Quote Originally Posted by HK45Mark23
Your experience is more similar

to my experience. I have recently dated a girl who is 24 and has vowed to wait till marriage. So yeah she is a

virgin. Any way, she is also a Christian country girl. She has almost never dated, never had a boyfriend. She is

introverted, shy and definitely not out going.

The first date; I was wearing Alter Ego, one drop. We went to a Jazz gig

of my fathers and it happened to also be the Kentucky Derby

party.

I used to

race horses, and she owns a few for her riding pleasure. She smiled at me the whole day. I asked her to my place

and she said yes. I had offered to show her my pictures from the race track days, as well as we both are drummers.

So I show her my Axis peddle.

Well this shy introverted Christian virgin country girl and I sat at my sofa looking at pictures. By the

end of my pictures we were snuggled up close. For the next 5 hours we just snuggled and hugged, no

kissing.

Mind you

this is our first time together. I had not clue that she was all of the things I have described her

as.

So then I take

her home after we were together nine and a half hours.

The next time we talk she tells me that she is all of those things and she

did not know what came over her and why she acted that away. She said that she thinks too much and she is not sure

she wants to pursue a relationship with me. This is because she is so shy and introverted and not outgoing that she

is afraid of letting go and afraid of what may happen. She is scare to test the

waters.

So I had

just gotten my LT in. I told her, “I would like to meat you and let’s just talk.” Of course I wore the

LT.

Well she was

totally comfortable and happy when she was with me and again we hug for an extended

period.

Then she

goes home and tells me again she really does not want to talk to me any more or spend time together any

more.

Then she has

an auto break down and I was the closes to her so she calls me. Again I use the LT and low and behold I take her to

her home. This is where we mess with her horses and I perform tasks with them that she and her family don’t have

the skills to do and we spent several hours together. And again she hugs me for at least 20 min, smelling my neck

at the application points.

I say to her, “so you trust me now?” She says, “unbelievably yeah.” I say, “you are comfortable around

me?” She says, “I am almost never comfortable, but yeah I am totally

comfortable.”

So

she invites me over to watch a movie with her, an old movie with horses, evidently one of her

favorites.

Again I

am wearing LT and either Alter Ego or Chikara. Again she hugs me for ever at the end of the night (Then night ended

at 1:30am). I tell her, I know that when I leave you will have second thoughts again. She said no she did not think

so but the next day after her sisters Hunter Jumper/Dressage event, she cuts off all communications

again.

I get an

email stating that she no longer wanted to spend time with me and here was the number to her friend who also has

horses and is much more out going than she, and whose maybe more my speed and able to handle me better.

Ahahahahahaha

So

any way, now I am seeing both girls. I have a date with both of them

tomorrow.

I am

noticing that when I am with her, she is frisky, comfortable and fairly open, but when left to her own devices and

there is no euphoria from LT or Pheromones she then is more rational and freaks out on the emotions and feelings

she has when around me.

OK so tomorrow on my “double

date”(dating two girls at the same place and time) I will wear LT and lets see if both of them hug me at the end of

the evening. I will also see how the evening plays out, if the date is extend beyond the prior plans and ultimately

include alternative endings. My next curiosity is who will last the longest. Who will want to go home first? Will

both girls want to hang out for an extended period of time? Will both be touchy feely? Will both hug me? Stay

tuned for the results! Same Phero/LT channel! Same Phero/LT time!
...seems to

me there was brief discussion in the forum (probably started by me, ironically; but senility has apparently struck)

about one of our pheromones being good for minimizing that "freak out when away from you" syndrome, but I forget

which one. I've had that happen to me a lot over the years, the passionate guy that I am.

Maybe it was A1 or

a314 (-rone)? That seems logical.

I think it's almost a mild OD symptom, too; a characteristic of heavy

-none/laCroy mixes. You get a great time in the moment, but pay for it "tomorrow" if still interested in the

person.

I remember thinking you had to compromise between momentary thrills and long term prospects. Maybe

somebody remembers the brief mention of the issue...

I don't have the problem much any more, but I've also

gotten better at controlling my passions with women. You don't want to just take what they'll give you, but you

want to share responsibility for controlling the situation. Sometimes you want to cut off the progress of passions

yourself. That makes the woman feel safer, knowing she can let herself go and you'll keep her safe from herself to

some extent (setting aside, for the moment, the problems with this idea). Sometimes you want to be the disciplined

one, or make sure they don't do anything until they're really believing they're ready.

In your case, you

might have cut off the hugging way before she would have, stating your concerns of moving too fast. That makes it

easier for her to want you for the next time, and not feel freaked out. It's a definite skill to learn,

especially with some women who might be easily frightened.