Ideological Spectrum redux

[Rbt]

What we truely need on the ballot is

a choice of "None of the above."

But that will probably never happen as Mr./Ms. None will probably win by a

landslide every time. Much too much of a shock to the established parties. It would become so overwhelmingly

apparent that neither (or most any) party is worth a shit they would lose whatever "power" they think, or would like

to believe, they have.

I suppose in a way we already have that option as reflected in the vast numbers of

eligible voters who don't vote at all. I know there are times I will leave a position/office unvoted on. However I

ALWAYS go to each and every polling, especially the "unimportant" primaries, as that is where they like to stick the

tax hikes and other sneaky pork-filled propositions.

[belgareth]

I probably said that badly. I

go to the polls every time and agree with you about the pork filled bills. My tactic is to vote no or against or to

stop anything and everything unless a really good case is made to do otherwise, which is rarely. I don't think we

need any new laws and I don't think we need any new taxes. We are being ruled, regulated and taxed to death.

A

radio station, some years ago, promoted a campaign called D.R.I.P.

Don't
Return
Incumbant
Politicians

I

still practice it. Term limits for all.

[idesign]

Bel and Rbt, I can understand

both of your points of view. Given the perceived lack of a discernible choice, you'll simply avoid choosing

between flawed candidates. I agree with your assessment, but not your strategy.

What I'm wondering is what the

voting "middle" is thinking, or not. As I said, there's no way to know, but its disturbing to me that a viable

chunk of the national voting bloc is so easily swayed, especially now that the fruit of their votes is paying off so

poorly. What the Moderates fell for in 08 is now pissing many of them off.

I guess the whole point of my

question is that who are the ones who swung when they should have held? I still believe that it was an ignorant

segment who "believed" in a seductive but false Hope, and did not think.

I'm concerned because the direction

this administration is taking us is so much more than about socialism. National sovereignty and personal freedom

are being compromised at every level, and its not by accident.

[belgareth]

It isn't so much a strategy as

an ethical dilema. Do you cast a vote for a person you believe is a crook just because he is less a crook than the

other guy or do you vote based on your conscience and not vote when there is nobody to vote for? I think that voting

for the lesser crook is a voting for the status quo so refuse to give them my vote.

I'm concerned because the direction this administration is taking us is so much more than about socialism.

National sovereignty and personal freedom are being compromised at every level, and its not by

accident.

Yeah, I mentioned that in a debate a few years ago on this forum. This country is moving towards

socialism at an alarming rate. We are steadily losing our freedoms for things the federal government should have no

hand in, while the federal government does not do the jobs it is supposed to be doing.

I also see a lot of

resentment building against the government and wonder how far that will go. Here in Texas there is a lot of talk of

secession and Texas has that legal right. It was part of the deal when they joined the union. The talk has gotten

louder and comes from places like the governor's office.

Even that only worries me a little. What really has me

concerned is the threat of violence if the goverment continues along the path it is on. I think it is coming and it

will not be pretty when it happens. There are too many angry people the government is ignoring.

[Rbt]

I know I may get some flak for this,

but the fact of the matter is is that Mr. Obama also had backing from a segment of the population that has felt

disenfranchised for a very long time, especially thanks to the efforts of the Jessie Jacksons of the world. It may

not have mattered what his policies are/were, but the fact he wasn't a good ol' southern white boy (Bush, Clinton,

even Carter) I think had an influence. Politics, like the stock market, is less about logic and more about

emotions.

And yes, Texas has the distinction of having joined the "union" by way of a treaty. So They can leave

anytime they want.

[idesign]

And yes,

Texas has the distinction of having joined the "union" by way of a treaty. So They can leave anytime they

want.

Hey Bel, got a spare bedroom at your place???

[belgareth]

Hey Bel,

got a spare bedroom at your place???

My kid seems to think half the military is going to end up in Texas

if that happens. I may be renting space on the lawn.