Chikara & Perception

[svpppljutf]

Interesting

I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of Perception would help -- using

a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

What about combining with

TE?

Thank you

[Rbt]

Interesting

I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of

Perception would help -- using a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

What about

combining with TE?

Thank you

The only time I even think I got a reaction/response when using

Perception gels was after I tried an entire packet. Worth a try.

Perception already has androstenone in it, so

adding more in the form of The Edge *may* cause an OD, but then again given the poor response I've gotten with

Percerption, it may help...

If nothing else, applying Perception OVER TE will help the TE last longer. The

"extender" part of the Perception carrier does seem to work okay.

[terry0400-40]

Interesting

I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of

Perception would help -- using a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

What about

combining with TE?

Thank you

A whole gel pkt would give you 20 mcg of

Androstenone, which could be on the OD side for some users, especially young

guys.
I would say give the 1/2 pkt a run for awhile,

before proceeding to the whole pkt.
If you notice that

the 1/2 pack is a little none heavy for the young girls then try adding 1/2 pkt SOE for that

date.

[5alphareductase]

i tried two of the

perception gel packs and didn't notice any reactions. although, there was one occasion when i had a whole pack on

at the grocery store and an older man in his seventies looked at me like i was from a different planet, but thats

about it. chikara by itself doesn't do anything for me, i have to layer it with something else like TE or SOE to

really notice anything from it.

[terry0400-40]

i tried two of the perception gel packs and didn't notice any reactions. although,

there was one occasion when i had a whole pack on at the grocery store and an older man in his seventies looked at

me like i was from a different planet, but thats about it. chikara by itself doesn't do anything for me, i have to

layer it with something else like TE or SOE to really notice anything from

it.

I also do not get anything from Chikara

alone.
I find TE sorta

fair.
But i have had some rock solid hits with Chikara

@ 2 sp + TE @ 1 sp so figre that ha ha.
Years ago i

noticed zilch from my PI unscented, and also nix from my Perception

pks.
So one day i met up with a girl to purchase her

cell phone, and just about as soon as she opened her door till the time i broke free from her she was staring at me

with open mouth dihl she was upset that i had to leave, never met her before

this.
What i had on was 1 dr PI + 1/2 pkt Perception,

so once again, go figre ??

[svpppljutf]

A whole gel pkt would give you 20 mcg of

Androstenone, which could be on the OD side for some users, especially young

guys.
I would say give the 1/2 pkt a run for awhile,

before proceeding to the whole pkt.
If you notice that

the 1/2 pack is a little none heavy for the young girls then try adding 1/2 pkt SOE for that

date.

Both me and my "target" are in the lower 30s -- what would you think is good

in that case? (I also have a longer post with questions at

http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19458

)

Thank you

[terry0400-40]

Both me and my "target" are in the lower 30s -- what would you think is good in that case?

(I also have a longer post with questions at

http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19458

)



Thank you

If all you have available is Perception then you may as

well use it up and see if it enhances your pheromone signature. ( see if it works for you

)
Start testing with 1/2

pack.
Few sprays of cologne first, wait until is dry

then softly apply Perception.

You may go up to one

full pkt if you dont notice decent reactions from the 1/2.



Remember to have a good wash of the application sites between

uses.

[svpppljutf]

Thank you

terry0400-40

[terry0400-40]

Thank you

terry0400-40

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[svpppljutf]

By the way, do

you have any comments on the following:

Recently ordered Perception gel packs (which also came with

TE freebie gel pack).

Now this may sound like a completely stupid question, but how does one exactly

rub (& how hard) in the gel and how does one make sure to use only half the pack per application?

My

plan:

-- Given that it's a cold winter and I'll be wearing a scarf, a coat and probably gloves, I plan to apply

to the jaw/below ear/near neck area on both sides. Have people ever tried applying to either the chin, below the

chin or the forehead?

-- Would you recommend washing the area first? First of all, I intend to apply the gel in

the evening, so would washing with a fragrant shower gel in the morning be of any help/hurt/no difference -- what

about Armani Code shower gel?

-- I plan to briefly wash/lightly dab the areas with water, dry with towel

and then apply a cologne (thinking of starting off with Acqua di Gio, or maybe an Acqua di Gio

knockoff).

-- Should I wait some amount of time before applying the gel after the cologne -- I believe I have

read here some recommending to wait until the alcohol dries -- how long does that usually take?

-- Then, I plan

to apply the gel -- the big question is how? I don't mean to sound stupid, but exactly how do I apply --

squeeze some of the gel out on my finger and rub in a circular/back and forth fashion in the target spot? For how

long should I rub? How do I know whether I'm using half the pack or more or less? Can I just put the remaining pack

in a drawer without attempting to close the pack in any way (I'm afraid if I'll close it, I'll accidentally

squeeze out more). Also, when I'm done, do I need to wash my hands -- can I try to rub whatever remains on my

fingers into my hair (and if so, should I have sprayed my hair with cologne first)?

-- What if I use half the

pack and feel it's not enough -- is it okay to use more -- what are the dangers of using more? Supposedly, I won't

OD since this is Perception. Is the only danger possible bad smell, and if so, can I just use an extra spray

of cologne?

-- Also, since I also got TE gel pack too, do you recommend mixing with Perception? If

so, in what proportion and what should the total amount of gel be?

-- Lastly, how come Perception (unlike

TE for example) doesn't list their ingredients? Does anyone know what they are? Does BDC Concepts

(or other manufactures) have a web site?

I'm:

a complete newbie, hetero male, about 5' 3''

+, about 135 lbs, white/Jewish, currently am in the greater metropolitan New York City

area, and my "target" is a female of my age (low 30s) with whom I went to school (we knew each other and were

friendly, but were more acquaintances than friends there) -- have barely kept in touch since then but starting a few

months ago started hanging out -- want to ask her out now

Thank you very much from an

eager newbie

You are always welcome, If

the search feature does not give you any satisfactory answers, then there is the collective knowledge and experience

of forum members to give a gentle bump.