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    Quote Originally Posted by chas View Post
    No - leave

    some money poking out of your wallet & dab some 'eau de money' or 'eau de ferrari' behind both ears.

    (If you

    haven't got the Ferrari then get a Ferrari key ring & swing it around your finger. You can always get the bus home

    if there are no hits ....)
    Chas, I can't tell if you're joking or not with this one. You seem like a

    together guy so I'll assume you're joking. I drive a pretty nice car these days, and that's the last thing I

    want a woman to see.

    Flaunting wealth/possessions is NOT what you want. There's no mystery behind that kind of

    crass showmanship, much like being a loudmouth about what you've done or claim to have done. Smart dressing is

    good but yes, understated is best, with an eye toward your own age and environment. You don't want people to

    notice your clothes, you want them to notice YOU.

    Think about it... mystery is all about making people wonder who

    you are, while projecting a desirable personae.

    Rbt nailed a very good post, and Bel's comments followed up.

    My own natural approach is quiet. I like to arrive and depart with nobody noticing. I make my mark, leave either

    alone or with someone, and don't really care how it ends. I'm happy to "court" a desired "target", and leave her

    wondering if I'll make a move the next time, or when I'll call. I'm also happy to move right in when the

    situation seems good, and flows naturally.

    Mystery is about confidence and patience. An alpha male is not

    desperate, but strong and willing to wait and do without, knowing that in the end he'll probably win. If not, his

    losses become strength for the next time.

    Mystery is not an act, and can't be faked. That sort of thing can

    "win" in the short term, but you'll end up playing a game with yourself and everyone else in a nightly carnival

    show.

    All of these things amount to who you are, not what you do. Its been said many times here and elsewhere

    that the best strategy is to make yourself into someone desirable.

    Again, its been said, pheromones are a tool.

    With some experience you can match them with your own style and approach then tweak them up, down or sideways to the

    situation at hand.

    HM - Laughter is always good. It projects a happy and positive vibe to everyone around. It

    allows other to see that you're not hung up on "game" and if its natural then you're being yourself and not a

    bot.

    One of the first rules of social etiquette is to not be self centered. Paying more attention to others not

    only is more polite, but much more interesting. Listening is not only more rewarding than talking, but it projects,

    yes, mystery. I don't know how many times a woman has stopped talking suddenly and said to me "I'm just telling

    you everything, and I don't know anything about you!" That's exactly the point when you can have some fun and

    gather them into the fold.

    BUT, mystery has its downsides. I've also been told that a woman who had interest in

    me did not show signs because she was unsure. Had I known that at the time, I would have jumped on that interest.

    Its all part of learning the Salsa and not being Brasilian.


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    "BUT, mystery has its

    downsides. I've also been told that a woman who had interest in me did not show signs because she was unsure. Had I

    known that at the time, I would have jumped on that interest. Its all part of learning the Salsa and not being

    Brasilian." -- Idesign.

    You make good points, and this is the most important one above. At what point do you

    stop being mysterious and instead be aggressive?

    And how do you pull it off without looking like your a

    schizo!

    I assume most people don't switch between mystery aura one day and aggressive the next. Others who

    see them day to day would wonder if they're schizo or putting on an act.

    The secret I guess is in knowing

    when to be what, and having that come off as real. The best actors have what it takes to push the right buttons to

    get what they want in the end, mystery just being a means to the end.

    After all how many people just want to

    be mysterious? They probably want women to chase them; set the bait and wait. Men are altogether caught into a

    trap of being the aggressor, and most women can see it coming from a mile away.

    My only concern here is if

    its very beautiful women one are after, they usually set the bait themselves and have men chase them so how would a

    mysterious man get beautiful women chasing him?

    It would be like two defensive boxers trying to play a game

    of boxing. In the end no one makes a move.

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    I like your curiousity and your

    questions. There are many ways to achieve this and I could probably say a few things but I will cut to the chase and

    give u a short-cut. REgarding your questions about clothing type, nice body, color of clothes. These should all come

    after you attain a myserious mind. If your mind is not mysterious and you wear black clothing with a sexy body, the

    woman will recognize this the moment shes with you. Woman can sniff if a man is really what he portrays himself to

    be.

    So my best advice is the following:

    - Dont think to much, trust in your manly instincts
    - You are the

    master of your surrounding...act like it. Stand with authority and when you look into a womens eyes (or anyones)

    look at them like you sincereley appreciate them.
    - Excercise. Control your sex drive.
    - When you compliment a

    women, either really mean it...or dont bother saying it and trying to impress her.

    These are just a few...its up

    to look deeper in yourself and figure how things will work out for you.

    Being mysterious isnt something you just

    learn in a day or two. Its part of your character. In my experience, being alpha is mysterious in its own right. CAn

    you walk into a room and really not look at anyone for the first 20 minutes....

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    Have any of you purchased these 2 books?

    It seems Mystery Method is about a stud's version of

    approaching chicks who frequents bars and nightclubs and how to lay them.

    It seems "The Game" by Strauss

    isabout how to be more subtle and coax a woman (different types) into bed or relationships.


    What are your

    thoughts of these? Do you think Mysteries Method is better suited for confident types of guy?

    Do you think

    The Game is better suited for nerds.

