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    Default TE makes people mad.

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    Ok, so I get

    better effects without TE I can see now. Seeing as how I'm young, I suppose I'm swimming in None so I want to

    order a product that gives me subtle masculine effects without the harshness of none. I'm looking at a few such as

    Chikara, SOE, or just plain rone in a bottle. I'm thinking Chikara is my best choice as I like the smell and it

    makes me very very happy when I wear it. In experience which would be the best for a happy, energetic mone mix with

    masculine properties but not as strong as pure none?
    "Freedom to change seems to come after acceptance of ourselves." -BT pg. 56

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    I wear TE or NPA nearly everyday

    and people never get angry around me. In fact I'm oft told I have a calming and comforting effect on them, and this

    is with or without 'mones. Of course I'm Asian and extremely skilled at controlling my persona.

    Sounds like SOE

    is the ticket for you.
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    Thanks Gegogi. It's

    cheaper too. I've heard alot of positive feedback about SOE but more Negative about Chikara. Hmm. I liked Chikara.

    It made me happy and it smelled great. SOE was best though now that I think about it.
    "Freedom to change seems to come after acceptance of ourselves." -BT pg. 56

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    I remember this one time when I

    wore about 6 sprays of sandal TE when I was playing football (soccer), but it was me who was angry. To be honest it

    might have had a similar effect on other people but I was too aggressive to notice.
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    Well that's my problem

    constantly. Girls that I know ignore me I guess because I intemidate (sp?) them too much. That's why I'm going to

    try SOE for a while as a stand alone and see what happens. If I get good results I'll combine them and see what

    happens. SOE worked well for me when I had the gel so I'm hoping the bottle will do the same.
    "Freedom to change seems to come after acceptance of ourselves." -BT pg. 56

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    I used to apply TE or NPA to my

    mustache, hoping I'd feel more angry and aggressive. It seemmed to help a little but it couldn't overcome my ultra

    laidback nature. Even when I'm all twisted I look friendly and mellow. Darn! Well, it did help make women really

    horny so that's all that really matters to me.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Default NPA on ALPHA MALE

    I am alpha

    male. Have been using NPA, for quite a period. Have never had in aggresiveness responses.

    Then again my dosage

    is 1-2 drops max. Soe 4-dabs is good balance, and negates the supposedly harshness of NPA.

    You must through,

    field testing be able to work out your outer limits. Experimenting is the key? What's a few od's in the pursuit of

    science?

    "imparting knowledge without predujice enriches ones soul"

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    woofa, you may be alpha male,

    but even alpha males can use .none, as we get older your .none production diminishes really quickly, think of the

    actor Richard Gere, the guy must be in his 50s by now, and is very alpha male according to any girl you care to ask,

    even young girls. he might have the looks and status, he might have the money, but does he have the

    androstenone????!!! unless Mr. Gere frequants this forum in disguise and buys from love scent, he most likely is

    deficient in .none. Ofcourse he probably is not deficient in women company, but do they like the way he smells??

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    In part, I'm going to dispute

    what you are saying. It depends in part on the person and on their own body. I'll be turning 50 soon and still

    cannot wear much none. Others who post here regularly and are far younger than me can. Apparently I still produce

    significant amounts. Maybe it's heriditary or maybe it's my fur coat or maybe because I have always kept myself in

    good shape or some combination of those or other factors. All I know is that wearing more than a tiny bit of none

    gets adverse reactions. Perhaps in another ten years or so that will change but not so far, it seems. The best

    advice for every user is to not assume but to do some testing to be certain what does work for them.

    Oh, I

    cleaned up your stuttering
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    TE, in my experience, makes

    people mad - and me, too.

    I once - and only once! - tried two sprays on me. My gf at the time was curious and

    put a spray on her hand. Before we got from my house to the mall (20 minutes), we were engaged. Engaged, that is,

    in one of our worst "driving fights" ever. It snipped my fuse to almost nothing, and did the same for her. I

    believe the windows were up in the car at the time.

    I have also noticed that two sprays or more will really make

    me mad and nasty. I sit in my car cursing people out in traffic, which is very unlike me, and I stew on negative

    thoughts. Interestingly enough, I am a small framed slender guy of average height - not what you'd typically think

    of as alpha male body type. Apparently I produce my fair share of 'none regardless.

    Try it with some A314. I

    have noticed that I can almost quadruple the amount of TE I wear as long as I have a decent counterbalance of A314

    on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    In part,

    I'm going to dispute what you are saying. It depends in part on the person and on their own body. I'll be turning

    50 soon and still cannot wear much none. Others who post here regularly and are far younger than me can. Apparently

    I still produce significant amounts. Maybe it's heriditary or maybe it's my fur coat or maybe because I have

    always kept myself in good shape or some combination of those or other factors. All I know is that wearing more than

    a tiny bit of none gets adverse reactions. Perhaps in another ten years or so that will change but not so far, it

    seems. The best advice for every user is to not assume but to do some testing to be certain what does work for

    them.

