also anybody part of these
seduction groups.
for good
looking guys. http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com 1/4 of the
page down.
b/c when being cocky and funny they are essentially rubbing it in that they are cocky and funny. can
this being applied to mones where good looking guys should use less or little none and more of the social mones?
also anybody part of these
seduction groups.
Thanks for the link but,
sheesh, BadBoy writes like a 10 year old. I could feel my fingers twitching for a red pen!
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
I hate to break it to you in the sense that these seduction lessons aren't going to take you
far. If you're serious you must study with serious teachers. That means you have to take acting class with peers
who intend on moving up to professional acting.
More news U can use. There isn't one acting teacher out
there who has it all. Each coach has his or her strengths. You generally have to study with three or four GOOD
teachers to be well rounded.
If these self described behavior teachers are half, shoot, one quarter as good
as they dream of being, they'd be working and making a rewarding living in the industry, and they'd have women
slipping them their phone numbers 'cause nothing turns women (or men, depending on your game) on like real success,
and real success derives from one thing, and one thing only, that is real, demonstable competence.
Are we on
the same page yet ? Assuming we are, you desire to master these abilities ?
Start researching GOOD acting
schools, coaches, intensive seminars, voice production, body language. First point... real teachers are looking for
real students. They don't have time for phonies, assholes, or corner cutting losers. They won't lift a finger
unless you are willing to COMMIT to their study.
Alright, there's another side to this story. Many teachers
are good, even excellent in one side of the work but may be weak or limited in another. It is normal to be
incredibly frustrated and/or pissed off with a teacher who can't or won't break down a skill into learnable steps
or hides behind a mass of overblown acting spiel.
You have to get off your can and find the teacher(s) who
know what you need to know and work hard to learn it. Forget all the labels, stanislavski, meisner, adler, bla bla
bla... those are just designer tags.
I heard teacher after teacher slinging poo about "listening" and how
important it was to know how to "listen" but nobody could explain what they were talking about, although everybody
agreed that "listening" was the core skill that divided good, great, mediocre, and terrible actors (you might be
mentally extending this to success with women, and you'd be right to think that). Eventually I found myself
sufficiently disgusted with the Nth acting teacher using hollow language about "THE WORK" and "being present in the
moment" and observing them throw their acting coach tantarums when the student didn't get it, so I called and
called and asked and poked around until I found a teacher who, VOILA!, listened (for real, not faking it to enroll
yet another sucker in their glorious academy) and could CONSISTENTLY demonstrate high level listening skills, and
was interested enough to work with the student to teach listening skills....
Not as easy as it looks, as this
is demanding of the teacher, takes genuine interest and feeling (most high volume schools have teachers phoning it
in, but they're good enough actors that they make it appear that they're involved... and you wonder why you have a
hard time "getting it".... surprise, it's because they're not feeling it... now you know, OK?) and YOU have to be
willing to listen and learn...
have u tried those sites? because
all i think they all go back to some guy name mystery who's rated the #1 pickup artist in the world or something.
my thinking is, if you're only getting sex from your girlfriend, then maybe you should change something up unless
you only want to have sex with your girlfriend. what's worst trying something and having it fail or sitting on your
ass and thinking why can i fuck tons of girls. i rather try something new, atleast i can say i attempted to break
wilt chamberlain's record.
what is his record?
Somehow, I think this thread
has something to do with David DeAngelo.
A couple of
thoughts.
Wilt Chamberlain has reportedly bedded a truckload of women, but I personally think there's
nothing wrong with loving your girlfriend.
Cocky and funny doesn't work but gentle and funny does, take my
word.
I am kind of mistrustful of the seduction sites, because you'd think these guys would be too busy
doing, uh, you know, instead of peddling their wares online.
Cockiness seems to have a counterproductive
effect on the performance of mones.
OK, that's my 2 cents, adjusted to .95 after inflation![]()
Well cuddlebear, cocky, not to be
confused with jerk (besides, this is a noun, but you get the point), does in fact work, and I dare say even on a
girlfriend...teasing really spices things up. You just have to work on the Funny part to make it a winner, and
whoever said that loving is forbidden? All I say is give love a chance.
And that's my two grands.
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I agree with Yoel. Girls like
to be teased, even though they may protest a bit. You don't want to overdo it. You don't want to be mean or
petty. You want to exaggerate something so that it becomes a funny, harmless subject. But you have to be aware of
how she is reacting. Her feelings may be hurt.
Yes. Good advice.Originally Posted by Friendly1
* Cocky DOES
work....as long as you are not arrogant with it. It has to be fun. Kinda toungue and cheek. Nobody likes a person
who is over-the-top with cockyness. You DO NOT want to come off as if you think you are better than anyone. It has
to be confidence, a little cocky yet in a non-arrogant, fun type way. That is tough and really cannot be achieved
unless you put yourself in a mode and that is how you feel.
Happy
Cuddles didn't say anything
about not being funny. He said Funny and Gentle and he has a good point. It does work well and never comes across as
arrogant, which cocky can. You can tease and be fun to be around without being cocky.
Surfs Up made a very
important point in his post also. He said:
"'cause nothing turns women (or men, depending on your game) on
like real success, and real success derives from one thing, and one thing only, that is real, demonstable
competence."
