Quote Originally Posted by Sacogoo
This is the second

time i\'m using creatine. First time i used it was about four years ago, and I used it for about two months. I got

great results, so I figured I\'d give it another whirl now that I\'m back in the gym after a three year

layoff.

I\'ve been back in the gym for three months, and have been on a creatine cycle for about 2 of those

months. The creatine I\'ve been using has been the GNC Creadrive, which is a carb/creatine mix with Taurine.

I\'ve been taking one serving per day, which equals approximately 5 grams of creatine per day, although on some

days, I have taken two servings. I\'ve also been taking one serving of EAS Betagen once per day, which contains an

additional 2.5 grams of creatine as well as 1 gram of HMB and 2 grams of glutamine. A daily multi-vitamin (Sam\'s

Club) has also been in the rotation.

For the past month I\'ve also been taking a whey protein (GNC\'s

\"100% Whey\", which has 20 grams of protein per serving) supplement twice per day. I\'ve also just finished a

one month cycle of NO2, which I do not plan on continuing as I did not notice any positive effects with this

particular product.

Withing the last two weeks I\'ve added 500 mg of HMB (GNC) twice per day, and within the

last week, I\'ve been taking 2 grams of CLA per day (Twin Labs CLA Fuel).

Food consumption during the day is

excellent, with no alcohol, plenty of lean meats (turkey, tuna, chicken, beef, eggs), fresh vegetables from my

garden, etc.

Gains have been excellent, with very noticeable increases in definition, size and strength, while

lowering bodyfat.

I\'ve got what appears to be about two weeks left of the creatine, and once it\'s gone,

I\'ll go on a one month off cycle so that I don\'t crap out my kidneys one morning. Once I\'m off the

creatine, I plan on adding an additional 5 to 10 grams of glutamine (GNC Mega Glutamine) per day. I also will add

ZMA supplement (Cytodyne Tech Cyclo Z-Mass, which also has a \"testrobolic blend\" which claims to increase

testosterone production within the body) and a hemiliodator (Met-Rx O2FX) even though the NO2 I used previously had

no noticeable effect. (The concept behind hemiliodation seems to have some valid points.)

My questions are:



1. Is a month too long or too short for an \"off-cycle\" of the creatine? Can I get away with less as I really

enjoy the massive pump I get while working out, as well as the energy and strength increases?

2. Can I/Should I

continue taking the EAS Betagen, which has only 2.5 grams of creatine? Is this amount low enough to be considered as

\"not taking creatine\" during my off cycle?

3. Should I increase the HMB from the current intake of 2

grams?

4. Is the 5 to 10 grams of glutamine enough?

5. Anything else I need to look at as far as adding

supplement wise? (I\'m not really that interested in supplementing with prohormone products as I don\'t want to

worry about the possible side effects - unless these worries are unfounded.)

I\'d like to keep most of the

strength gains while off the creatine, but I don\'t want to have to take eight billion supplements in order to do

so.

Advice and input, looney or sane, is mucho appreciate.

Thanks.
Geez! A younger Mobley ... taking

everything under the sun!

As a 47 year old, took just about any and every supplement that came out. I have

narrowed my products down to 4, after all these years ... Whey & casein proteins, glutamine, and creatine ... plus

the vitamins. STOP. Right now, my protein intake is ONLY an hour before (20 grams with 5 grams of glutamine, and 5

grams of creatine), immediately after my workout (40 grams with 10 grams of glutamine, and 5 grams of creatine).

After I come back from California in December, I'm off creatine until March. The CLA sounds like a good addition

(Omeg-3s, right?) ... you can never go wrong with that. The key things about the choice of proteins is finding out,

who's guilty of using those bad fillers! PLUS .... WATER .... A gallon a day will make your balls

sway!

WARNING: ALLLLLLLLL roid users WILL pay. There are

NO exceptions! Unless asked, I will never say/type this again.