Hey Doc, shine on and keep on
pluckin' brother!
Hey everybody, long time no see. I've missed everybody.
I've been busy with my psychology practice, family,
and musical projects lately; and haven't had much time for pheromones. Like most of you, I have interests besides
pheromones and perfumery.
But I decided to stop by to order some products from Bruce, and noticed a suprising
number of critical references to my past discourse about pheromones and perfumery on the forum, from one particular
member. It was suprising because I haven't been here in a long time.
I have no interest in engaging in a
debate, or saying a bunch of stuff about someone else; but I just wanted to make my positions clear, since someone
has been attributing certain things to me in my "absence". I'm not going to include the original criticisms,
because I want to devote as little space and energy to this as possible.
1. My anonymity: I prefer to
remain anonymous because my professional clinical practice with families takes precedence over my life in
pheromones; over being "a guy who helps you get laid", or something. I don't want to mix up public identities. It
always seemed the most responsible path.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with some attempt to market pheromones
or hide who I really am, as was intimated. There are people here who know me and my professional qualifications
(PhD, psychology), such as Bruce and some of the moderators. For that matter, one of the people who I once told my
real name, employment, and place of education to was the same person remarking negatively on my anonymity. The whole
issue of my anonymity seems silly and trivial.
2. My product and claims: I never made scientific claims
about my product, Pheros, which was a personal labor of love that was started long before I decided to market
it, as Bruce could attest. Every statement I ever made is on record here. I wanted to make a contribution to the
phero community as well as sell something. I wrote a lot about perfuming here, and people had been asking me to make
something for Love Scent.
My product came out of the perfumery and aromatherapy traditions by design, and was
designed to fill a niche that no one else came close to targeting. It was always designed to supplement, not
supplant, "chem lab approaches".
You have to rely on traditions and histories, not scientific research, in
those worlds. There are bits and pieces of science you can incorporate, but I was never aiming at "hard science" --
just to be true to the traditions and see what they could offer. I still believe there is a unique role for both
traditional perfumery and aromatherapy in attraction. Why can't all disciplines cooperate toward the same goal? I
wasn't coming at that project from a strictly scientific place, and always made that clear. A brief search on my
product under my forum name would confirm all this, of course; not that anyone should care enough to look it all
up.
3. My scientific debates on pheromones: On the other hand, I do claim to pass muster as someone very
conversant -- professionally conversant -- in science, psychology, human relationships, statistics and research
design/methodogy, because that is my professional training. No big deal. My advisor and some of my committee were
prominent experts in research design and methods, and I was forced to get good in that area to get them to let me
out of grad school. (The person claiming that I somehow "tossed aside the science" has an associate's or
bachelor's degree in lab tech, IIRC, so I don't take their word as the last on how scientific I am.)
When I
discussed pheromone science, I stuck with the rules and discipline of science, though trying to avoid the overly
narrow approach that so often screws up science's contribution to the rest of life. I considered the science before
I wrote anything; and I stand by the scientific integrity of everything I've ever said in this forum (which is
different from saying I was always right). This is no big deal either, as you would expect a PhD in science to be
scientific. Again, it's all on record here.
What I did was disagree with someone else's interpretation or
critical review of the science and research we were considering. We both read it, and I saw it different than they
did. In particular, I disagreed strongly with drawing certain overarching conclusions about human nature,
psychology, and relationships from the body of pheromone research.
I was qualified to do that, given that I was
professionally trained to design, produce, and critically evaluate human science research. That is just normal
scientific debate, even at its most "scientific". It was precisely my experience in human science, along with
several years of previous interest in pheromones, that led me to those disagreements.
I regret that those
debates sometimes became emotional in a negative way. That happens when you have fallible humans with egos; for
example, myself.
4. Finally, Archetypal Hybrid and I are indeed different persons -- lucky for him! Congrats
to him on his new products, BTW!
I hope everyone had a great holiday and New Year's celebration!
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DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Hey Doc, shine on and keep on
pluckin' brother!
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Hey Doc, Good to see you again.
Hope to have you back posting and active here once more. Missed your input.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
whoa, it has been a while.
looking forward to seeing more of you.
Thanks, guys. Yeah, Gegogi, we
have to keep pluckin! Hope you've been keepin' 'em in line, Bel!
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Doc,
It's great to have
you back. I always spoke highly of your product for what it is and still use it as that special cologne for those
special nights. IT'S THE BEST DAMN SMELLING THING THAT I HAVE EVER WORN!!! I bought mine about 2 years ago and if
you could answer 2 quick questions, I would really appreciate it.
1) Does it expire? It has seemed to weaken with
time.
2) Have you changed anything since I bought mine? If I remember correctly it was one of fifty bottles
made.
Welcome back!
Thanks for the question. I'm gladOriginally Posted by Marlboro_man
you liked it.
Unfortunately, I agree with you that it weakens with time. The little bottle I sat on my desk,
unsheltered from the sunlight, is now just a shadow of its former self.
I didn't put an expiration date on it
simply because I had no idea how long it would last, being an organic product.
Many commercial perfumes lose
quality after a year or so, but I hoped it would last longer than that because it was heavy on bass notes, musky,
and earthy ingredients. (Citrusy, top-notey scents have a shorter life. Pure musks have been known to hold their
scent for hundreds of years.)
At the time and thereafter, people asked me how long it would last. I would
tell them I didn't know, because it was organic; but to keep it away from heat and light.
If you bought one
of the fifty bottles you got the collector's edition and (reusable) bottle. I did refine the formula slightly once
or twice after that.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
back DST!!!
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
Like bringing coals to Newcastle,
but I missed you too. Hope you stick around. We'll watch your back this time.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
(back)
Hey
Doctor
Really a loong time no see..
Hope you got the time now to stick around here again..
Good to know it wasn't just my imagination. I guess IOriginally Posted by DrSmellThis
know what will be part of my next order for sure!
Bruce,
The store says that it's still the special edition
available. Is this true and if so how old is it? I want to order it again but don't want a bottle that't too old
and half dead per se.
Um... it's been around for a
while.
Maybe it's time for a new Doc creation. We were talking about it for a while.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
How long is a while?Originally Posted by Bruce
I really do love it but I am concerned with buying it again if that's
the case. I still have some left (about 2 years old) but it's safe to say that it's just about dead. Smell fades
very, very quickly. Please keep me informed with any development or new product by DOC. and I will be the first to
buy it. Hopefully he can out do himself (if that's possible)
Great to see you around, Doc!
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
Thanks, Holmes. Great to hear
from you. Maybe Bel or Oscar can give you my email address, (with my permission) since the PM system is dead
here, and you can let me know what you've been up to.
I've been pretty intensively into my music lately.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
That would be great. (bel? Oscar?
Bruce?)
Glad to hear that you've been pursuing your music. Would love to hear a sample or two
sometime.
Got a myspace?
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
I'll take care of it.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Got it. Many thanks, bel!
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
Happy to help and sorry that
things are such that we have to use such round about methods.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I have a myspace, but nothing
on it yet. I'm a little green yet with the computer and web part of music. I do have some nice guitar tracks
recorded, however. I just am now figuring out how to download those onto my own hard drive, to give you an idea of
how naive and behind the times I am.
Thanks, Bel.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Thanks,Originally Posted by Bruce
Bruce. It's also fun to gild lilies, preach to choirs, and sell ice boxes to eskimos.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Holmes, still waiting for that
email!! There may be a track or three in it for you, since you are a music junkie.
(P.S. All I will say about
the latest "debate" in the pheromone discussion involving "one particular forum member" is, "Wow! If I had a
nickel...")
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
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