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    Hey Gents,



    A while back there was an active thread about Liquid Trust. There was some debate about its potential for

    effectiveness, as well as some posts that gave it mixed reviews.

    Does anyone still use it? Why or why not?



    If you do find it's effective, how do you use it and what do you mix it with?

    Thanks,

    -CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    Hey Gents,

    A while back there was an active thread about Liquid Trust. There was

    some debate about its potential for effectiveness, as well as some posts that gave it mixed reviews.

    Does anyone

    still use it? Why or why not?

    If you do find it's effective, how do you use it and what do you mix it with?



    Thanks,

    -CAt
    I purchased some of it and still have about 10 mls left in

    the bottle after using about 2/3 of a bottle i would say i did notice a positive effect by spraying 4 times on outer

    chest shirt areas at about shoulder height.




    This stuff seems to have an effect for me if i use 4 or more sprays and it does

    not seem to be very enduring, but it did give me positive results.


    During a crucial interveiw the female

    interveiwer repeated to me an several occasions " I believe everything you are saying" I had 4 sprays on, the

    interveiwer asked me to call her back on the telephone which i did do an hour later, and she seemed very doubtfull

    that it was actually I that had spoken with her an hour previously, for some reason i dont really know why she said

    this when i was speaking on the phone.





    I Think you could get a

    result from it if you used enough, but it is an expensive shot and also not considered by the majority of my

    contacts as being a very effective product.




    I keep mine in the refrigerator door as some users think that it may be heat

    sensitive.


    If i get an appropriate window sometime soon i will give it another run and report back.

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    I've had positive reactions with

    women when using the LT. Usually a "I feel like I really know you" and "You make me feel so safe". Short lived,

    but effective. I probably will buy again when I run out, although I only use it for 1st, 2nd, 3rd dates and

    business meetings.

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    Hi, I have an accademic project presentation. Actually it is re-presentation. The first one was thrown out by the

    lecturer largly due personality clash. I wont bore you with the gorey details.

    Suffice to say I am

    resubmitting it and requested an independent accessor to be present. The project is judged purely by my

    presentation. It is going to be a tense oral exam. The examinors are going to consist of two male power brokers and

    an attractive female lecturer.

    To date I have used Liquid Trust and found it quite effective in similar

    circumstances including job interviews. Although i did not realise the effects are so short lived.

    Do you

    think I would be playing with fire if I added some Alter Ego to give me an aura of confidence along with trust?

    Considering men might be intimidated.

    I tend to signal incongruent messages when under a lot of pressure both

    relating to men and attractive women.

    I appreciate all constructive input

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    I don't know about you but it

    sounds like an important occasion to me , I'd rather lay off the none (AE) UNLESS I'm very sure of the amount that

    works well. Otherwise , You can't go wrong if you use some SOE. (with or without AE / LT)
    How about getting some

    friends together and role playing in front of them if you are feeling a bit unsure of your presentation. As you said

    , confidence is what the examiners are looking for so you need to have no doubts about what you put across , you

    must have someone that can "mentor" you for this exam and help mentally prepare you?
    'Mones will help , but you

    need to have the inner game goin' on too.
    Good luck!
    early 40's white male or or

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    Hi, I have

    an accademic project presentation. Actually it is re-presentation. The first one was thrown out by the lecturer

    largly due personality clash. I wont bore you with the gorey details.

    Suffice to say I am resubmitting it and

    requested an independent accessor to be present. The project is judged purely by my presentation. It is going to be

    a tense oral exam. The examinors are going to consist of two male power brokers and an attractive female

    lecturer.

    To date I have used Liquid Trust and found it quite effective in similar circumstances including job

    interviews. Although i did not realise the effects are so short lived.

    Do you think I would be playing with fire

    if I added some Alter Ego to give me an aura of confidence along with trust? Considering men might be

    intimidated.

    I tend to signal incongruent messages when under a lot of pressure both relating to men and

    attractive women.

    I appreciate all constructive input
    Ditto gaf's remarks. Stay away from -none

    products in professional situations.

    Not sure what you mean by the tendency to "signal incongruent messages".

    Perhaps you're confident with your work but less confident on a personal level. If so, I have that same

    "incongruity".

    gaf is right, you must have your game on. Believe in your mind that you have a powerful idea

    which is valid and important. Why else would you have spent so much hard work and time developing your thesis? You

    are the man, and "power brokers and attractive female lecturers" are simply other people who need to see your

    light. Give it to them.

