I\'m mixing it 1:1 with my usual mix. It covers the pheros well, although it needs refreshing every
couple of hours or so. I\'m applying dabs from a 1 dram vial.
I mixed up two small batches yesterday:
Pheros/SOE 1:1
Pheros/TE/m 5:3
I had put some SOE and
1d SPMO on my wrist then added one dab of Pheros.... I really liked the way the scents blended, so I mixed some in a
vial. The 1:1 ratio pretty much eliminates the strength of each product and caused it to fade almost completely
within a 1/2 hour [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] This was the opinion of three people beside
myself (didn\'t know if I had just grown used to it) They had to inhale quite deeply just to get any smell at all
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Time to try 2 or 3/1 ratio
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I haven\'t tried the Pheros/TE/m yet. I\'ll try it tonight
and see if that ratio needs to be raised as well.
Anyone else experimented with mixing this incredible scent with
your other products yet?
I\'m mixing it 1:1 with my usual mix. It covers the pheros well, although it needs refreshing every
couple of hours or so. I\'m applying dabs from a 1 dram vial.
Pheros/SOE 1:3
Pheros/AEm 1:1 - 1:4
Pheros/NPAm/NPAw/WAGG 3:1:1:1
Pheros/PIm/AEm/SOE
2:1:1:2
(I suck at math.)
Holmes
Been meaning to write this up.
Friday, a group of us went to see the Rangers trounce Anaheim. I
wore three dabs of Pheros and about 4\" of SoE. It wasn\'t hot out but the sun was brutal so we were all sweating
a bit. I sat between my SO and a nice looking woman of about thirty years old. As time passed, she got progressively
friendlier, even followed my to the snack bar. While we were in line she started up a conversation then asked about
my cologne. Kept telling me how great I smelled and how pleased she was to have met me (4-5 times). Throughout the
rest of the game she seemed to always be touching or rubbing against me.
It was pretty uncomfortable because I
was with somebody else but it was a definate hit.
I\'ve tried it a couple of times and haven\'t noticed anything whatsoever. Wore it with SOE and got
better reactions, but nothing that I wouldn\'t have gotten with SOE on it\'s own, which IMO is the best
everyday/work/socializing kind of phero. Will continue to try it but so far it\'s been a letdown.
Pheros shouldn\'t be counted on for hits, DST even said it wasn\'t trying to be like an AE or anything. It is
a rare cover scent IMO.
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I mixed up two small batches
yesterday:
Pheros/SOE 1:1
Pheros/TE/m 5:3
I had put some SOE and 1d SPMO on my wrist then added one dab of
Pheros.... I really liked the way the scents blended, so I mixed some in a vial. The 1:1 ratio pretty much
eliminates the strength of each product and caused it to fade almost completely within a 1/2 hour
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] This was the opinion of three people beside myself (didn\'t
know if I had just grown used to it) They had to inhale quite deeply just to get any smell at all
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Time to try 2 or 3/1 ratio
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I haven\'t tried the Pheros/TE/m yet. I\'ll try it tonight
and see if that ratio needs to be raised as well.
Anyone else experimented with mixing this incredible scent with
your other products yet?
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What version of SOE/m where you using
?? the regular or the unscented SOE/m ???
DZorro,
DZorro,
I have been mixing it with the regular SOE at the moment.... I really like the way the
scents blend together when applied seperately..... but when mixed in a vial, they seemed to lose
something.
Goss
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DZorro,
I have been mixing it with
the regular SOE at the moment.... I really like the way the scents blend together when applied seperately..... but
when mixed in a vial, they seemed to lose something.
Goss
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I
been trying to mix it with the unscented SOE/m, but some how it hasn\'t been that effective as i would orriginaly
thought.
Somehow, the Regular SOE/m seem to be more effective, to use then the unscented SOE/m.
I\'m still
trying to figure out how SOE/m unscented works, but i guess you can OD quite easy, then regular SOE/m.
