Or maybe it's the dispersing/heat factor ... in this case ... lack of.Originally Posted by gfunk
Or maybe it's the dispersing/heat factor ... in this case ... lack of.Originally Posted by gfunk
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
Yeah, whats the melting point of thisOriginally Posted by MOBLEYC57
thing? Maybe too high to even evaporate a response or all the bottles were empty as it was gone while in
shipement.
Intersting point of view.. Never thought about this..Originally Posted by Icehawk
Because of course it
could go both ways..
The melting
point was 134-135 C - this is slightly less then androstenone.. So the rate of evaporation would not have caused
this..
I'm certain at this point that this compound itself is inactive..
We do however plan to continue
to pursue one other pregnen steroid for testing: if this fails as well, then this class of compounds will be
abandoned.
NOTE: we have two other compounds which we plan to offer immediately as alpha-tests: one is a
derivative of androstAnone (-stanone). These samples would be free of charge. I'm awaiting Bruce's
authorization on this before disclosing more information on these, and offering them for alpha-test.
We plan to
offer future alpha-test compounds free of charge in small volumes - we're investing significant quantities of time
& money into this research & development: we are the only entity which is attempting to develop novel and superior
pheromones. We sincerely appreciate your support during this endeavor, as a very difficult and costly endeavor it
indeed is for us, with no immediate return..
Any comments or suggestions (re: future alpha-tests) are
welcomed.
Well, I remember a topic fromOriginally Posted by Archetypical Hybrid
(HEC)
your hand conserning a diff form of -Rone, methoxy or something, and I sure would like to try that one.
Unless
of course, the product that's been talked about on this topic is in fact that very same methoxy-Rone, lol.
I felt really ill today (sinus infection) and didn’t feel like doing any experimenting, so I didn’t
put any mones on this morning. I’ve been using the new Alpha-test’s Blue-cap the last several days. It was enough of
a struggle just trying to keep focused on my job.
I’d been really
dragging through the day, and had an after lunch meeting with one other analyst, and my boss. I decided that if
there is any stimulant effect from this mone then I could sure use it, as several cups of coffee was not getting the
job done. I also added about 9” of SoE, and a couple squirts of LT as I didn’t feel very sociable. That meeting went
okay, maybe even a little more convivial than normal, but the real effect was a couple hours
latter.
I was standing in line at car parts counter, when another
customer right behind me just inserted himself right into the conversation I was having with the salesperson at the
counter. He started acting like an old friend, and finding common social ground with me. He really did make an
effort to keep the conversation going. He left first, and wished me, and then the others a good day. This is
unusual, as clearly he was regular customer, and knew the people there, but we had never met
before.
This seems to be an exaggerated effect like what one might
expect with SoE, which again suggests that this mone has an amplifying effect for at least a few other mones when
worn with them.
What I meant was ... I've found that body heat puts mones out there, but sinceOriginally Posted by Icehawk
it's cold in most places, maybe it's because the body is not really pushing the mones out because it's cold; and
maybe some have found it work if they worked out, or something that causes one to sweat/heat up, after application.
Just a thought.
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I believe
this stuff counteracts the effects of none (at least on me). Ever since I first used AE/m I could never wear more
than one drop and it always put me in an aggressive mood. When I used two dabs of 101 I was able to use 3 drops as
well as 3 sprays of Chikara without affecting me. The next day I wore two drops of AE alone and it did put me in a
bad mood like usual. I had to put on some Masters to counteract (which does an okay job but not as good as 101). I
think 101 could be that -none cleaner a lot of people want (unless it converts to none that is- but I haven't
noticed this when I wore it alone).
I still have at least a week's worth of product left (sticking to two
dabs), so I'll keep testing until i run out.
Last edited by goodguy; 01-19-2007 at 09:20 PM. Reason: spelling-hey I'm tired ok
I am still
throwing some Alpha-101 on occasionally just to see if I can notice a difference.
I can't say that the results from Alpha-101 are absolutely negative, but they
really are elusive.
My feeling of being more energized
despite lack of sleep while wearing it could be attributed to other factors.
A theory for no great reaction to this synthetic pheromone is that it is so unlike
anything natural, that it leaves the person "experiencing" Alpha-101 alerted to the wearer’s presence, but unsure as
to how to react.
If it occurs no where in nature, there may
be no natural response to be associated with it. It just isn’t part of our endocrinological “design”. If it isn’t
part of the chemical processes that our bodies use, why should we react?
This is really a lame argument as cocaine, cannabis, caffeine, nicotine, aspirin
and many other drugs aren’t part of our normal bodily functioning, but we react in the extreme to small amounts of
these substances.
If you are a person supporting nurture over nature,
there may no learned response while growing up (how could there be?), and therefore no response as an
adult.
As it has never been encountered before, the person wearing
Alpha-101 may be marked out by it, but regarded as "strange", and therefore to perhaps be
avoided.
It may take extra effort on the person wearing
Alpha-101 to establish a response category for this new “smell” that the perceiver is aware of, but has never
encountered before. It may be up to the wearer to condition the perceiver to this new class of phero, and thereby
define a unique response in others consequent to the wearer’s presence.
I will continue to occaisionally use Alpha-101, and report anything
unusual.
HEC - "Thanks for trying"
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