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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Nice

    comprehensive post TG, glad you made it to the forum.

    You're right, dosing is critical, especially when you

    start to mix. I take sabbaticals regularly and wear nothing for a few days, just to "clear out the chems". As for

    the PUA game, there are a few members here who are into that. I never could get past some of the less tasteful

    terminology.

    Agree with Rbt on timing. I've had a few fast reactions, but it seems that if you can hang

    with someone for 10-15 mins they've gotten a nose full, and enough time to process it.
    Thanks for your

    comments, I'd like to talk with you further about proper usage and dosing techniques as that is obviously and issue

    that I need to master.

    The thing that attracted me to the PUA "community" is that they've organized and

    correlated the Dating Skillset and set them down in a logical cohesive way and established a language by which MEN

    can make some sense of their sexuality and gain more control of their love lives.

    I would say that as a man I've

    done better than most, as an unconcious & oblivious "natural", I enjoyed many wonderful joyful, exciting, encounters

    and experiences with many wonderful beautiful women over the years. I have no regrets. I have been married, enjoyed

    many LTRs, One Nighters, Threesomes, 5 minute lays etc.... long, long before anyone ever thought of the term "PickUp

    Artist".

    My difference was that I got "hooked up" with women pretty much "by accident" due to my basic good

    looks, fairly healthy, manly physique, and
    fairly charming, friendly, outgoing, & charismatic personality

    etc...

    I pretty much thought of the man-woman things as a matter of "luck", and that I was just a guy who was

    "luckier" than most of the other guys. There were also other guys that I knew who were "luckier" than I was as

    well....

    The knowledgebase of social and sexual skils and understandings that have been developed over the last

    10 years by the PUA community pretty much frees a man from the business of "luck" when it comes to women.

    Using

    the PUA skillset, I can approach, open, date & mate the woman I want, when I want, anywhere, anytime "on purpose" &

    not "by accident" and the outcome is pretty much determined by my skillset and not by "luck" or "fate"...

    The

    moral aspect of whether or not I chose to date & mate the one fantastic woman of my dreams or keep a harem of many

    beautiful women, is one of personal choice, but the fact still remains I need the same skillset to bed either one

    woman or 20.....

    All the best,

    TG

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    When you think about it, dosing

    is everything once you figure out which pheromone does what. That's why most of us stress -use products

    individually and learn their properties before mixing-
    .

    Once you have that knowledge, you'll know

    something about your body chemistry (I can bathe in -None, or not), and you'll know how the "big three" work for

    you in individual situations. You'll also know which -Mones cause what reactions from others, on their

    own.

    Knowing all that, you can work out a plan like: ok, SoE gets me great friendly hits with 12-15", and I ODed

    easily on NPA, so, knowing from what I read that they're complimentary, why don't I try 1 drop NPA, spread around,

    with 15" of SoE spread on the same places. If you get an OD, you'll know that you should perhaps try the weaker TE

    instead of NPA.

    Getting decent reactions from that mix? Experiment with A7 with the same SoE application and

    see how that happens. A7's added -Rone will shift your signature, observe the difference.

    I also think dosing

    changes should be done in very small increments, esp -None, and esp esp NPA. Nol products like SoE are pretty much

    non-ODable.

    Standalones like AE and C7 are just a matter for experimentation, and should be approached

    differently. Start with, say, C7 as a base, then "tweak" it in the direction you'd like it to go. None for more

    sexual, A314 for more authority, SoE for more friendly. You get the idea.

    Of course these are my own opinions.

    Reserve the right to be, well, you know, like, totally wrong.
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    For the benefit of others reading

    this thread, I offer a few thoughts:

    I know there are some who totally reject the idea of the PUA "community"

    and materials, and I grant there are some guys out there who get far too "technical" and tied into a "plan." (And I

    personally think some of what I've seen is crap. Some is good. Some ain't.)

    But I have also been seeing in a

    lot of social psychology and anthropological literature that there is more and more a belief amongst professionals

    that not only social skills and behaviors (appropriate to the culture) AND the sexual "game" itself, despite the old

    song about "doin' what comes naturally", has to be *learned.*

    Part of the key is finding what works for you,

    and making it a "natural" part of you.

