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    I understand about the ambergris

    blending, it must be mixed with something to carry the raw ingredient. My only complaint is that it is mixed with

    something that has a scent of its own, and I'm sure that I smell some oud and sandalwood in the mix. I would

    prefer a blend with an scent-neutral oil. It is a nice scent, but not good for mixing into a perfume unless you

    want the other scents too. The same is true for his civet blend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
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    understand about the ambergris blending, it must be mixed with something to carry the raw ingredient. My only

    complaint is that it is mixed with something that has a scent of its own, and I'm sure that I smell some oud and

    sandalwood in the mix. I would prefer a blend with an scent-neutral oil. It is a nice scent, but not good for mixing

    into a perfume unless you want the other scents too. The same is true for his civet blend.
    You really can't

    determine the quality of an animal product unless it's a pure dilution. Deer musk is an exception, in that it is

    traditionally mixed with sandalwood. However, I believe they use something like "white sandalwood", which doesn't

    have much of a scent, but is a good medium.

    Still, you wonder: If his musks are so good, why not sell them

    straight, when everything else is sold straight?

    I should admit I've never tried one of his products, but am

    always interested to discover new sources.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
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    really can't determine the quality of an animal product unless it's a pure dilution. Deer musk is an exception, in

    that it is traditionally mixed with sandalwood. However, I believe they use something like "white sandalwood", which

    doesn't have much of a scent, but is a good medium.

    Still, you wonder: If his musks are so good, why not sell

    them straight, when everything else is sold straight?

    I should admit I've never tried one of his products, but

    am always interested to discover new sources.
    I didn't know that about deer musk, and having just now

    smelled it I notice a sandalwood scent, it adds a sweetness I think, but isn't real musk a little sweet?. The musk

    is loud and clear though, and is beautiful. He does sell the musk pods alone, and the idea of making my own musk

    oil is exciting but daunting.

    I wonder about not selling them straight too. Would be much more useful.

    His

    Wild Tamil Sandalwood is heaven in a bottle though, and is much better than the other half-dozen sandals I have from

    other sources.

    His Ambergris was quite frankly a disappointment. I've been using a 1% alcohol tincture from

    another source which is so nice. I use a dab of it sometimes when layering mones and scents. It transforms a mix

    into sex in a teapot.

    And then, he has weird stuff like this:

    "No 1 100% Iranian Rose made by tradional

    method. (1980 stocks) US$15 per 6ml"

    Something like that could be wonderful, who knows? If so, it could be a buy

    of the century. You just don't know, which is the main problem with H-F, you have no assurance of what is actually

    in the product, only what you can smell. I've been happy with what I've gotten though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I

    didn't know that about deer musk, and having just now smelled it I notice a sandalwood scent, it adds a sweetness I

    think, but isn't real musk a little sweet?. The musk is loud and clear though, and is beautiful. He does sell the

    musk pods alone, and the idea of making my own musk oil is exciting but daunting.

    I wonder about not selling

    them straight too. Would be much more useful.

    His Wild Tamil Sandalwood is heaven in a bottle though, and is

    much better than the other half-dozen sandals I have from other sources.

    His Ambergris was quite frankly a

    disappointment. I've been using a 1% alcohol tincture from another source which is so nice. I use a dab of it

    sometimes when layering mones and scents. It transforms a mix into sex in a teapot.

    And then, he has weird stuff

    like this:

    "No 1 100% Iranian Rose made by tradional method. (1980 stocks) US$15 per 6ml"

    Something like

    that could be wonderful, who knows? If so, it could be a buy of the century. You just don't know, which is the main

    problem with H-F, you have no assurance of what is actually in the product, only what you can smell. I've been

    happy with what I've gotten though.
    Hi. Yes, good discussion here. I received an email 2 days ago from

    ham_firl informing about he is going for a long vacation. I believed that he sent to some of his buyers which

    include me. Good pricing for some pure oud. I love his Golden ambergriss which he mentioned that he is left with

    6ml, his goldenwhittish & yemeni's ambergriss is also nice, his deer musk oil from China & Himalayan are nice, only

    his cheaper ambergriss (black) is average. And many more. I guess the oil that he has match my taste and he is

    honest to inform that he blend the oil. I do not like alcohol tincture. I must try his Iranian Rose which is so

    cheap. Iranian Rose is not popular and never heard of it. May be it is the no 1 oil from Iran but may not be

    pure. I must try.

