First Day with Pheromones

[OrangePanda]

Ok, second day with

pheromones. I started off in the morning by mixing up a batch of TE,
MUSK OIL with NOL (does this negate the

effects of TE/-none?) and AE. I filled the atomizer about 1/5th
of the way with equal TE and MUSK. Then put in at

least 6 drops of AE (1.5 dropper fulls).
Sprayed myself 3-4 times with it. NOTHING. Male ... Female ... Zilch.

So, I thought nothing of it ... since I
normally am not much of a socializer. I get my work done and 'vamos'

out of places.

So, later in the night ... I'm supposed to go to a bar where it's supposed to be a single's

gathering.
I drop on 6+ drops of AE. And, spread about 1/3rd a packet of the SOE onto my various zones (ears,

wrists, etc).
At the bar, I try and converse with this lady who's 30+ ... she's about within 12 inches of me ...

as, I'm trying to get
close to her possible. So, I'm talking to her for about 10+ minutes ... nothing great ..

but, she's still talking to me ... then when
one of her friend's comes (guy) -- she immediately excuses herself.

Because, she has a birthday party planned for her when guests
start arriving. So, her talking to me to begin with

was definitely nothing to do with the mones.

Being that was the case ... I go into the bathroom and apply the

rest of the packet of SOE to my body and hair again. The rest of the night (about an hour) -- nothing goes on.



So, at this point ... being that I have a skeptical nature to begin with ... I'm really skeptical on this. I

will probably OD on Monday (it being valentine's) with AE and SOE. Or rather, I will apply enough onto my body

that people will call it a OD effect ... although, I've noticed no one shying away from me so far ...

1) Should

I try applying the TE alone?
2) Or, should I try applying the SOE alone (without any AE or TE)?

[Jonathan]

Panda: I'm counting one

dropperful of AE as being about 13 drops, which would make 1.5 droppers 19.5 drops. I'm not sure what gave you the

6 figure, so I'm going to use the mean of the two figures--12 drops--for my calculations.

The atomizer has a

10ml storage chamber, so 1/5 of that is 2ml. Add 12 drops of AE at 0.05ml/drop, and you have a total volume of

2.6ml. 1ml of TE has 0.05mg of -none and 0.05mg of LC secrets. 1ml of SPMO has an unknown amount of -nol--according

to some, maybe as much as 0.5mg (though I REALLY doubt that), and maybe (and probably, if you ask me) as little as

0.01mg. 12 drops of AE has 0.12mg -none, 0.09mg -nol, and 0.06mg -rone. In total, that's 0.17mg -none, between

0.1mg and 0.6mg -nol, 0.06mg -rone and 0.05mg LC secrets in 2.6ml, or 0.065mg/ml -none, 0.03 to 0.23mg/ml -nol, and

some change. 3-4 sprays is about 0.4ml, so you should have gotten 0.026mg -none and (I'm guessing) about 0.012mg

-nol. That's a fairly good dose of -none and a somewhat light dose of -nol.

Then, when you added 6 drops of

AE, you added 0.06mg -none (!) for a total of 0.086mg -none, plus an additional 0.045mg -nol and 0.03mg -rone. The

1/3 packet of SOE would have added about 0.035mg -nol and 0.075mg -rone. That should have been a moderately strong

overdose. You had a lot of -nol in there, though, so I wouldn't have expected people to see you as aggressive and

dangerous per se, but your presence still would probably have made them uncomfortable. I might guess that that was

what happened to the 30+ woman: she probably felt uncomfortable with you, a bit intimidated, and while not quite

threatened, and probably a little bit attracted, certainly not at home. The fact that you were trying to get close

to her might have enhanced the sensation of having her comfort zone, her personal space, invaded. If you were in

that kind of situation, what would you do? Maybe run towards some token of security, such as (for example), a

non-threatening, brother-like male friend of yours?