DZorro,
I\'ve tried a combination together with SOE but on different parts of my body. I\'m going to apply more Pheros
this weekend to get that scent out, the last time I put too little and it wasn\'t noticed.
Hi,
I used Pheros:SOE/m unscented:NPA/m:NPA/w 10:10:1:1 today at work. I didn\'t see many woman
today. One who I work with from time to time since two years suddenly started to talk about what she did over easter
holidays. Usually we just work together and don\'t talk about private topics. She didn\'t say it explicit, but
her story made clear that she is single. I didn\'t know (and care about) it before.
The mix is inspired by DD
light.
Tomorrow more young ladies will get a whiff. Let\'s see.
MysteriousMan
I haven\'t had anything close to a hit yet with Pheros and I\'ve been wearing it consistently since
I got the product.
I really would like to know the pheromone content. Maybe I\'m doing something wrong, or
maybe it just doesn\'t fit with my body chemistry.
While it smells good, I\'m not all that interested in
wearing it everyday as a $60 cover scent. If anyone is really interested I\'m willing to sell my other two
bottles (unless I start getting hits.) I can accept paypal I just want the going rate plus shipping.
I\'ve
been hitting bars and clubs every thurs, friday and sat night for the past two weeks with it (and I generally get
real solid hits anytime I\'m out, no matter what I\'m wearing ex. A1, SOE, WAGG, NPA, A/E etc.)
JDM
Honestly, it\'s hard to understand why so many of u start mixing Pheros without knowing exactly what
it is capable of doing standalone. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Honestly, it\'s hard to understand
why so many of u start mixing Pheros without knowing exactly what it is capable of doing standalone.
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Yep. it\'s hard to stand alone.
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Honestly, it\'s hard to understand why so many of u start mixing Pheros
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Yep. it\'s
hard to stand alone.
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Honestly, it\'s hard to understand
why so many of u start mixing Pheros without knowing exactly what it is capable of doing standalone.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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I simply consider Pheros a very nice smelling cover scent and have been
using it like cologne. If I understand DST corectly... the mone content is very minimal, so I don\'t really expect
hits with it solo. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Honestly, it\'s hard to understand why so many of u start mixing Pheros
without knowing exactly what it is capable of doing standalone. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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I simply
consider Pheros a very nice smelling cover scent and have been using it like cologne. If I understand DST
corectly... the mone content is very minimal, so I don\'t really expect hits with it solo.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Gos has it
right.... I don\'t see why people are looking for standalone \"hits\" off pheros. Re-read some of DST\'s
posts about Pheros, and what he was attempting to do...
For some of us the need he was trying to fill is
worth the $, for others perhaps not, but it is important to be clear on what DST was trying to do and what he was
not trying to do. Maybe some got swept up in the hype and mis-interpreted things.
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Gos has it right.... I don\'t see why
people are looking for standalone \"hits\" off pheros.
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The
title might be a tip off. As well as it being sold alongside all the other pheromone products on a pheromone site.
I never really saw anything that said this was a cover scent that won\'t get you any hits.
Does love-scent
sell any products that people don\'t judge by hits? I\'m not trying to come down hard on the product, I just
think your reasoning is suspect at best.
take care,
JDM
P.S. The two extra bottles are gone...
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Whereas many products claim to smell
sexual or \"erotic\", but don\'t; I think this one actually smells sexual and erotic! It\'s basically a
perfuming approach. So the whole smell, per se, is supposed to be an aphrodisiac; and the whole smell was designed
to be pheromonic (rejecting the dubious \"VNO activator only\" definition of pheromones, which can indeed work
through conscious and unconscious smell, as research shows), as opposed to just containing pheromones x, y and z.
Does it contain pheromones to help it get there? Yes. Pheros does contain pheromones. Most of them are numerous
things from perfuming practice that are not available at love-scent. But it contains very small amounts of most all
of the ones that are available at love scent too, just to make the musky smell more \"human\"; and to round the
effect out.
