New comvert requesting for advice from pros

[Rbt]

(I did take

the opportunity for a sneaky sideways peek at her figure - she smiled to herself so her peripheral vision might be

good ).

Women seem to have a natural inborn talent/ability to read men's minds that

way...

They KNOW when you are checking them out.

That ability can work against them though as I think some

naturally assume men can do the same to them, when in fact we can't, so we guys have a tendency to miss some of the

subtle sexual cues women give. Unfortunately we have to work to train ourselves to detect them. I still kick myself

for realizing too long after the fact that a woman was sending out Indicators of Interest (IoI's).

Waaaaaaa.......

[chas]

we guys have a

tendency to miss some of the subtle sexual cues women give. Unfortunately we have to work to train ourselves to

detect them.

You wouldn't care to share these clues with less experienced folk - plz, plz ?

Re.

IoI's - I've missed two sets sigh - can I go back in time ??

[Rbt]

^ I'm pretty sure that there are a

number of threads here already on the subject. Do a search for IOI (or similar) and see what comes up.

[kevio]

I work in an asian community as

well. Also all of my co-workers are female.

one drop of a314 is enough for a day.
Only 10" of SoE is doing fine

for me.

But if I use them together, there is no reaction at all.

overdosing on anything isn't a good idea

since they have a "certain" smell on it.

If the smell is too strong, no matter how good that is, it's a big turn

off.

[fedup]

I work in an

asian community as well. Also all of my co-workers are female.

one drop of a314 is enough for a day.
Only 10" of

SoE is doing fine for me.

But if I use them together, there is no reaction at all.

overdosing on anything

isn't a good idea since they have a "certain" smell on it.

If the smell is too strong, no matter how good that

is, it's a big turn off.

I totally agree. This is why I am seeking help from the experienced forumers on

how to use these products effectively, hopefully to be able to obtain a mix that is close to my target group instead

of months of experimenting with potentially no positive results. Unfortunately pheromones are more “hit and

miss” rather than “the more the merrier”. It is really fortunate that there is such an active

forum here.

Some additional questions though.

Can I add any of the other products I have currently

to make my mix more potent?

Any recommended products I should buy to make a more potent mix?

I am

looking to make a spray-on mix. I understand there are oil based ones that do not mix well withalcohol-based

products. Any recommended mixes based on my situation?

Are pheromones supposed to be applied on top of cover

scents or under (‘mones first then cover scent on top) it?

Thanks in advance for all the help

provided.

[Rbt]

I totally agree.

This is why I am seeking help from the experienced forumers on how to use these products effectively, hopefully to

be able to obtain a mix that is close to my target group instead of months of experimenting with potentially no

positive results. Unfortunately pheromones are more “hit and miss” rather than “the more the merrier”. It is really

fortunate that there is such an active forum here.

Some additional questions though.

Can I add any of the

other products I have currently to make my mix more potent?

"Potency" depends on too many factors.

What you want is "effectiveness," which is also dependent on many factors, and that is quite a different thing.

Honestly, you are probably just going to have to expect to spend the time, however long it takes, to find the "sweet

spot" that works for you.

Any recommended products I should buy to make a more potent mix?



What you list above in OP is already a pretty strong bunch of stuff. The only thing I might add

would be androsedienone (A1).

I am looking to make a spray-on mix. I understand there are oil based

ones that do not mix well withalcohol-based products. Any recommended mixes based on my situation?

Are

pheromones supposed to be applied on top of cover scents or under (‘mones first then cover scent on top) it?



There have been discussions on this in the past, and apparently no one is really sure. Arguments

both ways. *Generally* the vote seems to be for fragrance on top. The one exception that comes to mind is if you use

Perception, as it's
extened release" formula only works if it's applied on top of anything else.



Thanks in advance for all the help provided.

Just my personal opinions.

[idesign]

"Potency" is not the issue with

synthetic pheromones like we're using. Think more of an "appropriate" application or mix. Subtlety is what you

want to shoot for, since these products are many times what your body produces, thus many times what your "target"

is used to dealing with.

I strongly advise against "mixing" as opposed to "layering", unless you want to spend a

huge amount of time mixing very small batches that may or may not work for you. Layering allows you experiment

infinitely until you get what you think might be your sweet spot. Others may disagree and have other methods, but 2

years into my pheromone usage I'm still tweaking my applications to meet whatever function I'm headed for. I do

have a couple of standard blends, but still I vary the amounts depending on my mood and the expected venue.

Smell

and effectiveness are separate issues. You want to wear the least amount of pheromones that work in your

circumstances, and the least amount of cover scent necessary, to keep from smelling like a lounge lizard.

You

have to experiment and choose wisely in both cases, and there is no substitute for experience, sorry.

The upside

is that the whole process of learning is a HUGE amount of fun. You get to learn a lot about social dynamics,

attraction, scent and, most importantly, yourself, if you pay attention.

[kevio]

I first started improving my

posture and confidence. The importance is how to portray your "alpha"s side.

Please read PUA guide. It

helps.

When I finished those books, I used pheromone to help me on the "edge".

[chas]

^ I'm pretty

sure that there are a number of threads here already on the subject. Do a search for IOI (or similar) and see what

comes up.

There is also a good summary of IOIs at 'the other place' - 'The Master "Indicators of

Interest List" '.

[fedup]

After reading some of the posts

in this forum, i have decided to tone down the 'rone, settling on 2 dabs of TE and about 18" or SOE. Still no

positive results yet... will experiment further and report back.

[fedup]

Let me apologise first for the

multiple posts, longer posts do seem to take much longer to upload than short posts, especially here in the office,

thus i am breaking up my posts into shorter ones.

From what i have experienced so far, females with more

dominant personalities seem to be affected more by pheromones. Is it true or are they just less shy to act on their

inhibitions?

[belgareth]

I think they are just less shy.

In my experience almost all women are going to be affected by the more self confident ones are going to show it more

often. Watch for silent clues in body language. Hair flipping is a classic but I don't rely on that much. Eye

contact, flushing, frequent glances, position and posture are more certain clues.

[fedup]

Last few questions.. Which

product is most likely to consistently produce DIHLs?

Are DIHLs the most obvious IOI's?

From what i

understand pheromones should not be able to affect targets from a distance, and in a short span of time (this i am

not sure). In this case, will passing by a potential target cause them to be attracted to you instantly?