study from Kohl said, that Estra leads to depression in men, too wheras a link at LS

    said, that Estra is the opposite of A1 and so have mone elevating effects in men! Any experiences?



    http://pherolibrary.com/human-pherom...atetraenol.htm
    no idea, didn't try dat...i

    have enough things to play with already....haha

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    A-1 brings me down too. Not as

    bad as you but it is unpleasant. If I use it, it is just a bit on the BACK of my neck, near the hair

    line.

    It does indeed have a use for PMS though - the price of male self-defense I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehall View Post
    A-1

    brings me down too. Not as bad as you but it is unpleasant. If I use it, it is just a bit on the BACK of my neck,

    near the hair line.

    It does indeed have a use for PMS though - the price of male self-defense I

    guess.
    yah, so i am only applying a-1 minutes before my date now....not wholeday. reducing the amount

    too....dun wanna feel so blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man View Post
    and what about Estratetraenol? A study from Kohl said, that Estra leads to depression

    in men, too wheras a link at LS said, that Estra is the opposite of A1 and so have mone elevating effects in men!

    Any experiences?

    http://pherolibrary.com/human-pherom...atetraenol.htm

    I'm

    haven't really noticed depressive feelings from A1, but it does seem like it makes me somewhat sleepy. I actually

    made a mix of EST and A1 (one to one) that I apply and seem to have good results with. I don't seem to get as

    tired with it, and I still find that responses appear to be good from

    women.
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    So this was the culprit...

    I have been feeling horrible these last two or so months, going into the first depression in my life... for no

    apparent reason.

    But its a price I have to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyAsianGuy26 View Post
    So

    this was the culprit... I have been feeling horrible these last two or so months, going into the first depression in

    my life... for no apparent reason.

    But its a price I have to pay.
    Too bad about the depression, it

    sucks and its not good for your social ventures. Try to find a cover scent that gives you a mood boost. It works,

    and there are many fragrances, one of them is sure to please.

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    given time u will get used to it

    but dun apply too much too...best is apply it before you meet your target so u won't be much affected.

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    Yea, I know what you

    mean...


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    I have a horrible theory about A1

    (androstadienone) depression (and if you use it JVK, please contact me so you can credit me in your

    article!).

    A1 is a pheromone secreted by men which makes women feel calm and protected.

    So why would

    A1 make some men feel anxious or depressed? It's a male pheromone, after all?

    Because A1 is a pheromone

    secreted by Alpha Males, and it makes the beta males anxious and depressed. This makes it easier for the alphas to

    get all the women.

    Horrible, huh? That means that if A1 makes you anxious or depressed, you're probably not

    as alpha as you think you are or would like to be.

    Even more horrible: it makes me depressed too.





    Quote Originally Posted by belmont View Post
    had it today...i overdosed on my SOE+A1+B.nol mixture...i got a depression dat

    is so severe i can't do my work...everything seems dull and blue...

    was better after 8 hrs or so....next

    time i will only wear it for dates....lucky its only a small bottle of mixing...i still got my trusty old SOE

    "Original"..

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    I've thought similar things

    about some guys "edgy" reaction to -none...if it makes you edgy you are probably not used to being around it and so

    are probably not secreting it as a metabolite of testosterone and so chances are (biologically/evolutionarily (<--

    that a real word??!)) you are not alpha.
    CptKipling

    Information about pheromones: Pheromone Information Library

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    I've

    thought similar things about some guys "edgy" reaction to -none...if it makes you edgy you are probably not used to

    being around it and so are probably not secreting it as a metabolite of testosterone and so chances are

    (biologically/evolutionarily (<-- that a real word??!)) you are not alpha.
    Interesting thoughts. That's

    the main reason I don't/can't wear NPA.

    I live in what is still a pretty rural (aka redneck) part of the

    southern US. A lot of guys think they are alpha, but mostly just sport a cocky attitude. A few confrontations

    later I stopped the heavy -none use. I am far from aggressive.

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    That is an interesting theory,

    but it could also be due to the fact that we are dealing with mones in unnatural quantities. Few males (alpha or

    otherwise) are likely to secrete pheromones that are this strong for such an extended period of

    time.
    Last edited by Tester123; 12-08-2011 at 05:27 PM.

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    Interesting theory indeed. I am

    not a physically intimidating guy, but am often described as having a lot of charisma. I don't know why but I have

    to be careful with my manner, or I will seem to reject someone when that is not my intention.

    Adding NPA to that

    personal vibe has proven to be too intimidating for some men and women. I've had success with TE and A7 though,

    and have learned to temper the raw -none with -rol and -rone concoctions like SoE and C7.

    A1 works wonders for

    me, and it may be the ultimate -none balancer in certain intimate situations.
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