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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann View Post
    I've always said what I think and didn't let people do stuff I didn't want..
    A thing

    that have worked wonders for me are discipline and consequence for the girls I'm dating..
    Fx. If I try to kiss her

    and I know she won't kiss me just to tease it gets a consequence! Then I won't kiss her when she tries and lets

    her come chasing me.. Always turn this around so you're the one who's in control and in demand.. Then she always

    has to follow you and please you and she will never come to the point where she begins to say I want things this way

    and that way..
    workingman, for the first time ever im going to have to disagree with what you are

    saying. if you are doing that, are you no better then her, when they are doing that to you. two wrongs dont make a

    right man, if she is doing stuff like that mabey she is just teasing you in a fun way. if you look at that situation

    like its just teasing in a fun hard to get way ya, its ok. but if you look at it from a 'what an evil bitch' kind

    of way, then, your going to mess up your own head and make you do crazy stuff. "the game" will fuck your head up

    man. i got into the game around 17 and by the end of my 19 i realize how much of it was actually warping the reality

    that was around me, and how i was see the world.

    I have a friend who have been with a girl for two years

    and suddenly she wouldn't let him smoke so he did it secretly.. I thought he was a puss and she a stupid bitch.. I

    would NEVER let a girl control me in that way.. I would say I'm gonna do what I wanna and if you don't like it

    then find someone else to be around because this is the way I am.. And keep telling yourself "you're worth much

    much better" because then she will never decide over you because you can find someone else who cares more if she

    doesn't like something about you.. Because there will be someone out there who will love every detail about you and

    let you be you.. And it's the same with my work and my friends.. I always tell them straight what I think about

    them and what they say.. And if they cross the line I can find someone else to be around till they come and say

    they're wrong.. And if not - then they're not true friends and not worth it or you time..
    But you also have to be

    able to see when you're wrong yourself but still.. You have things you know.. This is what I WANT and will not

    compromise about it.. And these things (like I can't take people lie to me - then they're like thin air to me) you

    have to know what you want and always stick to them.. And then there's other things you would like but you can bend

    if they don't always go that way (fx. I appreciate when people show up to the scheduled time when we have an

    appointment but I can live with it if they come a little to late)..
    But alway remember just to be yourself and be

    true to yourself.. Then you will always have people around you that will treat you with respect and care because you

    have chosen these people to be in your life..
    i can see my past saying those exact same words. a

    girl friend of 2 years will make you quit smoking because she loves him. she's not going to wake up one day and

    decite you know what i hate smoke im going to make you quit. no she cares enough about him that the though of her

    loosing him is probelly hurting her alot more then he realize. hell, i'll be woried about the relationship if she

    didn't care. i still beleive some of the things you are saying such as. "you have to know what you want and always

    stick to them.. And then there's other things you would like but you can bend if they don't always go that way "

    with that in mind tho, "Because there will be someone out there who will love every detail about you and let you be

    you.. " is not true at all. if you do find someone like that, wow, thats amazing and you are probelly the luckiest

    person in the world. but i dont think thats true, all you can do is, focus on what you like about them and only

    bring up the things you dont like if you know that its dangerious to his/her or other's life, will damage the

    relationship, or .... (had a though but lost it, so i'll jsut say) strigh up fucked up on thier part. but make sure

    its not your insacurities that are causeing you to be affected by her actions, because if it is then no matter what

    she do, your insacurities (sp?) are just going to keep causing you to fell those feelings. you just got to let

    others be who they are, but make sure they let you be who you are unless like i said " it is dangerious to his/her

    or other's life, will damage the relationship or just stright up fucked up on your part.

