Very strange indeed .. judging from your previous posts and PMs between you and me, I would have thought SOE would have been satisfactory for you. I am not familiar with SOE directly, but since the mones in it are RONE and NOL, I would have thought that it would have been ideal for you. Unless the scent is not desirable?? Even more strange when you say you get DIHLs from guys, because RONE has been pegged as the mone that communicates hetero-ness (somebody else\'s word) in a male. Strange indeed ... I\'ll keep in touch with you, but my current experiments are with the exact same mones as in SOE ...