    Its hard to advise on mones, but I've had huge success with SoE in business situations,

    and A1, but I use that more in social situations. SoE lasts nicely, apply to pulse points and other bare skin 1 hr

    before presentation. Maybe 6-10" overall, spread around. Repeat, discourage -none usage.

    If its the attractive

    lecturer who threw out your first presentation SoE may help, its soothing and friendly. You may want to cover it

    with a light classy cologne if its the unscented version of SoE. Even then I like to cover.

    Anything you use

    will have the most effect in close situations.

    Hope this helps,
    Greg

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    Thak you all for the prompt and helpful replies. You have all guessed correctly that i am quite confident in my

    profession. The incongruence has to do more with personal historic life long baggage and still being worked

    on.

    Interestingly the academic issue reflect these patterns. I.e. bullying and harrassment...

    There

    are a total of three male lecturers involved who rely primarily on "behind closed door" 3 against 1 assessments.

    They tried to frame me cuz I complained about their course delivery.

    The attractive female lecturer whos has

    not taken any of my subjects seems more like an unwilling accomplice.

    It's a very pathetic affair, suffice

    to say I have to a large degree managed to vindicate myself and the male power brokers are very much in retreat. The

    lecturer who threw out my project has not been teaching ( due also to similar omplaints by others) and the

    Department of Education are looking into how courses are delivered at this college. I.e. unionised teachers

    unwilling to do paper work.

    However to save the college some "face" I am being obliged to re-present that

    project.

    I am going to be faced with friends of the original lecturer (two males ) and the attractive female

    lecturer who probaly wishes she was never involved.

    I just sensed that I should some how project a dash of

    power but mainly power which comes from trust rather than arrogance.
    I.e. not to scare them.

    I know it

    must be there somewhere but I would still be very grateful if you could spell out all those

    abbreviations.

    What are "nones"
    Which SOE would you recomend me to order.?

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    Default IF it was I then A314 and LT or SOE unscented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    Thak you all for the prompt and helpful replies. You have all guessed

    correctly that i am quite confident in my profession. The incongruence has to do more with personal historic life

    long baggage and still being worked on.

    Interestingly the academic issue reflect these patterns. I.e. bullying

    and harrassment...

    There are a total of three male lecturers involved who rely primarily on "behind closed door"

    3 against 1 assessments. They tried to frame me cuz I complained about their course delivery.

    The attractive

    female lecturer whos has not taken any of my subjects seems more like an unwilling accomplice.

    It's a very

    pathetic affair, suffice to say I have to a large degree managed to vindicate myself and the male power brokers are

    very much in retreat. The lecturer who threw out my project has not been teaching ( due also to similar omplaints by

    others) and the Department of Education are looking into how courses are delivered at this college. I.e. unionised

    teachers unwilling to do paper work.

    However to save the college some "face" I am being obliged to re-present

    that project.

    I am going to be faced with friends of the original lecturer (two males ) and the attractive

    female lecturer who probaly wishes she was never involved.

    I just sensed that I should some how project a dash

    of power but mainly power which comes from trust rather than arrogance.
    I.e. not to scare them.

    I know it must

    be there somewhere but I would still be very grateful if you could spell out all those abbreviations.

    What are

    "nones"
    Which SOE would you recomend me to order.?
    If it was me in your

    position i would be wearing A314 x 2 dr on wrists and one on the chin: With 4 good sprays of LT sprayed on upper

    outer chest area of shirt immediatelly before the interveiw if possable to spray immediatelly before the gathering,

    as the LT effects dont seem to have an enduring quality.


    The

    application of Alpha314 would help to reinforce your status as a worthhile and gentlemanly like individual, and is

    an excellent product to have on hand or in your pheromone stash erum repository.


    Concerning Scent of Eros, females always seem to be receptive to its influence i have found from

    10" upward starts to elicit favourable reactions for me, or between 1/2 and 1 full gel/pkt for lasting first

    impression, can also be used with fresh application of LT for a dynamic result.


