PI is the best .none product on
the block. I have every .none product in existence, .none is great, because you get hits with it, and not just
mindless chatter from .nol.
Like I've mentioned in other threads, I've been experiencing some outrageous hits with PI.
The
problem is that in many situations, it seems to good to be true, and I really have avoided the hits because I don't
know how to handle them.
For example, what do you do in these types of situations...
...you're sitting
somewhere. A girl and her boyfriend sit down nearby and the girl is staring at you, throwing you glances, despite
chatting with her boyfriend. The boyfriend also throws you confusing/hostile glances, wondering why his girl is
staring your way, and starts to act really protective of his girlfriend.
...or, you're sitting somewhere in the
vicinity of what you believe are some very good-looking guys. You are not gay, but these guys are very muscular,
tall, and portray the typical characteristics girls go crazy over. Yet, the girls completely ignore these awesome
guys and come to you...and you're not some model or anything. This annoys the studs and they look at you oddly.
And this all happens without you even opening your mouth...it's not like the girls enjoy your personality because
you haven't even shown that yet.
...or, you're sitting somewhere, and a little kid who was sitting in their
dad's lap, runs over to you...as if excited you've finally arrived. They get really amused by your presence and
act like you're their long lost relative who used to bring them toys.
These types of experiences are so
inexplicable I try to avoid them like the plague. Because it casts an image of suspicion on you, and it makes
people all around wonder "why?"
Anyone know how to dodge these types of situations or stuff you can say when it
happens? (I mean, of course I can stop using 'mones...but I meant beside that option. When it starts happening, I
almost feel like everywhere I go there is going to be a spotlight on me, and sometimes I'll just get tired of it
and spend the rest of the day at home. This is the conclusion I came to before this summer...and that's why I
stopped using 'mones for most of this last summer...too much attention to be honest. But I've only returned to
using 'mones for a month or so, so I wasn't planning on stopping again so soon.)
thanks
PI is the best .none product on
the block. I have every .none product in existence, .none is great, because you get hits with it, and not just
mindless chatter from .nol.
I just typed a long-ass
post which my browser ate, so I'll try to summarize.
Smooth, I think you're worrying WAY too much about these
things. All of the results you listed could be attributed to super tight body language, good looks (I am sure you
are a good-looking guy, even if you don't think you compare to some of these other 'more alpha' guys you talk
about, just because of the results you have been having, and because you said you've had DIHL's pre-pheromone
usage), good style, other factors, or even natural pheromones.
Have you ever seen a girl who you didn't think
was conventionally attractive, or who wasn't your usual type, physically, but you couldn't stop thinking about
pulling their panties down and fucking them up against the nearest wall? Did you think that it was because of her
pheromones? Whether you did or you didn't, there's no way to know. Maybe you were attracted to the tilt of her
nose, or the way she held herself, or maybe you subconsciously perceived that the other guys around all wanted to
fuck her, and so you were influenced by that. Humans can rarely tell exactly what makes them attracted to someone,
and we often backwards-rationalize when we find ourselves attracted to someone we normally wouldn't expect to be
attracted to, in order to explain why we feel the way we do. I guarantee you, most people don't consider pheromones
in the equation.
Here's the thing though, if you act like you are not used to the attention and do not feel
deserving of it in comparison to the other guys around, that attitude will rub off on the women who were initially
attracted to you (I know -- this is my biggest problem right now). If you truly believe you are more deserving of
female attention than the other guys in the room, and you are getting it, it will seem natural. Women will think you
have 'something special' that they won't be able to put their finger on, but they'll chase you for it.
Yep, I hateHave you ever seen a girl
who you didn't think was conventionally attractive, or who wasn't your usual type, physically, but you couldn't
stop thinking about pulling their panties down and fucking them up against the nearest wall?
that when that happens. It's gotten me into serious trouble in the past so I resist with all my might. I doubt it
was the tilt of her nose (!) but nothing is more confusing than getting involved with a woman you are both repelled
and attracted to.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
What about situations when
girls standing in front or by you in night club start grinding their ass against your crotch.... not strongly but
lightly, but constantly touching you with their ass as they casually shake it to the music...
is this the
strongest possible signal of interest? Or they just playing?
Anyone have experience with starting a conversation
in an ass-grinding situation like this?