    Oh, I cleaned up your stuttering
    Yes it also depends on how you look like and how you act.

    I can tell you that the 50-year-old plus disciplinarian teacher I had in my school wouldn't have produced much

    -None but the way she looked (like a fearsome bull-terrier lol) and the way she could raise her voice at a

    student's indiscretion made you tremble in your shoes. Now even a dab of PI or NPA would have absolutely been over

    the top for this woman even though she most likely produces little if any -None (being a woman in her 50s).

    Now

    that was an extreme example but makes a point. I myself am a bit quiet and look dark, intense and serious anytime I

    am not talking. I am quite sure I produce little -None based on the reactions I get when not wearing pheromones (for

    example in general do not garner much respect, people not noticing when I am near them - even a little -None makes

    people notice you quickly). Now I find it hard to wear even a bit of -None regularly in every day life despite

    producing little of my own.

    Visionary

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    Good point, Visionary. Myself,

    I'm light skinned, blue eyed and usually smiling. I made it a point to use a lot of maybe's and possibly's

    because we are assuming an awful lot. I don't know what my pheromone signature is and neither does anybody else

    here.

    The real point is to experiment and test to discover what is right for you personally rather than to take

    anybody's word for it.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    An alpha male is a leader, and

    his leadership abilities go far beyond sniffing range. Sure a little A-none helps but that's the least of his

    qualifications. Also alpha male status is something hard earned. His intelligence, social skills, charisma, persona,

    appearance and body language combine together to arouse fervent popular devotion, enthusiasm and fear among those

    that dare cross him. I must say most men don't achieve alpha man status until later in life. Now I'm thinking

    George Bush, Steve Jobs, CEOs, union bosses, chief of surgery, chief of police, prosecuting attorney, etc.

    Of

    course there are plenty of alpha wantabes that put a show to impress dumb girls, but their status is short lived.

    Their position in life garners no respect. But they ain't really alpha until they achieve a leadership position.

    Otherwise, they're merely punks, lone wolves or bad boys.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    An alpha male is a

    leader, and his leadership abilities go far beyond sniffing range. Sure a little A-none helps but that's the least

    of his qualifications. Also alpha male status is something hard earned. His intelligence, social skills, charisma,

    persona, appearance and body language combine together to arouse fervent popular devotion, enthusiasm and fear among

    those that dare cross him. I must say most men don't achieve alpha man status until later in life. Now I'm

    thinking George Bush, Steve Jobs, CEOs, union bosses, chief of surgery, chief of police, prosecuting attorney,

    etc.

    Of course there are plenty of alpha wantabes that put a show to impress dumb girls, but their status is

    short lived. Their position in life garners no respect. But they ain't really alpha until they achieve a leadership

    position. Otherwise, they're merely punks, lone wolves or bad boys.
    Georgi, I agree with some of what

    your saying, but not all, you seem to suggest males become alpha males because of thier employment status, and the

    people you mentioned reflect this, I dont believe this necessary so, bieng a CEO of a company will give you some

    social status, but does not automatically make you an alpha male, a farmer or a fire man or even a bottom of the

    ladder employee has the ability to be an alpha male in thier own right, eventhough they lack responsibility in

    making very big decisions. A attorney of law can in fact be very anti seductive and very un-alpha if they come

    across as slimey and untrustworthy. I think one is defined as an alpha male when a man is very sure of himself and

    has the male quality of being strong, assertive yet sensitive to the needs of others.

    I do agree with your

    assumtion that many men tend to act Alpha, yet cannot pull it off simply because it is not in them to begin with,

    males who become Alpha males tend to become Alpha after thier 30s simply because of life experience. However even

    age does not gaurentee this male status.

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    I don't think men become alpha

    males. Rather the tendancy to be an alpha is something inside you from the day you are born. Whether you fulfill

    that is another thing altogether. Gegogi's observation that they are leaders is true...if they fulfill their

    abilities in that area. But they can be a leader in a firehouse, an auto repair shop or anywhere else.

    There are

    a lot more wannabe alphas than there are true alpha males in our society. They are usually the angry ones and the

    trouble makers who are trying to prove themselves. The true alpha doesn't have anything to prove to anybody. I

    think it is rarely the true alpha who calls himself one. Instead it is the wannabe who is trying to convince himself

    and others.
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    Bel;
    You've hit on the point, I

    couldn't agree more. Men/women don't become "alpha" because they are CEO's, they become CEO's because

    they are "alpha".

    Just because someone is "big" and mean tempored, just because they instill fear, that does not

    make them "alpha".