See, there is more than one way that people can shy away

from you. The most obvious way is when people think you stink. That usually involves people clamping or wrinkling

their noses and saying something to that effect. A second, but still pretty obvious way is when people are simply

intimidated and frightened by you. That's a simple -none overdose, but with sufficient cover scent to avoid the

stinkyness. The problem with a dose like the one you had--where you practically OD on practically everything--is

that it tends to cause really strange, confused, indirect, and unpredictable feelings in people. Often, when you

have too much of everything, it can appear almost exactly like you don't have enough of anything because most of

the positive and negative affects associated with each of the component pheromones stand in opposition and leave

those you interact with with little to show except a sort of general unease. At one moment, they may feel (because

of the -nol) a desire to expose their heart to you unembellished, and the next moment (because of the -none) a

desire to present only their strengths and no weaknesses, and end up doing neither. Of course, unless you've

studied NLP or body language and are really good at reading people's faces and such, you'll have no idea that

these things are going through these people's minds. It'll seem to you like they just aren't interested in

interacting with you.

Don't get me wrong, powerful mixes/doses like the one you had that night can be very

effective, but only if you really know what's going on. In a situation like that, you would have to anticipate and

answer any and all qualms your audience might have about you because of the -mones. If you do that properly, you can

make a girl fall in love with you very quickly. Of course, you probably would feel next to nothing for her (which

would make your manipulative masquerade just that much more difficult), and believe me, it's not much better to be

the object of unrequited love than the subject.

I seem to see a lot of people expecting pheromones to somehow

magically fix their social lives. They won't. What they will do, however, is change the way people feel about you.

It's still your job to take things from there. Want more (female) friends? Wear a lot of -nol, but be prepared to

open your heart to them. Want to have sex now? Wear a lot of -none, but you'd better have some smooth moves to put

women at ease, and you'd better be ready for some raw, emotion-free sex.

It sounds like you just want want to

figure out if these things even work at all. Well, if that's your goal, I recommend trying some of the pheromone

components in relative isolation. You could start with that TE:SPMO:AE mix of yours, since it's already mixed and

it's mostly -none (and doesn't smell TOO bad, I hope). I'd stick with about the same dosage as you were

using--maybe 2-6 sprays to start, with maybe 1 refresh spray every 4 hours--and try interacting more with people.

You won't notice people initiating contact any more with you if you're (just) wearing -none, but they should react

to you differently. Try telling people jokes, especially random strangers. People will probably laugh at even the

unfunny ones, but won't find the really funny ones as funny as they normally would. Basically, they'll probably

laugh more out of the social need to appease than out of humor. Also, try telling stories in front of groups while

wearing this mix: if you get any success whatsoever, you'll find it much easier to get the group's

attention than before, as if you're somehow an authority on whatever subject you're discussing.

Later, try

out some SOE by itself. 1/3 to 2/3 of a packet should be good. You should notice people open up a lot, and,

depending on the culture of the area where you live, you might even see people start to approach you and start

talking about whatever is on their minds.

But most importantly, take your time. Give it a couple of weeks. One

day is too short a time to figure out how a mix is working. Try the same mix/dosage for a few days. You'll probably

see things the first day that you think was related that you'll later realize weren't, and so forth. And don't

expect too much. (Warning: oversimplification coming.) Pheromones are unique among scent-like chemicals in

that they affect the limbic system of the brain (i.e., the "reptilian/visceral/emotional brain") directly, without

the messages passing through the cerebral cortex ("conscious/cognitive/thinking brain"). However, it's important to

remember that all of the decisions that really matter are made by the cortex, not the limbic system; if a girl

decides to sleep with you, it will be because her cortex tells her to, not because her limbic system does. The

limbic system is important because it acts as a sort of "data source" which the cortex uses to make decisions. The

cortex will look at the emotions and memories associated with a person, and decide what actions to take regarding

that person. Pheromones won't make girls act like animals. Animals have much smaller cortices, and proportionally

larger and more empowered limbic systems than humans. Pheromones won't make the limbic system take over in humans;

they will only change what the limbic system says.

Anyway, good luck. I hope you figure out how to use them and

what to expect. And if not, there's always that money-back thing of Bruce's.