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    My take on it:
    IMPI 1 - Pheromone +

    secret african herbal aphrodesiac (not around anymore)

    IMPI 2 - (Currently up), same pheromones, more of the

    secret ingredient (or tweaked secret ingredient)

    IMPI Beta - same pheromones as IMPI 2 (not sure about the

    secret ingredient) + different cover scents.

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    Mousse,



    Okay, I’ll try to explain the clumsy use of the term “Unscented” by those of us that have been around

    since before the introduction of the original Impi.


    The LaCroy products line for men has “The

    Edge”, and NPA in unscented versions, but they both smell pretty badly to some people. So many (maybe most) people

    use them with a cover scent.


    The LaCroy line also has two scented versions of Edge

    Essentials, which have the same pheromones as TE, but come mixed with essential oils in “Heat” (verisage), and

    “Arouser” (artificial cedarwood) scents.


    The original Impi #1 did not have any scents added,

    so in that sense it was unscented, as every ingredient in it was either a pheromone, or an aphrodisiac. Therefore

    there were no inactive ingredients, whose only purpose was to cover up the smell of the others. It was anticipated

    that the Natural African Herbal Aphrodisiac had enough scent to cover the other mones in Impi, but it does not

    qualify as an inactive, scent-only added ingredient.


    When some people found that for them,

    there was not enough AHA to cover the smell of the other mones, the AHA content was increased, thus creating Impi #

    2. And still some people complained that the eNone smell leaked through. So now the colored Impi’s have strong,

    artificial cover scents added to satisfy those that didn’t like the “Smell” of the ”Unscented” versions, if that

    makes any sense.


    As to active ingredients, here is what the Pherolibrary shows for NPA and

    Edge, followed by my guess as to the amounts of the ingredients in Impi


    The Edge & EE = .050

    mg/ml eNone + .050 mg/ml Unspecified Ingredient (UI) for a total content of .100 mg/ml of pheromones.




    NPA = .240 mg/ml aNone + .240 mg/ml UI for a total of .480 mg/ml of pheromones (= 4.8 times as

    concentrated as TE)


    My GUESS =
    Impi # 1 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml

    UI + .042 mg/ml ETS-11 + .063 mg/ml AHA for a total of .271 mg/ml of active ingredients


    Impi

    # 2 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml ETS-11 + .083 mg/ml AHA for a total of .292 mg/ml of active

    ingredients


    It has never been answered as to whether the colored Impi’s have the same active

    ingredients as either earlier version of Impi, but most people are assuming that they have the same active

    ingredients as "unscented" Impi # 2 plus the artificial scents.

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    Hey all, here is my take on Impi Silver. The scent is not musky at all

    (which I can appreciate). It smells very much like Jean Paul Gaultier cologne. It's sharp, woody -maybe a little

    oriental smell along the same line as Chikara. Impi Silver has a masculine enough scent and is intriguing. I'd say

    it's perfect for an office or casual use but not for clubs and gatherings where the scent has to compete against

    more overpowering ones on other men.

    My use has been limited thus far and I intend on posting the results soon. I

    have enjoyed reading other experiences with this beta test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenandoah
    It has

    never been answered as to whether the colored Impi’s have the same active ingredients as either earlier version of

    Impi, but most people are assuming that they have the same active ingredients as "unscented" Impi # 2 plus the

    artificial scents.
    Hi Shenandoah, In the IMPI Beta test, the description says:



    These bottles of IMPI all contain the same pheromones as the regular IMPI, but in addition are

    scented with one of (three) modern fragrances.


    Now, my original thought was same

    pheromone/concentrations. But I guess you can parse it either way now that I think of it. They could be the same

    pheromones but in different concentrations. Maybe this is one of those "definition of is" things...

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    Today I had my lunch "date" with

    a girl from work. A couple of posts ago in this thread I was saying that I was undecided which combo I would use -

    IMPI (New Version - unscented NON colour version - thanks Shenandoah!) with SOE Gel, or IMPI with Chikara and a

    cover scent. Here is my story....

    Products : IMPI Cologne for men (New Version)
    Chikara scented spray



    Calvin Klein's Truth for men
    AND....
    Liquid Trust.

    App. Points: IMPI - 1 spray to middle of throat



    CHIKARA - 2 sprays (light) one on each side of neck

    CK Truth - 1 spray over IMPI

    Liquid Trust - 2 light

    sprays on shirt, one on each side of the chest.

    I am a 29 year old male, my "date" was a 31 year old asian.



    Some points to note. We have known each other for about three months, from work. We are both in quickly

    deteriorating relationships. We have built an instant rapport since we first met, which I feel has slowly turned

    into a mutual attraction.

    We usually talk about the state of both of our relationships, which are similarly bad.

    I think we both know we are attracted to each other without ever mentioning it. The term "Date" must be loosely

    used. We had both just decided to go to lunch together. No romantic plans.