    And when George Bush was mentioned, I hope "daddy" Bush was who was meant, because "W" Bush is

    in no way "alpha", simply "pampered and "lucky". Now "daddy" Bush is "alpha". And Bill Gates" is "alpha" ,

    but not "big and mean".
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    I agree on the point about the

    Bush's. Baby George is no more than a figurehead doing as he is told. If anything, he would fall under the

    description of a wannabe and a bully who is mostly doing what president Cheney tells him while trying to look

    important.

    I can't honestly say I've ever met a big, mean tempered alpha. Most real leaders don't have a need

    to fight unless attacked which isn't common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    Bel;
    You've hit

    on the point, I couldn't agree more. Men/women don't become "alpha" because they are CEO's, they become CEO's

    because they are "alpha".

    Just because someone is "big" and mean tempored, just because they instill

    fear, that does not make them "alpha".

    And when George Bush was mentioned, I hope "daddy" Bush was who was

    meant, because "W" Bush is in no way "alpha", simply "pampered and "lucky". Now "daddy" Bush is "alpha". And

    Bill Gates" is "alpha" , but not "big and mean".
    My take on this is Genetics do not play in becoming

    alpha, genetics will determine sex and gender, certian instictual behaviours as a human being but that is it, the

    rest is up to the enviroment the child is born and raised into. Supporting the genetic path and born alpha path is

    also going down the path that some men become criminals by birth or some men are born prodogies. Studies indicate

    human behaviour is mostly dictated by thier enviroment they are raised in, and being an alpha male is a human

    behaviour, not a human trait. A child born into a herd of gorillas will end up comming out on the other side as a

    gorilla, at least on the behaviour level.

    m-im you hit the head on the nail, I agree, you often need to be an

    alpha male to achieve high positions like the CEO that you mentioned, however only if they acheive them by Merit. As

    in the case of George Bush Snr who is definantly alpha, the man was shot down in a war zone and come out the other

    side to become president, I humbly think he achieved alpha male status.. (who I gladly say is my neighbour in a

    little far off place of the world by the sea that I will not care to mention unless I want both the CIA or a bunch

    of crazies at my doortsep Im not kidding here either!) Anyway, otherwise you really cannot become an Alpha male

    without merit, one cannot be thrown in the situation where they can pull it off unless its in them, however it can

    be learnt and be nutured to achieve this from a very young age by parents , teacher and gaurdians, and even at an

    older age, a man can strive to be an alpha man, if he will let go some of his insecurities and self defeating

    behaviours and through wisdom.

    bel, thanks for stepping on my stuttering, this time im not stuttering, just

    mummbling....

    woofa your alpha male, if you think your alpha male, "I think therefore I am" Blade Runner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    ... "I think

    therefore I am" Blade Runner.
    Sorry, It's older than that.
    "

    [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/

    Descartesweb.jpg/180px-Descartesweb.jpg[/IMG]


    [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magn

    ify-clip.png[/IMG]

    René Descartes

    (15961650)




    "Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I am thinking, therefore

    I exist", or traditionally "I think, therefore I am") is a

    philosophical statement by

    René Descartes, which became a foundational element of

    Western

    rationalism. "Cogito ergo sum" is a

    translation of Descartes' original French statement:

    "Je pense, donc je suis", which occurs in his

    Discourse on Method

    (1637)."

    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    Sorry, It's older

    than that.
    "

    [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/

    Descartesweb.jpg/180px-Descartesweb.jpg[/IMG]


    [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magn

    ify-clip.png[/IMG]

    René Descartes

    (15961650)




    "Cogito, ergo sum" (Latin: "I am thinking,

    therefore I exist", or traditionally "I think, therefore I am") is a

    philosophical statement by

    René Descartes, which became a foundational element of

    Western

    rationalism. "Cogito ergo sum" is a

    translation of Descartes' original French statement:

    "Je pense, donc je suis", which occurs in his

    Discourse on Method (1637)."



    HEHE, I knew the quote was taken from elsewhere, holywood is not that original

    and certainly not that wise, even with thier best films!

    nice Painting, wonder how much the original is worth?

    in .mones? probably a life time supply..?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    nice Painting,

    wonder how much the original is worth? in .mones? probably a life time supply..?.
    Lifetime supply

    for all of us.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Wow. I like how one topic

    turns into another. I myself am quite alpha male. I have been since grade school. Girls knew when I was near and

    always told me how quiet and mature I was. Sometimes I try and figure out why I'm so alpha but I think it's just

    in my genes. My mom told me my father was very masculine. People listened to him, asked him for advice and what not.