    Just an interjection...
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    Interesting remarks Rbt. I

    can't disagree really. Maybe its me but I've never warmed up to learning "techniques". Its always been my

    thought that if you improve yourself in whatever aspects of life your can, you'll naturally become a more

    attractive person. In particular, you'll become more attractive to the kind of person you want to be with. For

    me, it goes far beyond just looks, but I've never dated an "ugly".

    I have to admit to a general

    disinterest in "scoring" for its own sake. I'm pretty sexually driven, but I've always found more satisfaction in

    longer term and more well developed relationships. Maybe my disinterest in "hot babes" plays along the grounds of a

    PUA's "technique", ie they'll want you because you don't want them. No matter. Then again, this may be part of

    what you mean when you talk about "making it a natural part of you".

    This is not a criticism of those who's

    goals and methods are different from my own. Just a different take.

    another interjection...

    cheers all


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Interesting remarks Rbt. I can't disagree really. Maybe its me but I've never warmed up to

    learning "techniques". Its always been my thought that if you improve yourself in whatever aspects of life your can,

    you'll naturally become a more attractive person. In particular, you'll become more attractive to the kind of

    person you want to be with. For me, it goes far beyond just looks, but I've never dated an "ugly".

    I have

    to admit to a general disinterest in "scoring" for its own sake. I'm pretty sexually driven, but I've always found

    more satisfaction in longer term and more well developed relationships. Maybe my disinterest in "hot babes" plays

    along the grounds of a PUA's "technique", ie they'll want you because you don't want them. No matter. Then again,

    this may be part of what you mean when you talk about "making it a natural part of you".

    This is not a

    criticism of those who's goals and methods are different from my own. Just a different take.

    another

    interjection...

    cheers all

    "ie they'll want you because you don't want them."

    And thats

    something I keep trying to figure out, its not the same in every situation with everyone and following this as a die

    hard rule I dont think is a good idea.

    Good example, I was at Laguna Beach last Sat, walked up on this super

    beautiful blonde on the street, told her "wow" she was beautiful, let party...she went crazy, hugged me with all her

    fluffy blonde hair (ahhh that felt good), almost got her out to the club but she was going to meet her sister and

    come over with her.

    Ignoring her on the street, would have meant no encounter at all, but it seems the same

    with most girls. Some of the young, young ones I think is when it works, ignore them and treat them like they are

    nobody and you might get thier attention.

    Girls are funny people, never easy to figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumprunner View Post
    "ie

    they'll want you because you don't want them."

    And thats something I keep trying to figure out, its not the

    same in every situation with everyone and following this as a die hard rule I dont think is a good idea.

    Good

    example, I was at Laguna Beach last Sat, walked up on this super beautiful blonde on the street, told her "wow" she

    was beautiful, let party...she went crazy, hugged me with all her fluffy blonde hair (ahhh that felt good), almost

    got her out to the club but she was going to meet her sister and come over with her.

    Ignoring her on the street,

    would have meant no encounter at all, but it seems the same with most girls. Some of the young, young ones I think

    is when it works, ignore them and treat them like they are nobody and you might get thier attention.

    Girls are

    funny people, never easy to figure out.
    I think ID's point is based on general society rather than club

    environments. I'm not a clubber either but get plenty of good, solid hits by acting as if it doen't matter who

    likes me. The prettiest girls often get ignored if I don't like their personality or attitude and that often

    results in their approaching me.

    As for relationships and sex for points, I'm in agreement with ID. Never have

    been interested in the casual 'Get laid and go away' thing always prefering a longer term situation where we can

    get to know each others likes, dislikes and personalities. There is a lot to be said to waking up with a pretty

    woman beside you on a daily basis and spending time living life together.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    I

    think ID's point is based on general society rather than club environments. I'm not a clubber either but get

    plenty of good, solid hits by acting as if it doen't matter who likes me. The prettiest girls often get ignored if

    I don't like their personality or attitude and that often results in their approaching me.

    As for relationships

    and sex for points, I'm in agreement with ID. Never have been interested in the casual 'Get laid and go away'

    thing always prefering a longer term situation where we can get to know each others likes, dislikes and

    personalities. There is a lot to be said to waking up with a pretty woman beside you on a daily basis and spending

    time living life together.
    you guys are giving good advice here

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    12\03\08
    TE gp\C7 gp\Old

    Spice.