    About 45 mins before meeting her, I

    spray 1 spray of IMPI, 2 Sprays of Chikara and 1 spray of CK Truth in the aforementioned areas. 5 mins before

    arrival I spray the Liquid Trust. Now I was worried about the smell before I decided to use this combo - but I must

    say it smelt fantastic - all three scents seemed to compliment each other. I couldn't smell LT.

    At lunch, which

    spanned about an hour to an hour and a half - the results were evident. Not only on her part - but I felt that I was

    equally affected. The best way to describe it was that it felt like we were the only two people in the room - and

    the sense of attraction was esculated monumentally. She was very, very talkative. She opened up to me unlike ever

    before. She would continuosly include examples of how her relationship had soured, as if it were a hint to me that

    she didn't care about it anymore, and that she was miserable and was begging for an escape. She was extremely

    attentive to me whenever I spoke, and would stare at me - deep into my eyes. I must say i felt the same. I said

    before that I was attracted to her too, but nothing like I was feeling now. We were both transfixed to eachother.



    As our lunch drew to a close, she told me that she wanted me to take her shopping. I could tell she didn't want

    me to leave her, and nor did I want her to leave me. She was elated when I agreed. We got up to pay the bill, and I

    notced she was standing very, very close to me. Almost resting her head against my shoulder.

    In the car to go

    shopping, this is where it became very interesting. More of the same conversation about how she hates her

    relationship and is miserable. The word "hate" actually made an appearance, in reference to her partner. Plenty of

    contact - arm, hand, shoulder. Mentions about how someone at work had said that she had a crush on me - and If I

    believed it or not. Trying to be tactful and smooth, I replied - "I don't know, I'd like to believe that If you

    did, you'd be confident enough to tell me". She smiled, no comment. There is a distinct sexual vibe between us in

    the car - the coversation is very personal, like the type you would only talk about for someone you've known and

    "trusted" (pun intended for years. I would best describe the atmosphere as an extremely elevated sense of

    attraction, comfort, and I felt we both felt like we didn't want to be anywhere else.

    We arrive at the shopping

    center. 3 Hours had passed since my first application. In my pocket I have the bottle of LS and Chikara. I decide to

    go to the bathroom and apply 1 light spray of Chikara to the middle of my throat. We walk very close together during

    our walk around the shopping centre. More of the same conversation, as well as probing questions about my wavering

    relationship. We didn't care where we were going. She buys a couple of things and we decide it's time to go. After

    all, this was not a day we planned to spend entirely together.

    In the car on the way to her place. Exactly like

    the previous car ride. Mentions 3 or 4 times how wonderful today has been. I say the same.There was almost an aura

    around us that we wanted to be together, and nowhere else. Very comfortable, yet very tense at the same time if you

    can understand. When I arrive at her place, I knew I didn't want to go home. She didn't want me to either. She

    asks me to park the car and help her up with the bags. At this point I'm thinking this is serious - do I really

    want this? Yes I did.

    Upon entering her house I note that it has now been 4 or more hours since I used LT, so I

    go to the bathroom and apply 1 small spray to the middle of my shirt. The conversation is much the same, but now she

    is becoming very emotional, and she actually starts to cry. I hate to see girls cry. I go over and wipe away the

    tears from her eyes. She is staring at me intensely. We are very, very close. "What are we doing?" I ask. "I don't

    know" she replies.

    What followed was what I can honestly describe as the most passionate, intense kiss I have

    ever given or recieved - ever. Even as I write this it sounds like a crappy soap drama, and I feel like a sap

    writing it, but honestly, that's the best way I can describe it.

    After what seemed like an eternity we pull

    away, and the way she was looking at me was if she wanted to eat me. We were both very, very turned on. "I should

    go" I say. "Yeah" she says. That didn't happen. We kiss again, this time she was biting my neck, and I could see

    her smelling me and rubbing her face across my chest. It was extremely passionate.

    This time I decide it's

    best to leave before anything else happens. I know we both wanted to - there was no doubt there, but our

    circumstances (work and relationships - albiet dysfunctional) meant that we needed some clear space between us to

    sort out what we really wanted from this.

    I kiss her goodbye.

    IMPI + CHIKARA + LIQUID TRUST.

    I have

    found my combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenandoah
    Mousse,

    Okay, I’ll try to explain the clumsy use of the term

    “Unscented” by those of us that have been around since before the introduction of the original Impi.




    The LaCroy products line for men has “The Edge”, and NPA in unscented versions, but they both smell

    pretty badly to some people. So many (maybe most) people use them with a cover scent.


    The

    LaCroy line also has two scented versions of Edge Essentials, which have the same pheromones as TE, but come mixed

    with essential oils in “Heat” (verisage), and “Arouser” (artificial cedarwood) scents.


    The

    original Impi #1 did not have any scents added, so in that sense it was unscented, as every ingredient in it was

    either a pheromone, or an aphrodisiac. Therefore there were no inactive ingredients, whose only purpose was to cover

    up the smell of the others. It was anticipated that the Natural African Herbal Aphrodisiac had enough scent to cover

    the other mones in Impi, but it does not qualify as an inactive, scent-only added ingredient.




