I\'m glad that everyone seems to have liked my tiny bit of research.

Just some quick answers and comments to what\'s been said thus far. Forgive me fore combining everything in one reply but I think it will flow better and help everyone --

Paul:

Regarding oil v. alcohol, I can say with some certainty that any substance using oil as a carrier is going to be released more slowly than with alcohol (ethanol). This is simply because the ethanol evaporates so quickly, and with evaporation will either take more pheromones with it, or leave a concentration of \"loose\" pheromones on whatever surface it was placed on.

FYI, there\'s some evidence that using ethanol for a carrier of phermones has a negative effect. (See http://wwwpsy.uni-muenster.de/inst2/maiworm/pub5.html ) Note that this completely dispells the myth that alcohol damages phermones, but it does support the idea that using alcohol for a carrier is a bad idea. In any case, the study results suggests wait until it\'s evaporated before presenting yourself to women.

Regarding hot weather, I have read quite a few items that suggest androstenone is a bacterial break-down product of anderstenol. Given that it\'s already broken down, I would imaging that what\'s happening is that sweat is simply diluting or washing away the \'none -- I doubt it\'s \"breaking down\" more, since it already is broken, so to speak. Note that sweat would do the same to \'nol, while at the same time making a nice environment for bacterial to convert the \'nol back to \'none.

As I read more, I increasingly get the sense that things might work much better with more androstenol -- after all, it\'s going to become androstenone in time anyway. A few of studies I\'ve read indicate that \'none is often percieved negatively, and is percieved as \"neutral\" only during ovulation. Other studies seem to show more positive effects. Androstenol, on the other hand, seems to only be viewed positively. One more interesting writeup called \'nol the \"pillow talk\" pheromone, and it pretty clearly instills submission and post-coital pair-bonding feelings in women.

zcat:
I wonder if your pheromones wearing out faster on the skin has something to do with the sweating issue? Is the skin under clothing or exposed?

Bubbafero:
I\'ll start reading for npa and attraction, but the two sprays of APC/NPA mix definitely fell into the upper part of the range -- 0.032mg. I\'d argue that 1 1/2 sprays would be closer to the target range.

Writer guy:
I agree the most interesting area for experiments is at the bottom end of the range. Since we\'ve got a \"top end\" where overdose occurs, the minimalist would help determine what the best range of application is. The main thing we need here is reports of hits at low dosages -- since we\'ve got reports of \"no hits\" at all dosages.

The other area that I really, really would like to explore is androstenol v. \'none. I\'m pretty sure that all the overdose effects we\'ve seen come from \'none. My gut feel is that we could go much heavier on the androstenol without any negative effects. Also, despite reports that androstenol stinks, women apparently find androstenol sweet-smelling from the studies I\'ve read, so it\'s probably a better candidate to up the dosage on.

Does anyone know of any androstenol-only products? (Especially if stone labs has one?)

Scientist