Either a very overt signal, or the
place just being too cramped.
Seeing as the last time I had the pleasure of getting "rubbing hits" in a club
that was packed so full you literally couldn't move without bumping into somebody was last night, this is not so
surprising.
Then again, clubs are designed this way because 1) smaller is cheaper 2) the owners figured out
that the more body contact there is, the more money they make.
Girls have, of course, gotten to the point of
blatantly rubbing their asses against interesting guys out of sheer frustration over the average western male's
approach anxiety. There was a time where a glance across a meadow sufficed. Today, they literally have to club the
guy on the head and drag him to their caves...roles reversed.
It's just retarded that
instead of saying "hey, wanna dance?", they start grinding your crotch while acting like they're not interested.
It gives me the impression these girls have low self-esteem and want attention or want to get me to _ask_ them to
dance (doesn't mean they want to dance with me or anyone), so that her self-esteem/status would rise from a high
status guy asking her.
Both of these grinders were with 2-3 girlfriends, so I figured it's a status raising
attempt in front of their friends... gave them the "You Wish!" look and moved on.
how much pi have uOriginally Posted by smooth312
been using? and where on you?
ThatsOriginally Posted by visual999
just the way a lot of women dance in clubs. If you can't dance, they'll walk away. If you can dance, they'll
usually keep dancing, so long as they aren't absolutely repulsed by you.
It really isn't a sign of low
self-esteem.
Bronzie,Originally Posted by bronzie
Perhaps it's too early to make a conclusion
but I observed that a-none (The Edge) at the moment looks like has no effect yet on Asian girls. The only reaction
that I have so far is that women say I smell nice. That's because I mix it with Pherlure. Since pheromones effect
is very subjective in its results, I've to be positive in this matter. Recently, Smooth wrote that SOE works on
Asian women, so I guess I've to try it too as well as the otherwise I won't know what will work for me or
will take effects on the people in South East Asia.
Have a nice day.
Shah.
I understand that, but wasn't happening on dance floor, they were just standing there inOriginally Posted by Sigma
group (not moving to the music), moving here and there and when they "just happened" to move in front of me, one
started grinding.... never had that happened without pheros in clubs (outside of dance floor)...
then I moved
away and like 30 secs later another group of 3 chicks that were previously standing there wihtout moving to the
music just happens to move in front of me and the one with the biggest booty starts grinding and acting like she's
not even noticing me, while I could see she's in eye contact with her girlfriend who's checking out my reaction to
the grind...
put yourself into that situation, what would you think the chick is thinking when she's grinding
you while she won't even make eye contact when you move to her side .... would you start conversation with a chick
like that?
I thinkOriginally Posted by visual999
you're reading too much into it. She wanted someone to dance with, not someone to talk to. Maybe she was just
messing with you. Chances are if she was interested in anything you had to say, she would have given you some kind
of acknowledgement. Either way you're overreacting to the situation, and probably attributing way too much to the
pheromones.
This type of 'hit', if it is one, is not very characteristic of something with as much none as
PI.
Some things are just to beOriginally Posted by smooth312
enjoyed, and in this situation you should enjoy the stroking of your ego with hopes that the boyfriend doesn't kick
your a$$. It's okay to enjoy your hits, it doesn't mean you have to act on'em all.
[quote=smooth312...or,
you're sitting somewhere in the vicinity of what you believe are some very good-looking guys. You are not gay, but
these guys are very muscular, tall, and portray the typical characteristics girls go crazy over. Yet, the girls
completely ignore these awesome guys and come to you...and you're not some model or anything. This annoys the studs
and they look at you oddly. And this all happens without you even opening your mouth...it's not like the girls
enjoy your personality because you haven't even shown that yet.[/quote]
Relaaaaaaaaaaax, normally people don't
just get up and kick your rear 'cause you're getting all the attention; but ... it would be good if you can run
and run fast in this sit-chation.
Relaaaaax, go with the flow ... let'em wonder, Smoothee. You could also stop using mones ifOriginally Posted by smooth312
it's bothering that much. I didn't think so.
How much and how
are you applying PI? Is is better than your SOE:NPA/AE:NPA mix ... I think that was you using those at work?
Thanks!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I think you confused me with the original posterOriginally Posted by Sigma
...was wearing SoE, lots of it and a tiny
dab on NPA... this rubbing and grinding is very typical of SoE, though everybody says it should make girls chatty.