    When some people found that for them, there was not enough AHA to cover the smell of the other mones,

    the AHA content was increased, thus creating Impi # 2. And still some people complained that the eNone smell leaked

    through. So now the colored Impi’s have strong, artificial cover scents added to satisfy those that didn’t like the

    “Smell” of the ”Unscented” versions, if that makes any sense.


    As to active ingredients, here

    is what the Pherolibrary shows for NPA and Edge, followed by my guess as to the amounts of the ingredients in

    Impi


    The Edge & EE = .050 mg/ml eNone + .050 mg/ml Unspecified Ingredient (UI) for a total

    content of .100 mg/ml of pheromones.


    NPA = .240 mg/ml aNone + .240 mg/ml UI for a total of

    .480 mg/ml of pheromones (= 4.8 times as concentrated as TE)


    My GUESS

    =

    Impi # 1 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml ETS-11 + .063 mg/ml AHA for a total

    of .271 mg/ml of active ingredients


    Impi # 2 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml

    ETS-11 + .083 mg/ml AHA for a total of .292 mg/ml of active ingredients


    It has never been

    answered as to whether the colored Impi’s have the same active ingredients as either earlier version of Impi, but

    most people are assuming that they have the same active ingredients as "unscented" Impi # 2 plus the artificial

    scents.
    Shenandoah,

    Thankyou again, this is exactly the information I was after. It has

    cleared it all up for me.

    See my post for my first major hit report using the new IMPI.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenandoah
    The Edge & EE = .050 mg/ml eNone + .050 mg/ml Unspecified Ingredient (UI) for a

    total content of .100 mg/ml of pheromones.


    NPA = .240 mg/ml aNone + .240 mg/ml UI for a total

    of .480 mg/ml of pheromones (= 4.8 times as concentrated as TE)


    My GUESS

    =

    Impi # 1 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml ETS-11 + .063 mg/ml AHA for a total

    of .271 mg/ml of active ingredients


    Impi # 2 = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml

    ETS-11 + .083 mg/ml AHA for a total of .292 mg/ml of active ingredients
    If this is correct than it

    appears that Impi should serve very well as a TE follow-on.

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    Quoting

    PRODUCT DESCRITPION for IMPI:

    NOTE:

    This IMPI has a somewhat upgraded formula over the previous version. From what I have been told, the herbal

    aphrodisiac/fragrance portion has been increased.


    Impi is an African

    (Zulu) word for "warrior" and it combines traditional secrets of herbal aphrodisia with modern pheromone science.

    The makers of Impi, LaCroy Chemical, themselves located in South Africa, tell me that the fragrance of Impi comes

    from an ancient African herbal formula used by men to attract the opposite sex. Not only that, but Impi has an

    all-new pheromone formula which contains at least one entirely new pheromone, never before used in a cologne.



    LaCroy has been in the pheromone industry from the beginning of Love Scent and has brought us a number of our

    top-sellers including New Pheromone Additive and the Edge
    . Impi is by far

    their most adventurous project and has been years in the making.
    I'm

    sure it will quickly become a top seller.




    Icehawk,



    Reading the product description (especially the words in bold) it is clear that LaCroy’s intent was to

    not just rest on their laurels, but to follow-on the success of Edge, and NPA with something to compete in the world

    of more complex pheromone formulae. “Complex” as opposed to “balanced” as their formula still seems targeted to a

    sexual response.





    Mousse, and pbj,

    I, and any of the others

    around here who have been using “unscented” for Impi # 1 and # 2, have been corrected

    – Impi is

    listed among the Men’s
    scented products.

    A

    natural reading of the Colored Impi product descriptions would also infer that the colored Impi’s have the same

    active ingredients as Impi # 2




    Bruce,

    Which again brings up the

    question of names.


    For the Impi “natural” scent how about Impi Zulu, or Impi Africa,



    For the Impi Blue, how about Impi Stealth, as it smells so much like normal after

    shave,

    or even Impi After Shave, or Impi True Blue (as in the old tried and true

    standard).

    Impi Azure also makes allusion to the color blue, while sounding like an after

    shave.


    Not to confuse Impi Silver with the fragrance “Chrome”, I favor Impi Silver. If this

    is adopted then Impi Yellow could conveniently become Impi Gold


    The labels could be the same

    Impi Warrior design on different backgrounds for the different Impi’s. Continue to use the white (or a very light

    tan) background for Impi Zulu. Use a light blue background for Impi Azure (or True Blue). Use a Silver polymer

    background for Impi Silver. Use a gold polymer background for Impi Gold.


    I still like the

    name Impi Amarelo – Impi Amerelo – Impi Amirelo – Impi Amerilo for Impi Yellow, as of the exotic sound, and it would

    work with a gold (or light yellow) background label also.

    I vote against Impi Citrus Sunshine.

    It sounds like a fruit drink.

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