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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Chas, in

    Sicily its called the "The Thunderbolt"
    There's no accounting for the power which exists when certain men meet

    certain women.
    That's interesting ID, I hadn't heard of the 'Thunderbolt' before (apart from being a

    WW2 fighter ...) Do you have links with Sicily ?

    My DIHL caught me unawares as I had already sat next to this

    woman for a couple of days & spoken to her quite normally.

    (I did take the opportunity for a sneaky sideways

    peek at her figure - she smiled to herself so her peripheral vision might be good ).


    But when she sat

    opposite me & her full gaze looked at me I felt powerless & like a small 'rabbit in the headlights'. It took me

    some will power to regain control. May be she was a 'white witch' - or perhaps she was using a powerful L-S Edge

    for Women 'mone ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas View Post
    (I did take

    the opportunity for a sneaky sideways peek at her figure - she smiled to herself so her peripheral vision might be

    good ).

    Women seem to have a natural inborn talent/ability to read men's minds that

    way...

    They KNOW when you are checking them out.

    That ability can work against them though as I think some

    naturally assume men can do the same to them, when in fact we can't, so we guys have a tendency to miss some of the

    subtle sexual cues women give. Unfortunately we have to work to train ourselves to detect them. I still kick myself

    for realizing too long after the fact that a woman was sending out Indicators of Interest (IoI's).

    Waaaaaaa.......
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    we guys have a

    tendency to miss some of the subtle sexual cues women give. Unfortunately we have to work to train ourselves to

    detect them.
    You wouldn't care to share these clues with less experienced folk - plz, plz ?

    Re.

    IoI's - I've missed two sets sigh - can I go back in time ??

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    ^ I'm pretty sure that there are a

    number of threads here already on the subject. Do a search for IOI (or similar) and see what comes up.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    I work in an asian community as

    well. Also all of my co-workers are female.

    one drop of a314 is enough for a day.
    Only 10" of SoE is doing fine

    for me.

    But if I use them together, there is no reaction at all.

    overdosing on anything isn't a good idea

    since they have a "certain" smell on it.

    If the smell is too strong, no matter how good that is, it's a big turn

    off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    I work in an

    asian community as well. Also all of my co-workers are female.

    one drop of a314 is enough for a day.
    Only 10" of

    SoE is doing fine for me.

    But if I use them together, there is no reaction at all.

    overdosing on anything

    isn't a good idea since they have a "certain" smell on it.

    If the smell is too strong, no matter how good that

    is, it's a big turn off.
    I totally agree. This is why I am seeking help from the experienced forumers on

    how to use these products effectively, hopefully to be able to obtain a mix that is close to my target group instead

    of months of experimenting with potentially no positive results. Unfortunately pheromones are more “hit and

    miss” rather than “the more the merrier”. It is really fortunate that there is such an active

    forum here.

    Some additional questions though.

    Can I add any of the other products I have currently

    to make my mix more potent?

    Any recommended products I should buy to make a more potent mix?

    I am

    looking to make a spray-on mix. I understand there are oil based ones that do not mix well withalcohol-based

    products. Any recommended mixes based on my situation?

    Are pheromones supposed to be applied on top of cover

    scents or under (‘mones first then cover scent on top) it?

    Thanks in advance for all the help

    provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedup View Post
    I totally agree.

    This is why I am seeking help from the experienced forumers on how to use these products effectively, hopefully to

    be able to obtain a mix that is close to my target group instead of months of experimenting with potentially no

    positive results. Unfortunately pheromones are more “hit and miss” rather than “the more the merrier”. It is really

    fortunate that there is such an active forum here.

    Some additional questions though.

    Can I add any of the

    other products I have currently to make my mix more potent?

    "Potency" depends on too many factors.

    What you want is "effectiveness," which is also dependent on many factors, and that is quite a different thing.

    Honestly, you are probably just going to have to expect to spend the time, however long it takes, to find the "sweet

    spot" that works for you.


    Any recommended products I should buy to make a more potent mix?



    What you list above in OP is already a pretty strong bunch of stuff. The only thing I might add

    would be androsedienone (A1).


    I am looking to make a spray-on mix. I understand there are oil based

    ones that do not mix well withalcohol-based products. Any recommended mixes based on my situation?

    Are

    pheromones supposed to be applied on top of cover scents or under (‘mones first then cover scent on top) it?



    There have been discussions on this in the past, and apparently no one is really sure. Arguments

    both ways. *Generally* the vote seems to be for fragrance on top. The one exception that comes to mind is if you use

    Perception, as it's
    extened release" formula only works if it's applied on top of anything else.




    Thanks in advance for all the help provided.

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    "Potency" is not the issue with

    synthetic pheromones like we're using. Think more of an "appropriate" application or mix. Subtlety is what you

    want to shoot for, since these products are many times what your body produces, thus many times what your "target"

    is used to dealing with.

    I strongly advise against "mixing" as opposed to "layering", unless you want to spend a

    huge amount of time mixing very small batches that may or may not work for you. Layering allows you experiment

    infinitely until you get what you think might be your sweet spot. Others may disagree and have other methods, but 2

    years into my pheromone usage I'm still tweaking my applications to meet whatever function I'm headed for. I do

    have a couple of standard blends, but still I vary the amounts depending on my mood and the expected venue.

    Smell

    and effectiveness are separate issues. You want to wear the least amount of pheromones that work in your

    circumstances, and the least amount of cover scent necessary, to keep from smelling like a lounge lizard.

    You

    have to experiment and choose wisely in both cases, and there is no substitute for experience, sorry.

    The upside

    is that the whole process of learning is a HUGE amount of fun. You get to learn a lot about social dynamics,

    attraction, scent and, most importantly, yourself, if you pay attention.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    ^ I'm pretty

    sure that there are a number of threads here already on the subject. Do a search for IOI (or similar) and see what

    comes up.
    There is also a good summary of IOIs at 'the other place' - 'The Master "Indicators of

    Interest List" '.

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    After reading some of the posts

    in this forum, i have decided to tone down the 'rone, settling on 2 dabs of TE and about 18" or SOE. Still no

    positive results yet... will experiment further and report back.

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    Let me apologise first for the

    multiple posts, longer posts do seem to take much longer to upload than short posts, especially here in the office,

    thus i am breaking up my posts into shorter ones.

    From what i have experienced so far, females with more

    dominant personalities seem to be affected more by pheromones. Is it true or are they just less shy to act on their

    inhibitions?

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