The confident, self assured, competent person is always going to have women (or men) flocking
around them. It also holds up longer because it isn't an act, it's really you. People eventually, some much
quicker than others, see through any act.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
According to the Random House
Unabridged Dictionary:
cocky (kok'e) arrogant; pertly self assertive; conceited: He walked in with
a cocky air.
Sounds like the wrong approach for most women and a surefire method to attract unwanted
attention from other cocky males. Methinks humble strength beats arrogance; consideration for others whips pertly
self assertive; and witty discourse and sensitivity kicks ass on being conceited. Cockiness by definition embodies
traits and attitudes you should avoid if you desire success with friends and lovers. Being cocky isn't about being
self assured or confident. Being cocky isn't about teasing or humor. Being cocky is about being an arrogant, pertly
self assertive, and conceited arse.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Well said!Originally Posted by Gegogi
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
It really all depends on the girl,
and generally, younger women are more likely to go for a cocky and funny approach.
A lot of them grow out of
it.
But anyway, we're talking about two different groups of women here, thus the differing opinions.
I'm with BJF. It depends a lot on
the woman. My advice is just relax have fun and be yourself. That will eliminate women who don't like who you
really are, which should be good news. If you put on a big front in an effort to attract a woman, then what happens
if she falls in love with "you"? Sooner or later she will be disappointed. (starting to sound familiar?)
If
you don't like who you really are, there are things you can do to "work on yourself". I guess you can be whoever
you want to, but the key in my mind is to be genuine rather than swing a quick mold job based on what you think
women are looking for.
Bruce
DeAngelo didn't read Random
House Dictionary. Here is his explanation of cocky:
Hope I didn't violateWomen are magnetically attracted to men who are just
a little bit too cocky. Just a little bit. This is a tough one to explain. Many men take this to mean 'overly
arrogant' which is not what I mean. If you watch Pierce Brosnan in 'The Thomas Crown Affair' or Clarke Gable in
'Gone With The Wind' or Tom Cruise in 'Top Gun' you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about. The
confident/cocky trait is mild overconfidence combined with humor. Drives women wild.
copyright laws too badly....
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you gave credit to the
author by quoting him - so, there's no copyright problem.
Maybe a better choice 'o words isThe confident/cocky trait
is mild overconfidence combined with humor. Drives women wild.
confident and humorous or self assured and witty. Those are really good things! Cocky is nearly synonymous with
jerk. The New Oxford and Webester's dictionaries also define cocky with very negative connotations and I've only
heard it used in that light--until now. I'd rather be witty and confident than conceited with an inordinately high
opinion of myself. Perhaps these writers are attempting to redefine "cocky" by thumbing it down and putting a
positive spin on it.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
By the way, I was speaking in light
of DeAngelo's stuff. I thought that was obvious, my bad.
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It is okay to give words new
meanings, as long as those new meanings are clearly conveyed. DeAngelo seems to have done that. People shouldn't
have a cow over the reversal in usage. If you ever look up the history of the word "dizzy", you will see that it
has come a long way. So has the word "gay".
Not too many folks down in Pleasantville have heard ofIt is okay to give words
new meanings, as long as those new meanings are clearly conveyed. DeAngelo seems to have done that. People
shouldn't have a cow over the reversal in usage.
DeAngelo and his New World Dictionary of Male Assertiveness. I think DeAngelo and his disciples need to do a lot
more if they desire to change the mainstream meaning of a word. Nevertheless, it may appear in DeAngelo-speak I was
being cocky! However, I didn't birth a cow. I was merely enjoying the conversation and debate! Mahalo!
Incidentally, for many years "gay" in reference to homosexuals was a kind of secret code, later a slang and now is
defined thus in the Random House Dictionary:
I'm afraid this brings new meaning to the old Christmas carol, "Hark the Gaygay (g")
adj. gay·er, gay·est
1. Of,
relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
2. Showing or characterized by
cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
3. Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny
room.
4. Given to social pleasures.
5. Dissolute; licentious.
n.
1. A person
whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex.
2. A man whose sexual orientation is to men: an
alliance of gays and lesbians.
Usage Note: The word gay is now standard in its use to refer to homosexuals, in
large part because it is the term that most gay people prefer in referring to themselves. Gay is distinguished from
homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to
sexual practice. Many writers reserve gay for males, but the word is also used to refer to both sexes; when the
intended meaning is not clear in the context, the phrase gay and lesbian may be used. Like the other names of social
groups derived from adjectives (for example, Black), gay may be regarded as offensive when used as a noun to refer
to particular individuals, as in There were two gays on the panel; here phrasing such as gay members should be used
instead. But there is no objection to the use of the noun in the plural to refer collectively either to gay men or
to gay men and lesbians, so long as it is clear whether men alone or both men and women are being discussed. See
Usage Note at homosexual.
Sound."
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
what the hell is "Hark the Gay
Sound" ????
Originally Posted by Gegogi
English is "BadBoy's" 2nd language.
I believe he resides in
Croatia.
"Confident" and funny is a better way to go, as "Cocky" can come off as being arrogant.
BTW,
I had the chance to hear "Mystery" speak for 2 hours in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, and he really knows his
stuff and has developed a step by step seduction formula or model.
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