    Today I went out into various malls and shops to both open women and see if the pheromones had an effect.

    I approached and opened 5 women with mostly lame openers, but once the women got a "whiff" of me they would step

    closer into my space and would continue the convo to stay within "smelling" range... when I stepped away slightly

    they would step forward. I noticed that in every case ther women were happy, smilling, and "enjoying" the encounter.

    they seemed almost energized. I'm able to get a woman into that "state" using my dating skillset, but I'm sensing

    something else is going on more than just a woman's normal response to my usual PUA approaching, opening,

    skillset.

    I'm willing to postulate here that men and women are hard wired to respond to pheromones at a lower

    brain level
    and that it's taking over at a much more basic level regardless of what kinds of upper mind rational

    processes are going on at the time.

    I'm sensing almost a "need" to keep smelling the pheromones on the part of

    the women.... So once the woman determines albeit unconsciously that you are the source of the pheromone

    "attraction" she's going to unconsciously WANT to stay close to you.... until social conditioning or other factors

    break her out of her trance and drop her out of state...hopefully by then I will have established enough connection,

    attraction, rapport, trust, etc... using my PUA skillset that I can nclose, dclose or even mini-date or venue change

    her.

    In each of the encounters, once the women got a good "whiff" of me they kept chatting away and engaging me

    and didn't stop until I pulled away and "bailed".

    Do any of you Phero-Gurus know exactly what the biology and

    science that's involved? I'd really like to know.

    I had an interesting encounter at a gym which I figured to be

    a pretty pheromone intensive location, with lots of "real" human pheromones comming from multiple sources. I opened

    one woman and fairly soon I had three other women standing near me not exactly engaging directly with me but just

    standing around smiling, happy, DIHL "sniffing" pheromones ????? I was amazed to seen that the "store bought"

    pheromones were "out performing" all the human pheromones from all the other sweaty buff guys and gals sweating away

    at the gym.... This is begining to get very interesting for me

    The last encounter of the day was pretty good. I

    found a nice HB9 sitting about 10-15 feet away from me within 5-10 minutes she gave me IOI, dropped her eyes, DIHL,

    hair flip/twirl, watery eyes, then gave me an ass shot then a boob shot and then she walked accross a room and

    touched me... I could swear I could hear her "sniffing" me... She was all smiles and very energized., once she

    determined that I was the source of the "smell" she never stepped more than 5 feet away from me... I had to go to

    work and I was running out of time so I had to bail out of the set before I could nclose or dclose the HB9.

    The

    pheromones will "open the door" for you, but you still have to "walk through the door", and "be the man" and close

    her.

    I'm really starting to really enjoy this stuff!

    All the best guys!

    TG

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    Nice reports, Mr. Parker!



    You're using the entire gel packs? Would love to know your application points with TE & C7.

    Thanks!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57 View Post
    Nice

    reports, Mr. Parker!

    You're using the entire gel packs? Would love to know your application points with

    TE & C7.

    Thanks!
    Please call me TG!

    I've been experimenting with 1/4gp 1/2gp 2/3gp and 1 full

    gp.... I seem to od very easily so LESS IS MORE.

    All the best,

    TG

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    12/04/08

    NPA\C7\Old Spice

    Cologne.

    Did some more random fairly lame "street openers" and "cold walk-ups" for warm up... Pheros definitely

    help.

    Starting to notice the "mone" build-up of "cat pee" smell despite showering.

    I remember that I have salt

    scrub remind myself to do a salt scrub next time I shower.

    Cute young hb comes and sits next to me in coffee

    shop. let's hair down, hair flip/twirl, does make up, squirms around in the chair, face, neck, and chest flushes

    red, boob shot, ass shot, touches me. brief convo, etc... nice IOI.

    Asian chick at work pays lot's of attention

    lot's of looks, IOI, "volunteering" and "helping" me lot's of smiling and eventually touches me... Totally

    unexpected response ... pleasant surprise usually Asian chicks reserved, cautious, etc... and don't talk to white

    guys... Note I was doing some lifting and my sweating may have helped to disperse pheros and combo of my "real"

    pheros and "store bought may have done the trick for the asian chick.

    All the best,

    TG
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