    ...........but then

    again, who knows i could be wrong. i just know that once i realize that i have no control of universe and the only

    thing i can control is how im going to co-exist in it is when my life got really easy, and not as stress ful as it

    used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickracer View Post
    workingman, for the first time ever im going to have to disagree with what you are saying.

    if you are doing that, are you no better then her, when they are doing that to you. two wrongs dont make a right

    man, if she is doing stuff like that mabey she is just teasing you in a fun way. if you look at that situation like

    its just teasing in a fun hard to get way ya, its ok. but if you look at it from a 'what an evil bitch' kind of

    way, then, your going to mess up your own head and make you do crazy stuff. "the game" will fuck your head up man. i

    got into the game around 17 and by the end of my 19 i realize how much of it was actually warping the reality that

    was around me, and how i was see the world.
    Well to me it works great! Women always test you how much of

    a mann you really are.. Are you just gonna agree with her and say yes because you wan't some pussy or are you gonna

    say your opnion. To me when I turn it around so I'm in control and she chases me it works wonders. At least for my

    experience this is what women wants (or most of them - some are extreme queens and standalone girls that doesn't

    need a mann and thats fine) because you're the mann who's in control. You say your opnion, doing what you want and

    she will follow. This doesn't mean I woun't treat her good and love her AT ALL!!
    To me its so easy because I say

    what i want and do what i want and she can say what she want and you know what you can rely on instead of saying one

    thing and secretly thinking the oposite.

    about my "discipline and consequence" it depends on how she plays it..

    because some women are bitchy players.
    To me I've always played so people can see a little bit of my interest so

    they know I'm not just teasing her and letting her think she has a chance when she really doesn't.
    Girls who

    teasy you with a blink in her eyes and you can feel it's just teasing it's oka because then i play it to her also.

    But if I feel she plays me without having a chance I get annoyed because then she only does it to her amusement so

    she can laugh after I've gone all the way and she can say Noo and smile and walk away. i can't take that! Girls

    who are funny and teasing and letting you work a little but still having the interest is good anough even though she

    has you follow her home and not letting you kiss and and closing her door and smiling behind it while closing it.

    That's tease because you know she wan't it, and you too, and she just lets time go so it will be better when you

    get there. That's foreplay like in bed so that's fine. But when she does that and just laughs behind the door and

    she thinks what a fool - that's the bitch.

    And when I'm in control I'm doing the consequence thing because

    then she woun't start to chainging me because she doesn't like it. If she likes me and I smoke and she after 2

    years with me suddently says out of nowhere "you gotta stop smoking!" I would get really angry! If she was

    interested in it because of my health she would talk to me about it slowly and say it gently, but this girl just

    said it hard suddently. I doesn't smoke but if my gf would want me quit she would know she had to talk to me and

    doesn't start out shouting and being commanding. If she did that I would just smoke even harder. I know it would

    hurt her but thats the consequence for being hard and shouting. Then she would learn that the next time she would

    want to change something for me she she start talking to me and perhaps we could find something out together with an

    mild mood.
    If you doesn't give the consequence and says you doesn't agree and like that behavior she will keep

    acting that way and keep commanding you.
    My friend was on vaccasion with her and she jsut said angryly in the

    morning "well what shall we do huh?" and he said "I don't know.. I don't know this place better than you" and she

    said "then find out because i don't just wanna be here all day". And he did.
    I gotta say there were patying last

    night and he drank a lot and she didn't so actually she shouldn't have woken him in that manner so early because

    he had more need for sleep than her. so she could have found out the same stuff and when he would wake up she would

    be ready.
    Instead she wakes him early with an attitude, makes him go out to find something to do with hangovers and

    not even going with him.
    She should instead think my poor mann drank good last night so i will let him sleep long

    so he will get better and I will found out what we can do. And when he wakes up they could go do something. That's

    care and I wan't that kinda woman! If she would treat me the other way I would go crazy! Why shall I when you want

    something to do?! She could go or at least we could go find out, but nooo she only wants me to go. And not

    caring and thinking of me, but only thinking about herself.

    And the funny thing is he never gives her consequence

    or talks hard to her saying he doesn't want it that way. And she just keep doing things that are more and more bad

    and commanding more and more around with him.
    If you do the consequece and disipline women doesn't try to make you

    do all sorts of things to make themselves happy and only think about yourself. If you do disipline and consequence

    you will make you woman caring and thinking about you. And her whole thinking wil change to caring more and thinking

    about you. And if you then cares about her and thinks about her everybody's happy.
    Gotta remember - when I think

    about me and she thinks about me it gives problems. When I think about her, she gets cared for and i will do things

    to make her happy. and she cares about me and she will make me happy.
    This gives everybody gets happy, and gets the

    things they want instead of thinking about themselves and only causing problems.

