Any news on a release date?
Any news on a release date?
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
No news yet, though there has
been some progress. The first shipment will go out very soon.
I do have a question, though.
I'm just
exploring how I feel about selling concentrate.
I'd construct a poll if I could remember how to do it. Is there
still a poll function? Unless I can figure that out, it's going to be really cumbersome to find out how people
feel.
But I'm curious how many would definitely buy the concentrate in the bottom of
the Pheros bottle without additional water. It's basically mostly alcohol and the essences. You'd be able
to add your own water (though the water wouldn't be preconditioned). If I did it that way Bruce wouldn't have as
much extra hassle or have to change the price.
It wouldn't be as useful as is in that form, since it would be
too strong, and since the water does add nice qualities (e.g., smoothness).
If a lot of people would, I'd have
a discussion with Bruce about it, and figure out how we felt.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Hi Doc, nice
to see you,
I think our main question would be what benefit is there in having the concentrate. I think there
was some discussion on this earlier. I think Belwith has an ancient bottle that has kept well.
-- Will the
concentrate keep better in the long term? Say 2-3 or more years?
-- How big a deal is it mixing with the
preconditioned water? It would certainly help in the initial blend. Would there be any serious compromise mixing
it later with distilled water?
-- Can you provide detailed instructions for future mixing? IE a little sheet
detailing procedure.
I'm sure that we'll all buy the, excuse the retail lingo, ready-to-wear product. If
there's a longer term benefit to having some concentrate there may be some who might want to go this route.
If
there's no real benefit to having the concentrate I'm not sure its worth the trouble to you or to Bruce.
I'd
be happy to to a poll.
Greg
Ooops, in my experimenting the
poll is already up. Hope I can change it if I need to.
Thanks much, idesign!
Looks good, except could you please just take out all alternatives but the one to buy the concentrate? I'm just
looking for a straight "head count".
Thanks again in advance.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Ah Pheros, I can almost smell it
in the air now...
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
The first shipment of
Pheros goes out tomorrow, which is Monday.
Included in that shipment are 18 bottles of Pheros
Concentrate, based on feedback from forum members who expressed interest. (Hear that, Oscar?)
I will provide
more details soon.
Thanks everybody for your patience, and interest in the perfume. I will explain more about
the process soon.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Congrats Doc on getting the product out. I have no doubt that your own
patience, and hard work, will reap new and renewed fans.
I suppose this is as good a time and place as any to ask
Bruce what his plans are re sales of the concentrate. The Forum Club to start with? Perhaps an
indication of tentative availability date? You there Bruce?
Now that its shipped, patience has now officially
been replaced with panting.
Pheros is on the way!
Thanks again, everybody, for your kind interest.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
It's "in the mail". I'll keep you
posted; maybe get a pre-sale order spot up this evening.
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OK Guys,
I have Pheros up for
"advance sales", meaning you can order it now and it will ship as soon as the shippment arrives. As for the
concentrate, what I propose is that concentrate customers order just like those who want the regular Pheros, adding
the phrase "PLEASE SEND ME THE **CONCENTRATE** VERSION" in the "comments" box of your order. As I remember, Doc
said the concentrate would be the same price; so that system should work.
There aren't too many of those conc
bottles, so let's say "ONE PER CUSTOMER" on the concentrate for now, ok?
Thanks forlks, and thanks
DrSmellThis!
Bruce
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
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Yes, there is a very small amount, a trace amount, of all the EW/Jutte
copulins in Pheros, along with the other major known pheromones. Even the "mystery ingredient" in NPA for
Women is in there, for that matter, as nasty as that stuff smells by itself.
Why? I think it humanizes it; makes
it more friendly; makes it more organic, and "animalistic". But it makes the musk notes more like human musk
instead of a non human animal, making sure that the human specific chemicals are part of the mindboggling complex of
real mammalian pheromones in the natural musks. That was the idea I had many years ago, before there were pheromone
forums, when I first started experimenting with analog pheromones and mammalian musks.
Perfumers did not have
the capability to do that before; and to me it's an important untapped use of the technology. It's a completely
different use of pheromones than you're used to, philosophically speaking. As far as I know, no one else has
previously employed pheromones in this way (although it now appears another company I'm not permitted to name has
been influenced by this idea to some extent, even to the point of registering my oft used phrase "human musk" as
their trademark ).