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I haven\'t noticed any hits with Pheros either but I haven\'t worn it much. My girlfriend has more
or less hijacked my bottle of it (she\'s away frequently overnight). She loves it and it is now her
\"perfume\". I hope to try some experimenting with it soon, most likely in a \"swinging\" sexual situation. I
am not at all disappointed in the product and am happy my GF has found it so much to her liking. She\'s also one
that likes to experiment making her own scents and has even now tried to copy Pheros - she\'s close but no banana.
I think she\'d like to spend a week with DST and learn his secrets!!!!
JDM, I agree that the name can be unintentionally deceiving.
Back to the issue though, concious smells and
pheromones that work on an unconcious level are completely different IMO. Some may by into the argument that a
concious smell can work just as well, I certainly don\'t.
What pheros has in there that we really can\'t
get or afford are all the organic compounds that may have low levels of pheromones (for instance in the animal
products and perhaps even plant ones) that are not present in the normal L-S products. There are so many pheromones
out there, and we can only get a handful of them directly.
On the other hand, there is no reason to believe
that the extra pheromones offered in each of these compounds included in pheros are in greater concentration than
that of your own sweat.
As for the synthetic pheromones DST added, common sense tells you he wouldn\'t add
a significant amount simply because it was f-ck up the scent he had been trying to perfect over the last
year.
There were some posts when he mentioned his stuff isn\'t trying to replace AE or anything like that.
It isn\'t trying to compete or provide anything what the normal products do, but it does offer us the ability to
delve into something that hasn\'t been explored as much - the aphrodesiac properties of natural
compounds.
Since there are over 100 organic compounds in there, it is providing us something special.
However, I can see how one might have thought that this product was supposed to be some hit producing product. I
think there can be some mix-ups and different interpretations from the same language, and that is what was likely to
have happened with pheros.
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JDM, I agree that the name can be
unintentionally deceiving.
Back to the issue though, concious smells and pheromones that work on an unconcious
level are completely different IMO.
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But the desired result is the
same. If it doesn\'t get you \"hits\", no matter how loose you define the term, then the product isn\'t
working for you, regardless of content.
Pheromone content is somewhat irrelevant at that point, I only ask because
I\'m an 6\'5\" 275 lb ex-D-1 football player so sometimes products heavy in -None don\'t work for me
etc.
take care,
JDM
You may get some hits just by using a nice scent, ya know? And Pheros is a lot more than just a \"nice
scent\"...
First, I really appreciate the honesty, and am just soaking everything up and learning. I will continue
to work on my pheromone perfuming. As Bruce says, not everyone is going to like the same cologne. I don\'t have a
problem with Pheros being judged for it\'s reactions from others. (though I\'m not sure what I think of
the term \"hits\") It was designed to go beyond just smelling good. We\'ve had lots of reports of positive
reactions, thankfully. But it is more complicated. Pheros certainly has some things in it that are
\"socially and psychologically active\", for lack of a better word. What it has in it is a smattering of natural
compounds, some pheromone analogues from perfuming, and trace amounts of L-S pheromones just to humanize it. So the
task is to find a way to use it with other products. That will be different for different people.
Because of
all that, I think it is possible to either misuse it, OD, or for it to clash with someone\'s body chemistry, or
other pheromones. It is an unknown substance, to some degree, even for me. It might be good not to use it every day
in large quantities, just like for -none. I for one am not going to underestimate the ingredients, regardless of
whatever job I did with blending them. The strongest \"hits\" I have ever gotten have been associated with some of
the ingredients in Pheros, whether in conjunction with L-S mones or by themselves; and I would be very
dissapointed if I could not continue to use these ingredients. The last two women that took me home took me home
when I was wearing Pheros itself, BTW.
