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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    ( Agreed,

    the GOP although head and shoulders above the Democrats, are clueless as to he direction the USA needs to go for it

    to continue to be a viable player on the world stage in the next quarter century.)
    Unfortunately, part of

    the "head and shoulders" party of the first part just quit the race. Fred Thompson was the only *true* conservative

    of the bunch.

    While any of the others are a better choice than either of the Dems, it now comes down to

    compromise.

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    Ok, Putin and the Kremlin understand the need for a two-party system, will they

    say 'nebos and 'avos?




    Well, Putin is not quite

    Russian. That is, he is an ethnic Russian, of course, but he has been a spy in Germany for 10 years and adopted a

    lot from German mentality, I think.

    There is our famous movie hero a

    shtandartenfurer SS Shtirliz (who was in reality our Russian agent, of course) and Putin is something like this




    One thing that concerns me is the way Putin handled

    himself during the Ukranian election a few years ago.





    Well, nobody’s perfect




    Also his most recent "sabre rattling" exercises. He's a strong-man in Ivan

    IV's clothing, but I think perhaps he knows he can't get away with it.
    I hope it is as you say, and there will be a true choice.

    The only remaining question is does Russia have a leader who will come from the people to lead a new party?


    No, it is out of consideration . It should be a guy

    from the Kremlin who would coordinate all his actions with it. If there is a second strong leader it will be a civil

    war.



    Say, a Peter in Gorbachov clothing? Maybe Peter is

    not the best choice for that example, but you understand.






    Yes, the Russian population had lessened by third under Peter No, I think that a

    plan is that it should be a second party controlled by the Kremlin and when people get used to a notion that after

    electing a new leader heavens won’t come down to Russia with angels who will work for us it will be possible

    to make the system more realistic.




    [quote] к вашему здоровью

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    I have heard that Russians in movies say ‘na zdorovie’? Is it true? We never say it in

    reality


    Поднимем

    наши стаканы за две

    великие нации –

    русских и

    американцев

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    Поднимем наши

    стаканы за две

    великие нации –

    русских и

    американцев

    "Let us raise our glasses to two

    great nations - Russia and America".

    очень

    хорошо, I owe you a bottle of Scotch Whiskey.

    Yes, I have heard "na zdorovie"

    in the movies (Local Hero), but in my post I simply translated "to your health" in a translator. My Russian is 25

    years old and has not aged as well as a good whiskey.

    I appreciate your insight Alexander. What is your

    patromymic?

    I will think about your reply and will certainly ask more questions.

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    î÷åÃü

    õîðîøî, I owe you a bottle of

    Scotch Whiskey.






    OK, and I owe you a bottle of vodka Do you remember as they changed

    their watches in ‘Red Hot’?





    Yes, I have heard "na zdorovie" in the movies (Local Hero),

    but in my post I simply translated "to your health" in a translator. My Russian is 25 years old and has not aged as

    well as a good whiskey.




    Well, a bit more accurate would be ‘za tvoje/vashe zdorovje’ but your

    Russian is still quite OK






    I appreciate your

    insight Alexander. What is your patromymic?


    No, I am

    Alexey - as it was a real name of Gorky, not as Pushkin’s




    I am Alexey Lvovich, how is your one?

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    Understood, but I never saw "Red

    Hot", is it good? Who are the primary actors?

    Ok good Alexey, Gorky and Pushkin are two very interesting and

    different men. I think you are more like Pushkin in ideals if not name.

    We do not use patromymics, so I could be

    either Yosef Grigorovich, or Odelovich using my father's name.

    To be honest, I prefer whiskey too, so we should

    have a wonderful time drinking.

    We in America look eagerly toward political and social change in Russia, and

    we also understand that it is Russia who will determine her future. I'm glad that we are now "friends", and of

    course we wish to remain friends. Sometimes it is difficult among friends to achieve a balance as we know.

    A

    question: what do you think is the most desired social change among most of the population? I assume it would be

    economic. If so, do you look mostly for economic freedom? Do you think Russia mostly desires for a Western ideal

    of economic success?

    More interestingly, do you care so much about the political system if the economic benefits

    are good on the street? Assuming that the successor to Putin will follow his policies, do you think those policies

    are oriented more to achieving a place in some new world order or a new Russian independence or dominance?

    A lot

    of questions, sorry, but I look forward to your answer.

    Greg

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    Understood, but I never saw "Red Hot", is it good? Who are the primary

    actors?




    Well, it was popular in Russia (as well as all movies

    with the governator, though). Another leading role was played by Belushi.


    There were some funny lines there. For example, the

    Soviet policeman suggested to his American colleague (played by Belushi) to shoot all drug dealers and the like. He

    said that it would be a good idea, but politicians won’t allow this. ‘Shoot them first’ was an answer.






    Ok good Alexey, Gorky and Pushkin are two very

    interesting and different men. I think you are more like Pushkin in ideals if not name.






    I heard that the main reason why Pushkin wrote verses was

    that he always had huge card debts and tried to get some money to pay









    We do not use

    patromymics







    It is not of any importance . As long as a person knows

    the name of his father he/she has patronymics . If not, the patronymics will be thought up





    so I could be either Yosef Grigorovich, or

    Odelovich using my father's name.




    Why Yosef? Greg is quite OK And it cannot be two ones

    . What is the name of your father?








    [quote] To be honest, I prefer whiskey too, so we

    should have a wonderful time drinking.

    [/

    quote]





    OK, I prefer Johnny Walker. I think that it a lady’s

    drink but I don’t like hard drinks.





    We in America look eagerly toward political and

    social change in Russia, and we also understand that it is Russia who will determine her future. I'm glad that we

    are now "friends", and of course we wish to remain friends. Sometimes it is difficult among friends to achieve a

    balance as we know.