Does that have any downside? I don't know, and I can't guarantee that it doesn't.
But I've never heard of, and have not observed, any of the traditional negative copulin side effects from the
product.
It's definitely not going to scream "I've just cheated on you". But it might say you've been laid
before, and bring out the bisexual side of some women. If it's your wife, I think the copulins are just going to
suggest that it's her own pheromones on you, because they are not strong enough to suggest something unique and
different -- another woman.
In other words, and more scientifically speaking; every woman has at least
trace amounts of all those fatty acids on them, at all times. Larger amounts would have suggested the profile of an
ovulating woman, specifically; or a unique woman, in general.
For that matter, men certainly produce trace
amounts of many copulins as well, including some of the fatty acids that were added to Pheros. Do you see?
At the levels I added all the different pheromones, really the only chemical message you're sending is that this
is the smell of a great smelling human being, instead of a great smelling perfume, or a chemical
factory in the case of whatever other chemicals you are wearing with Pheros.
This is part of the reason
I believe Pheros has a role; a unique niche to fill. I personally feel it's a geat thing to have in your
arsenal of tools.
Fortunately or unfortunately, this product is too "sophisticated" to explain its benefits with
simple marketing slogans. So does all that make sense?
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DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Doc, having said all that, would
you discourage using other -mone products layered with Pheros? I suppose that as with any other product
experimentation yields results, but since Pheros is a one-time opportunity, we don't want to waste it.
How do
YOU use Pheros?
Pheros worked extremely well to
cover mones for me. I used it a lot, it's great as a cover.
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Thanks, Doc for the great
explanation.
Really appreciated..
Let the advance orders
begin!!!
I have a special request, as I am low on funds and have to be very selective about my purchases: As
soon as anyone gets their order of this batch of Pheros, can you let us know if it is a great batch?
And maybe
Dr. Smell can ring in on how he would rate this batch compared to other legendary batches of Pheros he's
produced?
I suppose i can return it if I don't like it, but would like to avoid the trouble for both me and
Bruce.
Thanks!
-CAt
The batch was made from old stock of ultra concentrated Pheros.
I had not opened the jug of it in quite some time, as it was stored away for posterity.
In my opinion -- and
I'm relieved to be able to say this -- it smells as good now as it ever did, if not better. It's a tad mellower,
but the longevity on your skin is very good, for a natural perfume.
Others will have their own opinions. Perhaps
I should keep my mouth shut.
But there were things I did in the bottling process to account for how the perfume
had aged, to maximise the quality for this particular bottling. Those steps appear to have accomplished what they
were intended to. The final resuls were pretty much what I hoped and expected them to be.
That doesn't mean
any one particular person will like it. No perfume works for every one. If you are wed to the modern, citrusy,
"young", hip, summery scents, for example, this product probably isn't for you.
I personally prefer earthier,
woodier, spicier, and muskier scents, like Pheros. For our purposes here, I think it's more blatantly sexual
and romantic smelling than department store fragrances.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Pheros is intended to be used with other pheromones, and
works great as a cover scent, like Bel says. It is meant to enhance the performance of your pheromones, by rounding
out, humanizing, and filling up your signature. You get the added benefits of natural musks, analog pheromones, and
trace amounts of many of the known laboratory pheromones.
As a cover scent, the longevity is good, so you don't
get as much bleed through after a couple hours as with other cover scents. Plus, the scent of Pheros goes
with, and dare I say enhances, the smell of pheromones.
I use it like a staple, as cologne, aftershave, and even
deodorant (Most perfumes you can't do this with, but Pheros is designed to blend with your body chemistry.).
It's a great enhancement to practices where people try to maximize their natural bodily pheromones, because it
goes so well with the body's natural smells compared to other colognes. You can use it like you would use
sandalwood.
That means you can use it as a base for other colognes as well, in small quantities.
A few dabs
works great to cover up other Pheromone products that might have a cheezy cologne, or stink because of the
pheromones themselves.