I have noticed a certain reaction sometimes that is similar to
a -none OD, possibly due to accumulated levels of other things I had been applying, or to too much Pheros. But it
has been mostly positive. Other times I have gotten away with wearing a lot of it, sort of like with -none. But
perhaps a 275lb ex-football player would be more susceptible to \"-none OD type reactions\" as compared to others.
Pheros is quite animalic, compared to other perfumes, and therefore might not be as appropriate for someone
who was already very animalic. Who knows, at this early stage. Similarly, it\'s quite possible that one cannot
just mix one\'s usual levels of pheromones in with the stuff. My use of -none, for instance, has gone down since
using Pheros, though I still use Edge and PI on most days. I can think of some particular ingredients in
Pheros that have some -none-like qualities.
So, jdm, my advice (not that you\'re asking for it) would be to
look at the undesired reactions you are getting from women and figure them out. Is it like a -none OD, for instance,
when you wear Pheros? Do women ignore you or act inimidated and repulsed? What other products, and how much,
are you wearing? Maybe your negative experience with hits these last 2 weeks can actually provide clues to unravel
some of the \"mystery\" here.
What I will say is that I don\'t believe the name was misleading (and not
just because the name means \"king\", rather than pheromone), as there are more ways to think about pheromones
than is typical here at love scent. It has like 10 \"analogue pheromones\" synthesized by fragrance chemists for
example, and here I am referring to neither EOs nor animal ingredients. It also contains as much of the animal
ingredients as I could get away with (without ruining the smell -- they are quite strong), which are pure mammalian
animal pheromones, obviously. Then it contains small amounts of almost every L-S pheromone sold, including various
secret ingredients you all are familiar with. Pheros also has an erotic spirit to it, I think. So all that
justifies the name. Perfuming has it\'s own attractant and pheromone traditions that predate all the L-S -mones by
years, decades, and in some cases, millenia. They are not in competition with the L-S -mone approach at all, but
just represent different opportunities we have at our disposal.
Honestly, I use a little Pheros on
most days, but it is not the only scented product I use. Still, I like having it, and it would be one of the things
I would buy (indeed I spent thousands making it, before knowing I would for sure sell it) because of it\'s unique
effects and natural scent.
DST (and Elana!), I would love to write something nice about Pheros , but my package hasnt arrived yet.. I
REALLY hope it will be here for the weekend. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
I am personally almost as bummed as you that it did not arrive yet! So I just did a little meditation
for your bottle. Hopefully it will show up in the next couple of days.
As long as the meditation didn\'t involve black candles and voodoo dolls.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Doc, so far my assessment is that Pheros has a mind of
its own. Odd, but compelling. It smells like one thing one day--or one minute--and another the next. Have you
noticed this?
When I first started wearing it, it seemed like a combination of sandalwood, sawdust, and a touch a
cinnamon. As it began to settle, the sawdust \"note\" took over (which was wonderful).
The next day, I detected
menthol (or something of its ilk) above all else.
Now, for some reason, the dominant note seems to be cinnamon.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Is there a possiblity that I\'m tripping on this stuff?
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Anyway, that\'s what I\'ve noticed thus far. Bottom line,
though, is that it be\'s got a hold on me. Very nice job indeed, sir!
Holmes
Wow.
I mixed some new NPA in with my Pheros (3/4 Pheros, 1/4 NPA) the smell was completely
covered with a little shaking. I stored it in an empty A-1 bottle I had (I don\'t want the cork to spill out and
it refuses to stay in.) I let everything settle for a day or so (not that it matters)
I am also in the cult of
A-1 and I believe it is the best and most effective pheromone on the market so I can\'t throw anything A-1 related
away. But anyway...
I had a ridiculous amount of hits on Saturday, one of the best nights of my life. I
literally had girls dripping off me. I don\'t have the time to sit down and document everything, but I attended
the LS formal (essentially the prom for 20-somethings) with my two dates (one of them is hands down the hottest girl
in LS, I\'d say a more attractive version of Jennifer Garner.) Just wow, all over. I wish I could share the
pictures (including one with six drop dead gorgeous girls crowded around kissing me on various parts of my face.)
