tobeornotobe. Man i know your only trying to help out; Although i realize this, can you refrain from giving advice to other newbies. When you give out advice that you have no personel eperiece to back up. It starts these damn spirals of newbies giving bad advice. After using products such as the edge for close to three years i know for a fact that 6 dabs is no an OD. I know from my pheromone eperience people OD at different levels. But 6 davs of TE is not an OD. I have gotten laid at OD levels. I still conted that its the ability of you to make the girl comfortable. Only the most aggressive girls will make the first move. The other girls you have to put at ease. Its not the \"OD\" scarying the girls away its you!