Nice post and a great effort. I
think the way you are handling things will eventually bear fruit for you.
So, I again went to the mall. Just came back in fact. I used the same opener. For those
interested, it's Mystery's Cologne Opener. (Mystery is a well known pick up artist. Go to <deleted>, if you want
to know more about him).
The opener is an opinion opener. Walk by, and say, "Hey, I need a female opinion on
something..I'm trying to figure out which of these 2 colognes I should get, I have different ones on each hand."
Then, just give her your hand..don't hesitate..any sign of hesitation, and she'll know it's a line.
I
approached 15 girls with Scent of Eros on my left hand, and The Edge Scented on my right hand. Scent of Eros won 11
to 4!!?
I'll go in detail with the report.
1st girl-white girl, late 20s, voted for SOE because it smells
better..no significant positive BL (body language).
2nd girl-black, early 20s, cashier..she said she liked both,
but after resmelling my hands, voted for SOE
3rd girl-black, 18, said "SOE is more manly"..she smiled after
smelling SOE
4th girl-Voted for The Edge, I just reapplied some more SOE so this could've effected it. She said
that the SOE was "too strong"
5th girl-Asian girl, voted for SOE, she said, "If you're going for the, 'Wow, he
smells GOOD' Kind of effect, I'd go with that one."
6th girl-Asian woman who worked at a perfume stand, in her
30s..she voted for The Edge
7th girl-White, fat woman in her 30s, voted for SOE..she also laughed, probably because
she knew it was an opener
8th and 9th girl-2 friends who voted for The Edge because it wasn't as strong as the
SOE. Around 16 years old.
10th girl-White girl, 16s, voted for SOE because it "smells better"
11th and 12th
girl-probably 16 and 17. Both voted for SOE. The white one said, "It reminds me of my boyfriend". Notable BL, she
looked like she tranced out from smelling it. Also said, it smelled, "more romantic". The black girl said it "smells
better".
13th and 14th-Both worked at a perfume store in a department store. Both voted for SOE. One said, "it
stands out". She also smiled after smelling it.
15th girl-I modified it for the last approach of the day, I decided
to add in Direct Game in the beginning of the opener. I just went up to her and said, "I think you look nice and
I'd like to get to know you better.." And told her my name. She stood there for a while with the DIHL (deer in
headlight look). Then, snapped back into reality and told me she had a bf (boyfriend). I said, "That's okay..but,
let me get your opinion.." and proceeded with the cologne opener. She voted for SOE. Well, that's the end of this
fragrance combat session. I think I'm going to start wearing Scent of Eros more often. Please, others, do the same,
as I cannot afford to buy all the pheromones. I'm curious how Alter Ego would do against SOE.
Last edited by belgareth; 02-07-2006 at 08:26 PM.
Nice post and a great effort. I
think the way you are handling things will eventually bear fruit for you.
Thanks. I see my link got
deleted. My bad, didn't know we couldn't post links to other sites.
I'm too impatient to wait for "hits" to
occur, so why not hijack the system, and try to FORCE them?! You cannot rely on simply pheromones to do all the work
for you. In my opinion, the most it will do for you is put you and her in a better mood. The rest of it depends on
your game. You might get more smiles and more eye contact while you talk to her, so it is helpful. But, don't rely
on it solely. Maximize the potential of your pheromones, instead of waiting around for hits to occur.
We should
call these type of of hits, direct hits. And, others indirect hits. I also had an indirect hit yesterday, I failed
to mention, how this young girl was w/ her mom yesterday, and she kept looking at me. Is that a hit? Also, when you
do get an indirect hit from a woman, approach her immediately! I mean, why not!? You've got nothing to
lose.
If you're talking about your game
being more important than the mones, then thats pretty much a given and a common theme around the forums. However
acting out of the ordinary to force hits to happen can actually inhibit their effects. I find that its best to let
things happen in a more natural fashion.
I know what you're getting at though.
Damn Sigma - Props bro!
.
"Hijacking the system" was a
realy good idea! Under slightly more controlled conditions it could even be considered scientific.Although Im not
realy supprised that SoE won out.SoE is a realy solid and predictable product,and with the right approach and some
game it seems to me like an unstoppable product.Im fixing to buy a bottle of SoE/M sometime in the next few days as
I have recently become a tax paying citizen again The job I have taken might prove to be a good testing ground
for it as a result of constant close quarters contact with a variety of people over periods of time that are long
enough to actualy produce hits I will try to post results as soon as they come in. I have had realy
good results from the gel packs so I am hopping that the bottled product will produce the same.
"The wages of sin is death.But after taxes it's just sort of a tired feeling realy." -Ellen DeGeneres
Originally Posted by Sigma
You're only "acting out of the ordinary" if you, yourself, think you are acting unordinarily. Girls can sense if
you're trying to be sneaky. If you are genuinely interested in the woman, or genuinely interested in just knowing
which pheromone they prefer, then it's okay. It's okay to interrupt people you do not know.