    Plz if you may keep us informed on the issue with respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    What are

    "nones"
    Which SOE would you recomend me to order.?
    Check out the phero library top right of

    page.
    simply put: 'none or none or it's full name androstenone, is the powerfull "male" pheromone that signals

    you are da man! think bad boy vibes the woman love and gets you into fights with the wrong crowd.
    Products like

    NPA , Primal Instinct , Alpha 7 use this as a main ingredient. You don't want to use this in an important meeting

    without knowing exactly what reactions you will get. I can use 1 dab , others can use 3 drops without

    overdosing.

    SOE , go for the unscented as won't clash with your cologne of choice.
    Most people report

    that 8-12 inches rolled on will do the trick.

    Good luck with the presentation!

    early 40's white male or or

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    Hey guys, I really appreciate all the help and support. Thanks. I will be ordering SOE and Alpha314 soon and keep

    you all updated...

    BTW i am not able to find any detailed ingriedient info on Alpha314 ...

    can anyone

    tell me what it contains if this is NOT a none product?

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    Here's a bit of info on alpha314

    stolen from somewhere else:

    You get 23.8mcg (micrograms) of 9 human pheromones in each drop of Alpha A314. There

    are 6,667 micrograms of pheromones total per 10ml bottle, and 10,000 mcg in the 15ml sized bottle. It's a highly

    potent product, you really don't want more than this.
    A314 does contain a small amount of androstenone in a

    propriety and carefully balanced ratio to the other 8 pheromones. A314 has not been shown to give the negative

    effects of androstenone that some competitor's products have. In fact, many have found that they can use A314 to

    decrease the negatives of other products, and increase the positives.
    early 40's white male or or

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    Okay, ummm... so bringing

    the thread back to Liquid Trust...

    Any other evaluations, either thumbs up or thumbs down, are welcome. Please

    do report in if you are an LT user.

    In the meantime I ordered some to check it out. Curiosity got the better of

    me.

    -CAt

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    Never saw any results from it.

    Went through a whole bottle. Nothing
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    same as bel.....
    Like you I was

    curious, but of all the products I've tried this is one that just didn't seem to do anything for me. (even

    following others suggestions on amount and application points yealded no results)
    early 40's white male or or

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Never saw any results from it. Went through a whole bottle. Nothing
    Hey Bel,



    Did you ever try to see if it affects you directly, by putting a drop right under your nose as others have

    suggested?

    -CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    Hey Bel,

    Did you ever try to see if it affects you directly, by putting a drop right

    under your nose as others have suggested?

    -CAt
    As i have posted

    previously i have had results with LT although not having any major consistant reports to

    mention.


    Except on the one day i did really need it to work i was lucky enough for it to come to the party

    on the occasion.


    But now that you have bought it to my attention i am going downstairs to my garage refrigerator

    and unwrap the LT take out the sprayhead and slop a good dribble of the stuff on my top lip just prior to bedtime,

    and will also apply some when my next female dinner guest arrives on the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    As i have posted previously i have had results with

    LT although not having any major consistant reports to mention.


    Except on the one day i did really need it to work i was lucky enough for it to come to the party

    on the occasion.


    But now that you have bought it to my

    attention i am going downstairs to my garage refrigerator and unwrap the LT take out the sprayhead and slop a good

    dribble of the stuff on my top lip just prior to bedtime, and will also apply some when my next female dinner guest

    arrives on the weekend.
    Well i did apply a good dribble of

    the LT to my top lip before bed and i did have some strange erotic dreams involving female persons, not my usual

    erotic type dream but the whole character and dimensions different than usual.


    I will investigate this further i may even use the remaining 10 mls up so i can hopefully post a

    result up for the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    Well i did apply a good dribble of the LT to my top

    lip before bed and i did have some strange erotic dreams involving female persons, not my usual erotic type dream

    but the whole character and dimensions different than usual.


    I

    will investigate this further i may even use the remaining 10 mls up so i can hopefully post a result up for the

    forum.
    Thanks Terry!

    We can always count on you to help experiment and report your

    results. You are a scientist and a gentleman.

    -CAt

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    I received my LT about a

    week ago and have been using it every day, either alone or with different combos.

    So far I would have to say:

    big dud. I haven't noticed any difference in the behavior of people around me. I've worn it in business situations

    as well as out dancing a few times. I use at least 6 sprays each time, much more than the recommend dose, just to

    make sure I'm wearing enough.

    I also tried putting a big drop under my nose to see if I could feel any effects,

    and other than getting light headed for about a minute as all of the alcohol evaporated into my lungs, I didn't

    notice anything much.