One of my dates was the most beautiful girl I have *ever* seen in person, and she might be the sweetest as well. The
fact that I am even in her universe is appalling to the rest of the world (and I certainly didn\'t make a lot of
friends with the males when I took home 5 girls in my mustang.)
Anyway, I applied 6 drops of the NPA/Pheros
mix before the formal (around 5:30) and reapplied 3 drops (and a drop of AE behind each ear) before we hit some more
nightclubs around 1:00 AM.
Pheromones work.
JDM
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Wow.
I mixed some new NPA in with my Pheros
(3/4 Pheros, 1/4 NPA) the smell was completely covered with a little shaking. I stored it in an empty A-1 bottle I
had (I don\'t want the cork to spill out and it refuses to stay in.) I let everything settle for a day or so (not
that it matters)
I am also in the cult of A-1 and I believe it is the best and most effective pheromone on the
market so I can\'t throw anything A-1 related away. But anyway...
I had a ridiculous amount of hits on
Saturday, one of the best nights of my life. I literally had girls dripping off me. I don\'t have the time to sit
down and document everything, but I attended the LS formal (essentially the prom for 20-somethings) with my two
dates (one of them is hands down the hottest girl in LS, I\'d say a more attractive version of Jennifer Garner.)
Just wow, all over. I wish I could share the pictures (including one with six drop dead gorgeous girls crowded
around kissing me on various parts of my face.) One of my dates was the most beautiful girl I have *ever* seen in
person, and she might be the sweetest as well. The fact that I am even in her universe is appalling to the rest of
the world (and I certainly didn\'t make a lot of friends with the males when I took home 5 girls in my
mustang.)
Anyway, I applied 6 drops of the NPA/Pheros mix before the formal (around 5:30) and reapplied 3
drops (and a drop of AE behind each ear) before we hit some more nightclubs around 1:00 AM.
Pheromones
work.
JDM
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Wicked!
Where did you apply the
drops of mix and how about the AE?
Please report back next time you try this mix, and let us know if the
results are reproducable for you.
Did anyone comment on the scent btw? I\'m glad you did well this time
around, given that you were down on Pheros standalone.
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Wow.
I mixed some new NPA in with my Pheros (3/4
Pheros, 1/4 NPA) the smell was completely covered with a little shaking. I stored it in an empty A-1 bottle I had (I
don\'t want the cork to spill out and it refuses to stay in.) I let everything settle for a day or so (not that it
matters)
I am also in the cult of A-1 and I believe it is the best and most effective pheromone on the market so I
can\'t throw anything A-1 related away. But anyway...
I had a ridiculous amount of hits on Saturday, one of the
best nights of my life. I literally had girls dripping off me. I don\'t have the time to sit down and document
everything, but I attended the LS formal (essentially the prom for 20-somethings) with my two dates (one of them is
hands down the hottest girl in LS, I\'d say a more attractive version of Jennifer Garner.) Just wow, all over. I
wish I could share the pictures (including one with six drop dead gorgeous girls crowded around kissing me on
various parts of my face.) One of my dates was the most beautiful girl I have *ever* seen in person, and she might
be the sweetest as well. The fact that I am even in her universe is appalling to the rest of the world (and I
certainly didn\'t make a lot of friends with the males when I took home 5 girls in my mustang.)
Anyway, I
applied 6 drops of the NPA/Pheros mix before the formal (around 5:30) and reapplied 3 drops (and a drop of AE behind
each ear) before we hit some more nightclubs around 1:00 AM.
Pheromones work.
JDM
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JDM is man of integrity. Earlier today I got a PM from him telling me
the Pheros I bought from him went out by Priority mail today. Thanks JDM.
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