Again I see whatOriginally Posted by stridoom
you're getting at, however after messing with mones for a while, I started to realize that the best hits come when
you pay little or no attention to the mones themselves, and go about acting in a natural manner.
When I'm out
wearing mones I'm usually more concerned about the women and people around me, and am not entirely focused on the
pheromones. In fact I've grown so accustomed to wearing them now that I usually don't pay them much mind at all.
Anyway, I think some guys are so focused on the actual mones and how well they're working that they lose sight
of the fact that attraction is about so much more than the mones themselves. how you carry yourself, what you do and
say, is a big part. I'm not saying that you're necessarily guilty of this yourself, but you do hear a lot of
overly methodical approaches around here.
Therefore, when we wear pheromones, the focus of our testing should be
on the women and how we, in our most natural mannerisms, affect them while wearing mones, not on the actual
pheromones.... I don't know if that makes sense or not, its kinda hard to put into words, but you get the idea.
Last edited by Sigma; 02-08-2006 at 11:07 PM.
I wear 'em and forget them, and
focus entirely at doing my best on the task at hand. Focusing on pheromones is a distraction, kinda like wearing a
new shirt that's too tight, or maybe having your briefs up your ass.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
lol. Thats a betterOriginally Posted by Gegogi
way of explaining it than I could have
I agree, I
have been wearing them starting with APC for 30 days now and I just wear them and enjoy myself as much as I can. I
have gotten some hits, for sure. I don't know about any DIHL but maybe I did not notice. Just tons of girls all
throught the day that I am socializing with and having a real blast, plus I have gotten some increadible hook ups
out of the blue on some pretty tivial things.
I truly have classifications to the levels of liking I am feeling
for all the girls. The one I just adore (looks wise but I can feel people and their essence from short interactions)
I am deeply attracted to her; when I make her laugh it's the best, I want her for the real thing and want to be her
friend for a year if that is what it takes for her to be my girl. This girl is precious a true pure as the snow
driven forrest princess. She does not even have pores, like she is made out of porcelain.
Also I had a
sexual encounter within the last 24 hours with a girl I have been seeing for the exact month I have been wearing
mones. First night we went out it was APC, couple more times we chillled still APC. Then I got the newbi kit and I
started wearing the packs and TE with musk. Then I got the SOE, NPA and kept seeing her every couple days always
with something on. Making it short, to go around the bases and in to home took 3 times in regresion from the last
encounter before that we were just chilling not even a kiss. Now the somewhat good but I am thinking mostly bad part
is that she lives in my building a few stories down. She is latin (Venezuelan) and latin girls can be tricky most
the time. I am latin so I know. She is also 18 and 1 month.
I don't know if everyone read the post of
the 40 mistakes guys make when having sex. I thought it was so funny. I am going to read it again but one of them is
tell a girl you love them to have sex. I got to say that it kind of applies here because the second time we messed
around she started asking me if I did like many times. It was btw 3 and 5 AM I avoided it. But the next day I told
her how that had left me thinking and I just wanted to be upfront and tell her that I did not feel that way. Plus I
was not looking for any attachments and I was just out dating and having a good time. So I left it really clear. But
somehow I don't think that matters in her mind anymore. Just to make it clear I would never cheat on someone. I
would break it off. Not necessarily telling them why but I would just not feel good about it.
Now the
question to everyone who wants to help is. So she lives below me, it's good, I am enjoying myself but at the same
time I am also loving the company of other girls at my school that in the near future will be around me in a more
personal level. I have five assignments that I will be doing in groups of two and we'll be reviewing and stuff like
that. So I know I am a free man, and I fully expect some of these girls to be like are you seeing someone
eventually. I am not, but what they are asking is deeper, I think. Clearly I won't be like I'm having sex with
someone because I like them more. *So I guess what I am asking is what are the rules of upgrading per say? How do
you treat the evolution of something you are more interested in an inversely related manner with the girls? When do
you make the breaks? Do I just wait until it's so clear? I hope I explained myself well. I 'm sure I'll figure it
out but I defenitively am feeling the input if shared.
Anyways, that's essentially my run down on my first month
of madness. Peace.
Just be honest and streight forward about the situation. No sneakingOriginally Posted by Lorenzo_91
around. Most girls would have no problem with you seeing other girls as long as you haven't said or infered that
you are exclusive.
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
Your test tells you
nothing.
You asked for verbal reports when you want behavioral responses.
SOE is the safe pick for a
woman smelling a strange man.
It's like opinion polls that ask you how you "feel" about a candidate. The
real action is when they cast their vote.
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