Pheros feedback

[DrSmellThis]

I like

the way the scent lingers like a memory. I've noticed this with EOs too. Even after it totally leaves the skin my

nose (or brain) registers the scent at random times. It happened this morning 2 or 3 times before I applied it for

the day. Does this make any sense?

Yes. The reason you remember the smell so well is because of the analog

pheromones, which have corresponding places in the brain and olfactory system that have evolved to process them.



Your brain is already hard wired to process valerian root, sandalwood, almond, cumin, floral elements, benzoin,

and the musks; to name some examples. Other scents in Pheros, like real citrus and honey, are memorable

because they are processed like food.

This is why people often remark that it smells "familiar", and that they

remember vividly how it smells. The same can be said for synthetic lab pheromones, as recent research posted in this

forum suggested.

If your smell creates a lasting impression, hopefully you will too.

Commercial perfumes,

on the other hand, are made from tweaked petroleum derivatives and the like; often brand new chemicals that our

neurological/olfactory systems are not designed to process. They are going to register as strange rather than

familiar, and are going to be comparitively easy to forget.

[Guy101]

Well, I have not tried Pheros

before, but is it an oil base or what?

[DrSmellThis]

Well, I

have not tried Pheros before, but is it an oil base or what?

Alcohol and water.

[jamesdeanmartin]

Just got mine today.

Smells great. Will try it out tonight in all likelihood at the bars.

[idesign]

Your

brain is already hard wired to process valerian root, sandalwood, almond, cumin, floral elements, benzoin, and the

musks; to name some examples. Other scents in Pheros, like real citrus and honey, are memorable because they

are processed like food.

Commercial perfumes, on the other hand, are made from tweaked petroleum derivatives

and the like; often brand new chemicals that our neurological/olfactory systems are not designed to process. They

are going to register as strange rather than familiar, and are going to be comparitively easy to

forget.

Thanks Doc, this makes perfect sense.

I've been reading that EOs have such complex molecular

structures that many (or even most) oils have not even been broken down completely. It would seem that all

the constituents of any natural scent would play a role in our perception, esp at subliminal levels.

To

isolate a particular compound for its pleasure factor would eliminate the whole, which is the most amazing part.

There are some commercial frags that I really like, but I don't remember them until I put them on again.



Before I hijack another thread, my own even! I will say that Pheros is more than just a great smelling scent.

Your comment about it being more "organic" and more "like people" is just right.

And its becoming addictive.

[CAtriathlete]

I got mine today and I'm

in heaven! I love the complexity and the way it evolves over time on my skin.

I've never been a fan of scents

that had such spice notes, but this truly rocks.

Bravo!

Now I may need to get some concentrate for the

future...

-CAt

[Gorgar]

My bottle arrived today. I tried

a small sample and right away it sort of reminded me of "Old Spice". It does fade into a nice pleasant scent that I

keep sniffing, it makes me feel good. I'll be wearing it tomorrow night with a bit of Perception.

[belgareth]

Try it with SoE(u), they go

great together. I'm planning on trying mine out with AQ(u) this weekend.

[DrSmellThis]

It does

fade into a nice pleasant scent that I keep sniffing, it makes me feel good.

I've had a tendency to feel

depressed lately, and found that applying Pheros to my face like aftershave pretty much lifts my depression

away for the rest of the day. A tiny bit under the nose seems to increase the effect. Honestly, I am suprised at how

well it has been working for that. Even though I always knew it was good for mood and emotions, I was focused on

other aspects of it.

I definitely recommend people try it for mood purposes. It just occured to me all of a

sudden that the effect was pretty remarkable for that; really a sort of radical difference; like you would expect

from an antidepressant drug without the side effects. Like there is no way it could be your imagination.

I'd be

very interested to know whether others are affected in this way, to this extent.

What was most remarkable about

it for me was that the effect has been lasting, with no crash or come down; not a temporary spike in mood.

[Gone]

I like it. It reminds me of scents

from the 19th and early 20th century. Those are often my favorites, and Pheros will easily join them. It's good

to find someone still using natural oils and understanding their interactions.

Mine is separating out a bit. I

think there is too much water in the carrier. Perhaps a higher concentration of alcohol for the carrier would be

better. I was considering moving it to a spray bottle but I won't because this separation requires shaking before

use and that wouldn't mix the oils in the spray tube.

[Tiger4]

I have

to admit that when I first smelled the pheros I was disappointed. It smelled rather familiar, like some scented oils

I remembered smelling somewhere. I then put some behind the ears and on my neck and could not smell a thing on me,

so I put on a little more. Later that day, something strange happened. I went to the grocery store and was asking

myself "what is that smell?" (forgetting that I had the pheros on). Then it occured to me that it was the pheros on

me. The scent smelled a little richer than it did from the bottle. It didn't seem like a very strong scent at

first, but I could smell it on me later in the day. Maybe others can smell it on me even better?

[DrSmellThis]

I like it.

It reminds me of scents from the 19th and early 20th century. Those are often my favorites, and Pheros will easily

join them. It's good to find someone still using natural oils and understanding their interactions.

Mine is

separating out a bit. I think there is too much water in the carrier. Perhaps a higher concentration of alcohol for

the carrier would be better. I was considering moving it to a spray bottle but I won't because this separation

requires shaking before use and that wouldn't mix the oils in the spray tube.

I'm glad you appreciate an

old school approach.

Yep, the separating out of the ingredients is something I'd prefer not happen.

It

could have been prevented if I'd used just alcohol as the carrier, as you suggest. Indeed, there is no separation

in Pheros Concentrate, for the reason that it lacks the water. However, when I tried different ratios of

water and alcohol, and tested them on volunteers, the ones with more water turned out better.

I concluded,

Fernando Lamas-like, that it was better for a perfume to smell good than to look good.

[Tiger4]

More

experimentation is needed, but it seems as though the pheros brings on depression with me. I was wondering if any

A1 is in it.

I definitely recommend people try it for mood purposes. It just

occured to me all of a sudden that the effect was pretty remarkable for that; really a sort of radical difference;

like you would expect from an antidepressant drug without the side effects.
I'd be very interested to know

whether others are affected in this way, to this extent.

[nbnbtc]

Pheros, old batch, always made me

happily sleepy. Never depressed. I hope the current Pheros is more of the same!

[DrSmellThis]

More experimentation is needed, but it seems as though the pheros

brings on depression with me. I was wondering if any A1 is in it.

Judging from the history of pheromone

use discussed on the forum over the years, there are insufficient amounts of any one lab pheromone in Pheros

for any single lab pheromone to cause a depressive reaction; like 1/100 of the level of other products.

Wearing

any normal androstenone product will probably result in more than that converting to A1 on your skin; and you have

quite a lot of A1 on your skin already due to nature.

But it's possible you could react negatively to one of

the essential oils, like having a sensitivity.

The stuff affects me and most others in the opposite way, as far

as I can tell. But anything that is psychoactive, because of aromatherapy or whatever, has the potential for

differing effects in different people, due to individual differences.

It's possible that something other than

Pheros is causing you to have low mood, I'm assuming.

But it's also very possible that this "side

effect", if it is actually somehow due to Pheros, will go away on its own; or that it could be different if

your body conditions change in the future.

Nevertheless, if you continue to get depressed wearing it, I'd

sugggest discontinuing use, and sending the product back for a refund.