tounge - thanks for the advice. I\'ve gotten mixed results from the jealousy angle. She has not been open to advances from me in the past, not physical - more verbal in trying to set something up or feel out her feelings. So I\'ve been really left with no choice but to actively flirt & talk to other girls that either work in the bar or that are customers. Generally the response \"Sally\" gives me is one of anger. She noticeably observes me from a distance, I catch her as do my friends & she\'ll even roam by to try and eaves drop a bit, kind of funny when she does that - depending on my mood I\'ll clam up or I\'ll continue with whatever flattery or conversation I was making at the time to this other female. In the end though when I close out my tab (yes she will be the waitress I\'ll have a tab with as I flirt with other women) & I ask her what is wrong she won\'t give in & tell me what\'s wrong - but I think it\'s pretty obvious (or maybe it\'s not am I a tool).

Anyway thanks again - if after our initial chat if I don\'t see a change in attitude / mood with \"Sally\" then I\'ll go back to good ole option #2. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]