    The none is just my little extra. When I go without it I don't see a difference in me but I do see a difference in

    women. Anyway, I'm ordering some SOE when my check gets here and hopefully that'll lessin the pissed off

    effects.
    "Freedom to change seems to come after acceptance of ourselves." -BT pg. 56

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    you seem to suggest males

    become alpha males because of thier employment status,
    On the contrary, I was merely giving examples of

    clean alpha males types. Employment status does not an alpha male make. However, like Bel wrote, alpha males are the

    ones with the wherewithal to assume leadership roles whether it be a sports team, music group, multinational company

    or street gang.

    However I too have never seen a true alpha act mean or agressive. They don't have to. Only

    the wantabes puff up their chests to cover their gross insecurity and lack of social status.

    Nevertheless,

    the definition of an alpha male is at its core a leader, not a stinky tough guy. And, although certain leadership

    traits are certainly genetic, most of it is learned and earned.

    I don't consider myself an alpha male.

    However I enjoy dogging and challenging those that do (probably a dangerous hobby!). Most actually lack the

    substance to be a leader but trust in their personal charisma to fool the dimwitted.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    My take on this

    is Genetics do not play in becoming alpha, genetics will determine sex and gender, certian instictual behaviours as

    a human being but that is it, the rest is up to the enviroment the child is born and raised into. Supporting the

    genetic path and born alpha path is also going down the path that some men become criminals by birth or some men are

    born prodogies. Studies indicate human behaviour is mostly dictated by thier enviroment they are raised in, and

    being an alpha male is a human behaviour, not a human trait. A child born into a herd of gorillas will end up

    comming out on the other side as a gorilla, at least on the behaviour level.

    m-im you hit the head on the nail,

    I agree, you often need to be an alpha male to achieve high positions like the CEO that you mentioned, however only

    if they acheive them by Merit. As in the case of George Bush Snr who is definantly alpha, the man was shot down in a

    war zone and come out the other side to become president, I humbly think he achieved alpha male status.. (who I

    gladly say is my neighbour in a little far off place of the world by the sea that I will not care to mention unless

    I want both the CIA or a bunch of crazies at my doortsep Im not kidding here either!) Anyway, otherwise you really

    cannot become an Alpha male without merit, one cannot be thrown in the situation where they can pull it off unless

    its in them, however it can be learnt and be nutured to achieve this from a very young age by parents , teacher and

    gaurdians, and even at an older age, a man can strive to be an alpha man, if he will let go some of his insecurities

    and self defeating behaviours and through wisdom.

    bel, thanks for stepping on my stuttering, this time im not

    stuttering, just mummbling....

    woofa your alpha male, if you think your alpha male, "I think therefore I am"

    Blade Runner.
    In another thread (Open Discussion), DrSmellThis stated that the tendancy to be a criminal

    is a defect in the workings of the brain. Hopefully, he will join us and clarify that point because I don't claim

    to be a psychologist. If my understanding of that information is correct it doesn't necessarily support my belief

    that an alpha is born but it certainly disputes your comparison about a born criminal.

    And just because a person

    believes they are something does not make them that thing, if that were the case I'd be another Rembrant or Mozart,

    depite the fact that I can't draw or hold a tune.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catlord17
    TE, in my

    experience, makes people mad - and me, too.

    I once - and only once! - tried two sprays on me. My gf at the time

    was curious and put a spray on her hand. Before we got from my house to the mall (20 minutes), we were engaged.

    Engaged, that is, in one of our worst "driving fights" ever. It snipped my fuse to almost nothing, and did the same

    for her. I believe the windows were up in the car at the time.
    That has to be one of the funniest OD

    anecdotes I've read in a long, long time.

    Not the best way to experiment with an unknown substance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    I

    remember this one time when I wore about 6 sprays of sandal TE when I was playing football (soccer), but it was me

    who was angry. To be honest it might have had a similar effect on other people but I was too aggressive to

    notice.
    LMAO!!!! I love it! One time I did an intentional OD on NPA. I also did not notice how

    other's might have been acting aggressive towards me because I was too busy feeling like I was gonna tear some lips

    of of peepz and smack them with it if they kept giving me the stink-eye.

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    its no surprise bush sr. is

    alpha male he was in the skull and bones fraternity in yell that is rooted from the free mason society
    W.Bush

    was a member that only got in cuz of daddy since he was already a fuck up kerry was in the fraternity aswell and

    they are cousin they just don't want people to know and can keep a secret since the free masons (New World Order)

    run everything from banks,mainstream media to rigging elections so that the only change will be their goals.

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    but back to the topic i have

    not used TE but will try soon since I like the price from what i know 1 spray is enuff as i am kind of a noob i have

    only tried realm chikara NPA and some SOE gel pack.

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    This thread is a distant echo

    from the past. A mere ghost and a nostalgic stroll down memory lane. Thanks. We were all so much younger and

    idealistic back then...
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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