    Can you be a stud looking guy and still get away with approaches like

    "the game"? Or do you have to come across as more of a harmless weasel?

    Lastly do any of you guys have

    experiences to detail with these methods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornyMan View Post
    Have any of

    you purchased these 2 books?

    It seems Mystery Method is about a stud's version of approaching chicks who

    frequents bars and nightclubs and how to lay them.

    It seems "The Game" by Strauss isabout how to be more subtle

    and coax a woman (different types) into bed or relationships.


    What are your thoughts of these? Do you think

    Mysteries Method is better suited for confident types of guy?

    Do you think The Game is better suited for

    nerds.

    Can you be a stud looking guy and still get away with approaches like "the game"? Or do you have to come

    across as more of a harmless weasel?

    Lastly do any of you guys have experiences to detail with these

    methods?
    I admit I've only scanned MM, and haven't read The Game, but from what I've heard they are

    both essentially the same. The Game was the author's experiences he had while following the principles of MM.

    Granted he may have modified the approaches and all to suit himself. What little I remember for MM is that it read

    like a scientific technical manual. Too many charts. Felt to "mechanical."

    One thing I suggest is to read over

    everything you can get, including MM, The Game, DeAngelo's DYD, and even the Mars and Venus book series. They all

    represent different approaches. Reading over a variety of opinions will give you a good overview of the whole

    subject. Just pick out of each what sounds good to you and give it a try and see how it works. You have to find your

    own niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HornyMan View Post
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    only concern here is if its very beautiful women one are after, they usually set the bait themselves and have men

    chase them so how would a mysterious man get beautiful women chasing him?

    It would be like two defensive boxers

    trying to play a game of boxing. In the end no one makes a move.
    Not really. Most of the time the really

    beautiful women set the trap and end up wondering why you walk past it. It drives them up the wall that there are

    men that do not fall for their wiles. They end up chasing you if there is any interest at all.

    That's where

    the mones and taking care of yourself come in. You have to be worth catching and you do that by exercising, wearing

    the right amount of mones to accentuate your nature and improving on knowledge.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    "They end up

    chasing you if there is any interest at all.

    That's where the mones and taking care of yourself come in.

    You have to be worth catching and you do that by exercising, wearing the right amount of mones to accentuate your

    nature and improving on knowledge." Belgareth



    Ok some insight. If I want a beautiful woman to "chase

    me", that seems to me that I should be baiting them. But if I just exercise, dress nice, act mysterious and wait,

    won't it only attract AGGRESSIVE beautiful women? A less aggressive women would not take part in the hunt would

    they?


    Also I like A7. If I wear A7 / SOE I come across as a dominant male. That puts women more in a

    reactive state as I am a leader. So why would they "chase" a leader? Someone who leads usually takes action.

    Won't that confuse them, a leader who is mysterious and timid? if I am not timid and act confident but do not

    chase I am assuming I still have to make the first move in some way and can't JUST rely on my looks to bait them

    and wait forever.


    So it comes down to how much intiation is required by a mysterious person (me) to get

    the ball rolling by a target. I am not just WAITING for any target to notice me. I may have someone I really like

    in mind. But I want to bait them in. So I figure I have to take the lead to be noticed in some way. But then back

    off.

    So how much do you initiate? When do you know you've initiated enough? I guess real life is trial and

    error but i'd rather learn from other people's experiences too.

    HM

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    You are baiting them by being

    mysterious and not responding to them like they are accoustomed to men responding. You wear mones and behave in a

    certain way to come across as an alpha male, that makes you a desirable bedmate. But you don't take the woman who

    is used to being chased seriously. That makes you all the more desirable. It doesn't matter if they are aggressive

    or passive except in how they'll approach you. They will still come after you.

    As a leader, you are the male t

    have sex with, The Alpha Male. You don't chase. If you chase you become lesser than the alpha because you are

    chasing. You can acknowledge interest but that's the most you want to do. The alpha is the one who is always in

    control, not the one asking for favors or attention.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Belgareth makes a very good

    point here. If you want to project a mystery/alpha vibe you must have control of yourself. Anything less will be

    seen as weakness. The self is the hardest thing to control. A man who is in command of his wants and desires, and

    is willing to pace himself to achieve them, will go much further than an actor playing a role.

    An element of this

    discussion that's not been mentioned is that your greatest success is probably going to be when you're not trying

    to make something happen. That's my experience to be sure, and supports the whole theory of making yourself

    desirable and letting things flow naturally.

    And for God's sake, don't chase the 10s, you'll be feeding not

    only your own misery, but also those behind you. Let them wonder why you left. It'll be a mystery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    You are

    baiting them by being mysterious and not responding to them like they are accoustomed to men responding. You wear

    mones and behave in a certain way to come across as an alpha male....

    Great stuff. If you look at at

    society(Im from Canada) you will noticed the roles have changed. I see it all the time, men chasing women down,

    woman getting to choose from a handful of men. Some of my own friends are like this. If a women like what she sees,

    she will come in your surroundings to give you "signs" that she wants YOU to make a move on her. This is not the

    same as in you approching her first. When you approach a women first, you automatically put yourself in a different

    category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven View Post
    When you

    approach a women first, you automatically put yourself in a different category.

    Eleven, could you

    elaborate a bit more on this statement.

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