    I just bought another deer musk oil from another person who claim that theirs is 100% pure.

    But its rubbish, I paid US$200 per 3ml after bargain. May be it does not suit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passo_s692 View Post
    Hi.

    Yes, good discussion here. I received an email 2 days ago from ham_firl informing about he is going for a long

    vacation. I believed that he sent to some of his buyers which include me. Good pricing for some pure oud. I love his

    Golden ambergriss which he mentioned that he is left with 6ml, his goldenwhittish & yemeni's ambergriss is also

    nice, his deer musk oil from China & Himalayan are nice, only his cheaper ambergriss (black) is average. And many

    more. I guess the oil that he has match my taste and he is honest to inform that he blend the oil. I do not like

    alcohol tincture. I must try his Iranian Rose which is so cheap. Iranian Rose is not popular and never heard of it.

    May be it is the no 1 oil from Iran but may not be pure. I must try.

    I just bought another deer musk oil

    from another person who claim that theirs is 100% pure. But its rubbish, I paid US$200 per 3ml after bargain. May be

    it does not suit me.
    Hi again. I am at Jakarta now and going to Balikpapan in extreme eastern part of

    Indonesia for my project work. Before leaving, I received the Pure Iranian Rose, its lovely for the price. And I

    also purchased sandalIranian Rose. Its also nice for the price. I love it. My girl & neighbour love it too.

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    hey all,

    I too got assam oudh

    & tamil sandalwood from ham_firl. My main purpose was to strengthen my meditations and trust me, these two oils aid

    very well. The fragrance lasts till next morning, when I wake up. I havn't noticed any great effects on others as

    yet, just few heads turned to notice me.

    I also got WhitishGolden ambergriss....it seems just about OK.....nuthin

    great to report.


    Wanted to know, whats civet oil used for??? and can anyone suggest a good source for buying

    nutmeg EO???

    thanks all for creating sucha wonderful thread

    helius

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    Quote Originally Posted by helius9 View Post
    hey

    all,

    I too got assam oudh & tamil sandalwood from ham_firl. My main purpose was to strengthen my meditations and

    trust me, these two oils aid very well. The fragrance lasts till next morning, when I wake up. I havn't noticed any

    great effects on others as yet, just few heads turned to notice me.

    I also got WhitishGolden ambergriss....it

    seems just about OK.....nuthin great to report.


    Wanted to know, whats civet oil used for??? and can anyone

    suggest a good source for buying nutmeg EO???

    thanks all for creating sucha wonderful thread



    helius
    Glad its working well for you. Those oils are definitely tenacious. I layer them

    with each other and with pheromones with good success. I use the sandal on its own sometimes for my daily scent.



    I agree about the "whitish/golden" ambergris. I'm no expert, but I think ambergris just works better in

    alcohol. Ham Firl's mix seems to muffle the exalting nature of the scent. Here's a link to a great tincture

    I've bought and use often to great effect. The 3% is more expensive of course but much

    nicer.

    http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/N...ambergris.html

    Civet is a traditional

    perfume ingredient. DST can give a better answer, but it provides an animalic note and fixes other scents. I can

    smell it in some vintage perfumes I have.

    For nutmeg EO just do a search for it. There are a lot of suppliers

    and the ones I've used and like are Eden Botanicals, Snowdrift Farm, Liberty Natural Products, etc etc. Look also

    at the link above. Linda Andrews is really nice and helpful. What do you want the nutmeg for?
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