    And this comes from a guy who is subject to placebo effects. Usually if I'm looking for

    something I can find it.

    I will keep trying it out, but I'm doubtful.

    Any thoughts or suggestions out

    there?

    -CAt

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    I think I had

    mentioned my experiences with this product albeit briefly. Regarding the issues with the college...Well, I used LT

    during all meetings and negotiations with the college administration. Now you have to understand this by no means is

    a scientific analysis but in the ended with my credibility greater than the lecturer.

    I will qualify that by

    saying that I had fairy good case and plenty of documentation. Also the lecturer having had previous

    complaints.

    So who knows, was it LT that did it...?

    I can say that I also use LT at work with

    especially when I need my manager's help or negotiations.

    It's too bad I am lead to beleive the effects

    evaporate so quickly.

    I guess the only way to know for sure if LT is effective is to do a proper double

    blind test.

    I have just ordered Alpha 314 intending to use it with LT on the day I represent my project. I

    also ordered a bottle of unscented SOE. Would anyone recommend using a triple combination for this important

    presentation..? i.e. SOE, LT and A314..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    I

    think I had mentioned my experiences with this product albeit briefly. Regarding the issues with the college...Well,

    I used LT during all meetings and negotiations with the college administration. Now you have to understand this by

    no means is a scientific analysis but in the ended with my credibility greater than the lecturer.

    I will qualify

    that by saying that I had fairy good case and plenty of documentation. Also the lecturer having had previous

    complaints.

    So who knows, was it LT that did it...?

    I can say that I also use LT at work with especially

    when I need my manager's help or negotiations.

    It's too bad I am lead to beleive the effects evaporate so

    quickly.

    I guess the only way to know for sure if LT is effective is to do a proper double blind test.

    I

    have just ordered Alpha 314 intending to use it with LT on the day I represent my project. I also ordered a bottle

    of unscented SOE. Would anyone recommend using a triple combination for this important presentation..? i.e. SOE, LT

    and A314..
    Sounds pretty much ok, and the addition of the LT can not do any

    harm.


    Only i

    would not overshadow the Anone component of the A314 by using an excessive amount of added

    SOE.


    So as

    to keep the respected edge of the A314 intact, with a little of SOE friendly vibe displayed.



    And spray

    your shirt sleeve cuffs with the LT with at least 2 sp on each, And as close to the actual presentation time as

    possable, so as to keep it fresh and "Alive"
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    Regarding the use of LT, i am beginning to think that the emotional state with

    respect to an individuals pheromone signature may have more influence to the LT application effects than has been

    considered as a major possability regarding its success or lack of.


    It is only a thought because the times that i

    have been emotionally unstable and in need of some good maternal affection and understanding it has always seemed to

    work well for me.


    But when i have not had the genuine emotional need, then the LT has not shown me any

    results.


    Would be interesting to get the opinion some more learned persons than me on this subject.

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    opinions regarding SOE seem to be

    mixed. Is SOE a none product or not? Maybe it would be safter just to use A314 and LT for the big day. The power

    brokers on the panel are male. With the female towing the line. However over these guys is recently employed

    registrar who is female. But would not be present on the panel. but will over see the whole thing.

    I guess when I

    meet her i will go heavy on nones but for the presentation....???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    opinions regarding SOE seem to be mixed. Is SOE a none product or not? Maybe it would be

    safter just to use A314 and LT for the big day. The power brokers on the panel are male. With the female towing the

    line. However over these guys is recently employed registrar who is female. But would not be present on the panel.

    but will over see the whole thing.

    I guess when I meet her i will go heavy on nones but for the

    presentation....???
    You cant go wrong with the A314 and LT combo, even

    several inches of SOE on the chin to swing you into their books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    opinions

    regarding SOE seem to be mixed. Is SOE a none product or not? Maybe it would be safter just to use A314 and LT for

    the big day. The power brokers on the panel are male. With the female towing the line. However over these guys is

    recently employed registrar who is female. But would not be present on the panel. but will over see the whole

    thing.

    I guess when I meet her i will go heavy on nones but for the presentation....???
    A314 and/or

    LT never did much for me. SoE or Chikara or AQ would be, in my opinion, better products for that situation. I wear

    AQ most often lately when I am going to be presenting to decision makers.
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