Sex and Mones

[Guy101]

Thank you CAT. So the products

that have already A1 in them like NPA, TE, & Pheromax & maybe AQ, & C7

I notice that when I use NPA women get

sexually aroused & at the same time tend to speak a lot.

[terry0400-40]

Thank

you CAT. So the products that have already A1 in them like NPA, TE, & Pheromax & maybe AQ, & C7

I notice that

when I use NPA women get sexually aroused & at the same time tend to speak a lot.

Guy. hey there good thinking 99 ha ha .

Now that you bring it up i recon you could

have been right with those products containing A1 maby it is the secret ingredient that is going in to the

formulas.

They may be adding their own little secret amounts of the stuff.

I am glad there is some feedback coming in

from Cat and others regarding this subject as it is very interesting and it has me considering ordering some A1 so

as to do some of my own experimentation.



There is always room for improvements and tweaks to even our best surmised

mixes as i see it.

So really appreciate the great feedback with sincere thanks.

[CAtriathlete]

Yeah, I'm not sure people

realize that the makers of Pheromax have exclusive patented rights to use A1 in any combination formulas, so anyone

else who uses it can only use it as an unlisted ingredient.

A1 is special stuff. IMHO, there is no better mone

in the intimate zone. And even if you don't use it on a regular basis to mellow out the effects of -none, it's a

critical tool to soothe any woman during that time of the month.

-CAt

[stuttgart-man]

Yeah, I'm not sure people realize that the makers of Pheromax have exclusive patented

rights to use A1 in any combination formulas, so anyone else who uses it can only use it as an unlisted

ingredient.

A1 is special stuff. IMHO, there is no better mone in the intimate zone. And even if you don't use

it on a regular basis to mellow out the effects of -none, it's a critical tool to soothe any woman during that time

of the month.

-CAt

Hi Cat,

I´m a litle bit confused! Is it allowed to add A1 if this incredient

is not listed on the product? I´ve no many knowledge in patency, but is not alone the fact, that a product contains

A1 (even this one is not listed) a breach of the patency-rules?

Do you sure, that NPA contains A1? I have never

tried NPA, but often TE! And this one (especially in combination with SOE) is a excellent mix, that hardly can

improved! So perhaps I use A1 without to know it!?

[CAtriathlete]

Hi Cat,

I´m a litle bit confused! Is it allowed to add A1 if this incredient is not

listed on the product? I´ve no many knowledge in patency, but is not alone the fact, that a product contains A1

(even this one is not listed) a breach of the patency-rules?

Do you sure, that NPA contains A1? I have never

tried NPA, but often TE! And this one (especially in combination with SOE) is a excellent mix, that hardly can

improved! So perhaps I use A1 without to know it!?

Good questions! I do not know much about patent law.

I suspect that it is against the patent to use A1 even if it is not listed, but at this point I doubt it is worth

the time and money of the makers of Pheromax to go after these small companies.

I reviewed the patent again, and

noticed it is over ten years old. I wonder if it has expired, in which case I don't know why more products

wouldn't include it in the product listing.

The patent info is

here:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=qwU...ndrostadienone

I don't think anyone (except

the manufacturers) knows if NPA or TE contains A1 for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Anybody have any more

definitive info about the use of A1?

-CAt

[WorkingMann]

CAT I don't think they can

be the only one who are allowed to use it in mixes and tell it in the ingredient list..
Look at this

link:

[url]http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-skeptic16jul16,1,740671.story?coll=la-headlines-health[/u

rl]

Drugstores also sell tubes of (Name hidden because of rules)hair gel for men, containing

androstadienone, for about $6

but again..I also found

this:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1485
so you may anyway prove to be right..

But

the reason for I made this post was because I believe I had searched AromaSciences homepage and found somewhere they

mentioned Androstadienone.. But I can't seem to find it now but I think it was when I sought for Dr. Dodd but I

can't find what I remember (even though it wasn't that long ago).
So when I can't prove anything I'm not gonna

say you're wrong..

[Mtnjim]

If I remember correctly the patten

says manufacturers can't add it to a scented product.

[CAtriathlete]

CAT I don't think they can be the only one who are allowed to use it in mixes and tell

it in the ingredient list..
Look at this link:



http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...adlines-health



Drugstores also sell tubes of (Name hidden because of rules)hair gel for men, containing

androstadienone, for about $6

but again..I also found

this:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1485
so you may anyway prove to be right..

But

the reason for I made this post was because I believe I had searched AromaSciences homepage and found somewhere they

mentioned Androstadienone.. But I can't seem to find it now but I think it was when I sought for Dr. Dodd but I

can't find what I remember (even though it wasn't that long ago).
So when I can't prove anything I'm not gonna

say you're wrong..

I think their patent covers perfumes and the like, but not hair gels. And I thought

I read that there are a few other companies that pay the Pheromax company for the rights to use it in their

products. In any case, it's a complicated issue, and there's no knowing what the secret ingredients are in these

products. And since I think A1 is such an important ingredient, I want to make sure I am using it and not hope that

it is a secret ingredient.

That's why I only use products which have listed ingredients and their amounts (A7,

SOE, A1). IMHO, it's the only way to really figure out the mone proportions that work best for you. But that's

just my approach.

-CAt