    Yeah, it is the last thing I would want – to have the US

    as enemy again.





    A question: what do you think is the most

    desired social change among most of the population? I assume it would be economic. If so, do you look mostly for

    economic freedom?







    Actually, I am not sure. I think that economy is only a

    part of politics. Again, you never are able to create good economy without political stability.


    Why everybody is glad to keep money in Switzerland? It is

    a safe place, in the center of Europe and NATO defends my beloved money (no matter that Switzerland itself is not a

    member of it).

    The problem is that everybody knows that

    any second the government may rob people. Nobody will be surprised if tomorrow it will be announced that all rubles

    should be changed in proportion 1:10 after showing papers where they come from. In Moscow there are exchange booths

    at each corner and we keep our money in dollars and euros. Nobody trusts rubles, nobody trusts the government. So

    rich people just make money here and have some infrastructure for the recreation – brothels and small gyms. They try

    to send serious money abroad.

    It is very difficult to

    develop economy under such political and social circumstances.





    Do you think Russia mostly desires for a Western

    ideal of economic success?




    Politically we are total morons, so it doesn’t matter

    what we desire . I think that we desperately need for colleges of high economical and political education. When

    there are several thousands educated Russian guys – it will be possible to discuss what they want.


    However, I think yes, many prefer the Western way of

    economics now.





    More interestingly, do you care so much about

    the political system if the economic benefits are good on the street?







    Sure, sure. Without a firm political system everything

    may collapse in a second. It happened in 1998 already.










    Assuming that the successor to Putin will follow

    his policies, do you think those policies are oriented more to achieving a place in some new world order or a new

    Russian independence or dominance?

    I think

    that Medvedev is a quite pro-Western politician and he’s going to continue to try to find a place under the

    capitalists sun for Russia.





    Greg, who do you think is going to be the next president of the US?

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    I'm thinking there is a bit of a

    translation thing here... the movie I recall I think was called "Red Heat" not "Red Hot"...
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
    It's apathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Well, it was popular in Russia (as well as all movies

    with the governator, though). Another leading role was played by Belushi.


    There were some funny lines there. For example, the

    Soviet policeman suggested to his American colleague (played by Belushi) to shoot all drug dealers and the like. He

    said that it would be a good idea, but politicians won’t allow this. ‘Shoot them first’ was an

    answer.


    You might also add the

    lawyers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    I heard that the

    main reason why Pushkin wrote verses was that he always had huge card debts and tried to get some money to pay



    Ok Alex, we will not drink and play cards in

    the same evening, unless you are like Pushkin. But if I win, you could pay your debt with a poem that would win

    the heart of a lovely Russian woman.




    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Why Yosef? Greg is quite OK And it cannot be two

    ones . What is the name of your father?


    My

    name is Joseph Gregory. My father is Odell.



    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    OK, I prefer Johnny Walker. I think that it a

    lady’s drink but I don’t like hard drinks.



    Johnny Walker is a good drink, but I prefer

    single malt scotch, there are many. I will bring you a bottle of Glenmorangie. Scotch is definitely not a lady's

    drink, but some women will drink it. I will tell you a story when we are drinking Scotch

    together.
    [/quote]


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Yeah, it is

    the last thing I would want – to have the US as enemy again.



    Actually, I am not sure. I think that economy is only a

    part of politics. Again, you never are able to create good economy without political stability.


    Why everybody is glad to keep money in Switzerland? It is

    a safe place, in the center of Europe and NATO defends my beloved money (no matter that Switzerland itself is not a

    member of it).

    The problem is that everybody knows that

    any second the government may rob people. Nobody will be surprised if tomorrow it will be announced that all rubles

    should be changed in proportion 1:10 after showing papers where they come from. In Moscow there are exchange booths

    at each corner and we keep our money in dollars and euros. Nobody trusts rubles, nobody trusts the government.



    I understand, it is the same worry that the

    West has with Putin. He is seen as a figure who is not known, and not predictable. Also, the history of Russia

    will always be "an enigma wrapped in a mystery". As with all countries, history and culture are a weight which

    moves slowly and with much effort.



    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    So rich people just make money here

    and have some infrastructure for the recreation – brothels and small gyms.



    So, you are saying that the prostitutes are in

    good physical shape? Maybe I will visit you soon.



    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    They try to send serious money

    abroad.

    It is very difficult to develop economy under

    such political and social circumstances.


    Yes,

    capitalism suffers when capital leaves the country. Its too bad. Political stability is the first requirement, you

    know this. That is the main question with the Putin dynasty. They must create an environment of national stability

    and growth.

    You are right, politics will lead economics, and in Russia there has never been an environment

    conducive to capitalism.




    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Politically we are total

    morons, so it doesn’t matter what we desire .



    Again, spoken like nobody but a Russian can

    speak. You are a wonderful people waiting to be born into the world. What can you do? I suppose you can wait for

    time to deliver changes which may or may not happen. You've never had politics in your homes, and now you see the

    world but have no choices.

    [/quote]


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    I think that we

    desperately need for colleges of high economical and political education. When there are several thousands educated

    Russian guys – it will be possible to discuss what they want.


    However, I think yes, many prefer the Western way of

    economics now.


    Yes, an educated

    political/economic infrastructure is much needed. The USA is the "university of the world" in many ways, and I

    hope Russians will be able to take advantage.





    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    I think

    that Medvedev is a quite pro-Western politician and he’s going to continue to try to find a place under the

    capitalists sun for Russia.


    I hope he is not

    cut from the same cloth as Putin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Greg, who do you think is going to be the next president of the US?
    Good question

    Alexey. A super-model I think...

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