Dhea

[Tester123]

I've heard they're trying to

outlaw DHEA. If so, it's a damn shame. We should have the ability to make our own decisions about supplements.

Ephedra was outlawed because a few individuals who did not heed precautions died usually due to having other health

conditions in addition to not heeding warnings. Yet ephedra has an incredible safety record, much better than the

pills prescribed by doctors. I wonder how much the pharmaceutical companies push for this type of

legislation.

[Gone]

I do like

Doc's recommendation of 5mcg per day/or when needed, but it's said to be hard to find the 5mcg tablets. Idesign's

25 mcg 3 to f4 times a week sounds like the next best thing.

Any pharmacy should have pill splitters.

They consist of a razor blade in a little holder and are made to split tablets. If you get the common 25 mg DHEA

tablets, splitting them into 4 will give you about 5mg. You do lose a little due to crumbling when you split a

tablet.

I've heard they're trying to outlaw DHEA...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-762



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1249

[belgareth]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-762



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1249

Looks like it is dead. It may be

brought up again but in almost a year nothing has happened.

[idesign]

Looks

like it is dead. It may be brought up again but in almost a year nothing has happened.

These

"anti-supplement" bills come up all the time, and never pass. I don't know if its the lobby or common sense which

kills them.

It would definitely be bad to regulate natural supplements. I need them to counteract my unhealthy

lifestyle.

There are several supplements that I "cycle". DHEA is one of them. 3-4 days on, 3-4 days off,

when I remember to take them at all...

[belgareth]

Other than a daily vitamin I

rarely take supplements. Have tried a few here and there, the only one I felt was worthwhile is a product called

restore. It has an estrogen antagonist and a testosterone booster, both natural. The issue I have with DHEA is that

it boosts your testosterone which can convert to estrogen, especially in us older guys. I already have enough

trouble, and always have, with a stomach that wants to grow. Increased estrogen would make matters worse. Only a lot

of exercise keeps that in check as it is.

[idesign]

I notice a huge benefit from

natural supplements, and I've found a vitamin supplement that focuses on natural sources. Its expensive, but I

notice a difference.

Didn't know that about DHEA (estrogen). I don't have a stomach problem, but I don't want

to grow D-cups either. Have to look into this...

[MOBLEYC57]

Didn't

know that about DHEA (estrogen). I don't have a stomach problem, but I don't want to grow D-cups

either. Have to look into this...

That's pretty much the risk with most test-boosting

supplements. Still ... your body will tell you, in this case, I think, when you are taking too much or it's not for

you ... i.e. sagging chest, or as Bel said, more belly fat. Just like the mones ... what does it for one may not do

it for another.

[Bruce]

I have been taking DHEA and Tribulus

together for years. Seems to work, but the best solution is to work out hard, feel the burn, keep the abs hard and

all that stuff. I read once that testosterone is converted to estrogen *in abdominal fat*! If that is true, than

it's a double whammy. Estrogen causes fat and fat causes estrogen. Whoa.

I have been sort of a supplement

junkie for years, and I'm in the process of evaluating my approach. It got to the point where I was taking a

handful of pills with every meal. I had some food allergy test last summer and avoiding the foods on that list has

helped me more than all the pills I was taking.

B

[DrSmellThis]

Other

than a daily vitamin I rarely take supplements. Have tried a few here and there, the only one I felt was worthwhile

is a product called restore. It has an estrogen antagonist and a testosterone booster, both natural. The issue I

have with DHEA is that it boosts your testosterone which can convert to estrogen, especially in us older guys. I

already have enough trouble, and always have, with a stomach that wants to grow. Increased estrogen would make

matters worse. Only a lot of exercise keeps that in check as it is.

I found a great natural product that

keeps estrogen in check (literally helps metabolize already existing estrogen). It's changed names over the years,

but used to be called "indolplex." I think it might be called "ripped mass" now, or some such bodybuilding name.

With these terms I am just speaking of the best brand (best quality and concentration for the best price) from my

research.

I searched for years for a natural product that would do this, and finally found this one.



The chemical is indole-3-carbinol, also known as "DIM" in complex form.

It's derived from broccoli. Only

problem is it's not cheap.

Even enhances natural pheromones, in my experience.

Doesn't prevent E from

forming, only helps metabolize any excess. So it doesn't mess with your hormones much, unlike most other

approaches. But even one dose can help E-related symptoms (retaining water, breast tissue, etc, etc).

[belgareth]

Interesting, Doc. Thanks, I'll

give it a look.

[gaf]

I found a

great natural product that keeps estrogen in check (literally helps metabolize already existing estrogen). It's

changed names over the years, but used to be called "indolplex." I think it might be called "ripped mass" now, or

some such bodybuilding name. With these terms I am just speaking of the best brand (best quality and concentration

for the best price) from my research.

Would this be the product , Dr

?
http://tinyurl.com/3ykzc9
or
http://tinyurl.com/3x5x2l