I go through the stuff pretty fast, because I slather it on. I also put it around and on
my face to enhance my mood. It's good for your skin, since it's natural and light on the alcohol. This stuff, I
think, is the best mood enhancer for yourself, out of all the pheromone products available on this or "the
other site" (TAA/Shine, etc) That is just my opinion. But you are getting a ton of aromatherapy benefits, and they
are long lasting, broad-based and natural, not based on one specific chemical in a high dose.
But it is just as
good, and more economical to use four dabs on your regular cologne spots.
For the purposes of obtaining a
romantic/sexual partner, or enhancing romance/sex, I do think there is a point of diminishing returns with quantity.
So you probably want to start light and work up, like with any other product. I'd start with four dabs just to get
a sense for it.
Personlly, I like the effects on myself so much, I often don't care about how it effects
others. There is a small addictive quality to it or something -- picture Gollum in Lord of the Rings -- where I
can't stop putting it on. So I wear more than the optimal dose for romance. I recommend others consider restraint,
since this is the last batch.
Secret recipe revealed: If you want a change of pace, use it with a dab of
pure jasmine EO, which yields the new variety of Pheros I would have sold if I had enough product. If I was
going to sell it, I surely wouldn't be telling you all this. Adding jasmine to Pheros, in my opinion, seems
to enhance it's romantic/sexual/attractant qualities, because of the specific analog pheromones in jasmine.
Last edited by DrSmellThis; 09-20-2007 at 04:28 PM.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Note: I think it will be
Monday before Bruce has it available for shipping.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Doc, thanks for all the very
thorough replies, also the tip on Jasmine, its a favorite and I have a small bottle of Sambac waiting for an
opportunity.
If I might trouble you with another question... what musks did you use? Did you use Ambergris?
oops, that was 2 questions.
Pheros will be the first natural scent I've tried, other than the simple mixes I
make myself, and I don't wear them in public yet. I'm dying to try Mandy Aftel's Blond Tabac and Cognac.
Have you smelled any of her scents?
Thanks again,
Greg
Pheros is a great scent
and definitely has some sort of effect on everyone. I just put an oder in for three bottles. There are a bunch of
threads on it already, but if you are on the fence give it a shot. If you don't like it, send it to me. The muskier
and manlier the better.
Lucky for me I'm single again and starting to dabble in pheromones just in time for
the return. I kept the original bottles around here somewhere.
Last edited by jamesdeanmartin; 09-22-2007 at 12:53 PM.
Only the finest, professional perfumer grade, cruelty free ambergris.
You can smell it
clearly if you look for a rich amber musk note, even in the top note (though it's supposedly a bass note). It is
quite beautiful, other worldly, and compelling, as a note.
Very sexual indeed.
This is yet another reason
why the stuff wasn't cheap to make, by any stretch of the imagination. Only the finest, world class perfumes
contain that particular ingredient, if then.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Finally got around to trying this. WOW!
I mixed a small batch of Pheros concentrate/Jasmine
Sambac Absolute 20:1. What an intoxicating mix! Pheros fixes the Jasmine so well that it lasts forever, way past
the drydown. The lingering result is a great intoxicating floral sexy scent that you'd love to smell on any
woman.
I'm not averse to wearing certain "feminine" scents, since the line is so delicately drawn these days,
and would definitely wear Pheros with a little less Jasmine than I added, and a creative use of Rose or Verbena or
Geranium could steer it more masculine with a touch of smoke or leather.
Doc, you should make this, you'll be
famous.
Last edited by idesign; 11-11-2007 at 06:39 PM. Reason: uhhhh
I'm glad
you liked it.
THat really is a great mix. I got picked up by a cute young musician one night wearing that exact
thing. It's not necessarily feminine if you don't overdo the jasmine. As I said, you can just apply Pheros and
then throw a dab of jasmine over the top, without mixing anything.
I don't think it needs rose, or would
benefit from it. But I would absolutely not add geranium to it. Making scents blend harmoniously is not as easy as
people think.
The jasmine has a special quality with Pheros, however. Sambac is a good variety to
use, perhaps even the best; and is the one I personally prefer for it.
It makes me sad that I don't have more
Pheros. But darn, that stuff was expensive to make. It's one of those things where you don't realize how
much money you're spending except in hindsight; since the expenditures took place over a year or more.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
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