Ideological Spectrum redux

[belgareth]

It isn't so much a strategy as

an ethical dilema. Do you cast a vote for a person you believe is a crook just because he is less a crook than the

other guy or do you vote based on your conscience and not vote when there is nobody to vote for? I think that voting

for the lesser crook is a voting for the status quo so refuse to give them my vote.

I'm concerned because the direction this administration is taking us is so much more than about socialism.

National sovereignty and personal freedom are being compromised at every level, and its not by

accident.

Yeah, I mentioned that in a debate a few years ago on this forum. This country is moving towards

socialism at an alarming rate. We are steadily losing our freedoms for things the federal government should have no

hand in, while the federal government does not do the jobs it is supposed to be doing.

I also see a lot of

resentment building against the government and wonder how far that will go. Here in Texas there is a lot of talk of

secession and Texas has that legal right. It was part of the deal when they joined the union. The talk has gotten

louder and comes from places like the governor's office.

Even that only worries me a little. What really has me

concerned is the threat of violence if the goverment continues along the path it is on. I think it is coming and it

will not be pretty when it happens. There are too many angry people the government is ignoring.

[Rbt]

I know I may get some flak for this,

but the fact of the matter is is that Mr. Obama also had backing from a segment of the population that has felt

disenfranchised for a very long time, especially thanks to the efforts of the Jessie Jacksons of the world. It may

not have mattered what his policies are/were, but the fact he wasn't a good ol' southern white boy (Bush, Clinton,

even Carter) I think had an influence. Politics, like the stock market, is less about logic and more about

emotions.

And yes, Texas has the distinction of having joined the "union" by way of a treaty. So They can leave

anytime they want.

[idesign]

And yes,

Texas has the distinction of having joined the "union" by way of a treaty. So They can leave anytime they

want.

Hey Bel, got a spare bedroom at your place???

[belgareth]

Hey Bel,

got a spare bedroom at your place???

My kid seems to think half the military is going to end up in Texas

if that happens. I may be renting space on the lawn.

[belgareth]

Perhaps this will give you some

answers: http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/...atrist_co.html

[idesign]

Great post! Worthy of a

quote:

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice,

voluntary cooperation and moral integrity — as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature

will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose

economic and social equality on the population — as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature

will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their

character and reduces them to wards of the state — as liberals do."


Socialism is bad enough on its

own, but nationalization of the economy is only the tip of the iceberg of a gov't which seeks to establish

authoritarian rule in all aspects of a society. Health care, energy (new executive EPA jurisdiction over carbon

emissions), thought police (hate crimes), all deriving from an ideology who believes their power is an entitlement,

not a privilege, or a responsibility to the electorate.

Its an ideology which holds our Constitution in utter

disdain, and will circumvent it in any way possible, up to and including judicial activism, executive order and

bending the rules of Congress.

The right to bear arms is the last protection against tyranny, and I'm waiting

and watching for the moment when this right comes under assault by this current gov't. It will only take the

smallest but opportune time or event for it to start.

Violence is abhorrent in any case, but is a necessary evil

to combat greater evil. The freedom we have had for 200+ years was born in violent revolution, steeped in foreign

and domestic war, and maintained with the idea that freedom is worth the cost of sacrifice, be it large or small.



Its a crime against humanity if tyrants from within compromise their country against their will and revert it to

a state of serfdom. It really is that simple right now.

[belgareth]

You are beginning to sound like

me. I am not and do not promote violence. However, I am pretty sure it is coming. An effort by the government to

control weapons would likely trigger it, as would a number of other things. Personally, I think secession without

violence would be the better choice but don't believe it will be allowed.

The most interesting part will come

when the military is ordered to take guns from citizens or, worse yet, fire on citizens. Many soldiers realize their

oath is to the constitution and not the president. If the presidential orders do not defend the constitution, what

then? Mass desertions and failure to follow orders? I expect so.