    I've seen couples only thinking

    about themselves and on vaccasions:
    girls wants to lie on the beach and he wants to go to waterland. She shouts and

    says lets go to the beach and says the last time we did what you wanted etc. et.c and he faught back and said no we

    did what you wanted and fighting to do what he wanted.
    I caused them to fight, get angry and going seperately to

    what they wanted.
    If it was my girl and me I would say i know you wanna go to the beach so lets go there and she

    would say nooo you wanna go to waterland so lets go there.
    This causes a frinly fight instead which is much much

    better.
    We would eventually saying lets go to the beach first and then go to waterland or waterland tomorrow. Or if

    we wouldn't go to waterland - so what?! I would be with my girl and I wouldn't care that much. When you have

    someone care more about you the things you would want, doesn't seem that important because you doesn't always

    think about yourself.
    If it's more me me me, and your girl doesn't care about you it will make you fight more to

    get your will.
    The only difference is you will have a problem where one will do one thing for thenselves or one

    would do what you want - bad way or good way.

    Quote Originally Posted by slickracer View Post
    And then there's other things you would

    like but you can bend if they don't always go that way " with that in mind tho, "Because there will be someone out

    there who will love every detail about you and let you be you.. " is not true at all. if you do find someone like

    that, wow, thats amazing and you are probelly the luckiest person in the world. but i dont think thats true, all you

    can do is, focus on what you like about them and only bring up the things you dont like if you know that its

    dangerious to his/her or other's life, will damage the relationship, or .... (had a though but lost it, so i'll

    jsut say) strigh up fucked up on thier part. but make sure its not your insacurities that are causeing you to be

    affected by her actions, because if it is then no matter what she do, your insacurities (sp?) are just going to keep

    causing you to fell those feelings. you just got to let others be who they are, but make sure they let you be who

    you are unless like i said " it is dangerious to his/her or other's life, will damage the relationship or just

    stright up fucked up on your part.

    ...........but then again, who knows i could be wrong. i just know that once

    i realize that i have no control of universe and the only thing i can control is how im going to co-exist in it is

    when my life got really easy, and not as stress ful as it used to be.
    You gotta remember I only do

    consequence and disipline for things I need. I don't expect her to love every detail about me and i love every

    detail with her.
    But I wan't a woman who's funny and has something between the ears and know what she want's to

    do.
    If she doesn't look like a model I can live with it because I go much more for the way she acts and treats me.

    Is she funny, not a bimbo, has respect for me and herself, sweet and caring then she's something for me and then it

    doesn't matter that much if she doesn't look that good or have a little overweight.
    Fx. I would like she doesn't

    smoke (because she doesn't taste all that great) but if she smokes i don't care. She can still have all the other

    qualityes I want and then I doesn't bother if she smokes, BUT if she isn't funny, or caring, or has respect for me

    or herself I'm walking at the first second I find out.
    I'm not gonna use time on a girl who aren't what i want.

    it's because I've been with a girl where I said well i can live with that thing even if I would like it to be

    different. And after 6 months togerther I realized i just couldn't continue with that because I was just making me

    more and more sad and depressed. And then I realized i have to know what I want as a minimum because else you arenøt

    gonna find a girl you will have babys with and be with for the rest of your life.
    You gotta be real to yourself and

    what you want.
    When I say "I'm gonna use time on a girl who aren't what i want" this doesn't mean we can't be

    friends but it means I'm not gonna make a move on her or trying on something. She's just disqulified once I find

    out she doesn't have what it takes.
    To me it's just I have things I gotta have to make me happy. if she doesn't

    have it why should i compromise? It's what makes ME happy and if i doesn't get that it makes me misreable,

    depressed and it affects how sweet i would be to her. if i'm happy I would be much sweeter. And why should i go

    with a girl where I know i wouldn't be happy? I'm not a charity that are with a girl to make her happy no matter

    what i feel myself. No!
    I'm true to myself, my goal, my fellings!
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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