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    Aye it is. This all started

    back when I was younger trying to become a hacker, I discovered the feild I am the best in is SocEng. I was promoted

    and asked to write an article about it, But the more I tried, the deeper I got. Eventually I branched out into

    studying body language, and now pheromones. Someday I hope to write that article in the form of a book.

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    Belgareth: social engineering is

    ?the art and science of getting people to comply to your

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    Belgareth: social engineering is “the art and science of getting people to comply to your

    wishes”.
    That's an over simplification. I've studied it to some degree and was asking for specifics.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    That's

    an over simplification. I've studied it to some degree and was asking for specifics.
    Bad as it sounds,

    he basicly hit it right on the head.

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    Belgareth denial is not a river

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgk4569 View Post
    Bad as it

    sounds, he basicly hit it right on the head.
    It's still a simplification. We could break it down into

    several modes, if you'd like. Legal methods, social pressure methods, peer pressure methods and so on. I was

    curious as to what you were trying to accomplish, despite the ignorant remarks made by Chicago.

    Management, if

    done well, is social engineering as is leadership. Even raising children could be called social engineering. The

    government uses taxation and propoganda, among other tools to attempt social engineering. It is a very wide field

    that I have studied to some degree. As a matter of curiosity I was asking for more details. If you mean to simply

    manipulate individuals, that's fairly small in scope but can be interesting.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgk4569 View Post
    Aye it

    is. This all started back when I was younger trying to become a hacker, I discovered the feild I am the best in is

    SocEng. I was promoted and asked to write an article about it, But the more I tried, the deeper I got. Eventually I

    branched out into studying body language, and now pheromones. Someday I hope to write that article in the form of a

    book.
    I'm two types of engineer, both technical fields, but social engineering is interesting, mainly

    because of how it affects us all. Over the years I've tinkered with it a few times, mostly back when I was a

    corporate manager. The principles work surprisingly well on small and medium sized groups. Never have had the chance

    to test it on larger groups though.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Basicly what I'm studying is

    the more broad social engineering in General. The ability to manipulate and influence people. I plan to hit on 3

    major subjects, Personality, Body language and smell. Primarily the first two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgk4569 View Post
    Basicly

    what I'm studying is the more broad social engineering in General. The ability to manipulate and influence people.

    I plan to hit on 3 major subjects, Personality, Body language and smell. Primarily the first two.
    So, then

    your focus is on the individual or on groups? Techniques vary depending on that. Smell would be far less a factor in

    groups since you necessarily have to have a greater distance. Physical contact is more limited too so you can't use

    that as a tool. On the other hand, poise, self confidance and delivery seem to make a far greater difference. The

    ability to read reactions and adjust your presentation to the group becomes a lage factor too. I've noticed, and a

    preacher once told me this as well, that with a group you can get them excited or angry and it transmits itself

    through the whole group. It's interesting to watch it happening.
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    I'm focusing on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgk4569 View Post
    I'm

    focusing on both.
    It sounds like it could be an interesting article. I'd like to read it when you get it

    ready.
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    it's going to be much more

    than just an article, But it will probably be a long time coming If I ever completely commit to it.

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