You make some really good points Live4.Originally Posted by live4themusic
You know, the thing is, this is one of
my biggest problems as well: if you act like you are not used to the attention and do not feel deserving of it in
comparison to the other guys around, that attitude will rub off on the women who were initially attracted to
you.
I mean, I can't seem to get used to the attention. Most times that I've tried to start a coversation with
the chick who's fawning over me I've been a nervous wreck to be honest. Only the times that I've started talking
a girl because I felt like it, and THEN she started showing the classic signs, have I been fine. It's like when
I'm in a situation where all the chicks are staring, I can't help but laugh to myself and think 'I'm serious not
THAT good-looking' ...I should get over it though and try to believe in myself more I guess...
The other thing
is...the last time I didn't wear any PI it felt different without all the constant attention. So I've just been
contemplating how much of this is PI or how much is me...I think a lot of it is PI, but maybe because I have decent
looks it works better? I'm not so sure. Yesterday I did a little 'experiment' and went to the store with PI,
but looking like a slob...unshaven, wearing my pajamas, beat-up sneakers, hair not combed, and just a tiny bit of
cover cologne. I got absolutely no hits. I thought I would get hits...but I guess some of it does have to do with
the way I dress / present myself.
I useOriginally Posted by blooot
about 1/2-3/4 of a drop on my neck primarily and behind my ears.
I've noticed that if you don't wash off your
application spots at night (at least for me)...that the 'mone signature gets stronger the next day. For example, I
actually wore just 3/4 of a drop on Wednesday of last week...and then nothing on Thursday, but I still seemed to
have OD'd on Thursday because I didn't wash them off Wedn. night. I took a shower the next morning, but it
didn't matter.
I've also noticed when you take a shower, if you rub the application spots, it seems to actually
aggravate the skin and bring more 'mones to the surface...so it's worse (in terms of OD'ing).
Also, I made
some notes a while back about how I take supplements such as Fenugreek and ZMA (which boost natural test)...they're
totally legal and cheap. I also said how I don't masturbate...
Well...I've noticed none of that makes a
difference. I haven't really been taking those 2 things lately, and I've been so unable to capitalize on my hits
that masturbation has become my new best friend. But the hits keep coming. Seriously though, I need to up my game
and get some confidence, I think that's my biggest problem, I'm always in such disbelief of the hits. Especially
when the girl is too hot. It's ridiculous because some guys would kill to be in my situations when I go
places...I'm starting to think that these hits are worthless if I can't do anything about them.
Well, SOE works best because it seems to get them non-stopOriginally Posted by Mohammad
Shah
talking...which usually around me they're really shy.
I didn't notice that you're in southeast Asia...I've
noticed Filipino chicks dig PI as well somewhat. Not as strong of a hit as I get from the usual chicks, but they do
like it. PI is usually too strong for asian chicks though, and I've noticed it scares them more than
helping.
SOE is funny as hell though. It gets girls talking absolutely nonsense, just for the sake of it. It's
hilarious when it's working...even if she's not saying anything funny, the fact that she's talking 20x more than
she usually does about random stuff she never would...just cracks me up. Happened today also...
Smooth, if you don't want
to do this I would understand, but I'm really starting to think there might be something special about your bottle
of PI specifically. I mean I think I've read that the makers of PI are not as reliable as LaCroy(makers of The edge
and NPA) when it comes to standardizing the pheromone contents of their products.
So I would be REALLY interested
in seeing if acquaintances of yours have the same kinds of reactions to your PI as you do... I know you don't want
other people to know you are using pheromones, so obviously this would be hard, but here is one thing I was
thinking:
You could buy a few cologne sample bottles, add a few drops of PI to each, and give them to friends who
you interact with frequently as 'gifts'. Observe.
It is kind of farfetched but let me know what you think,
because you are having results that exceed anything I thought possible with -none. Or maybe you're just much
better-looking than you give yourself credit for.
Smooth, thanks a lot.Originally Posted by smooth312
Yes, I live in Malaysia which is a multi-racial country
and a peaceful one. The 3 major ethnics are Malays, Chinese and Indians which give me a wide range of opportunities
to conduct my pheromone tests.
Planning to order the SOE combo as well as the . Hopefully, with this I
can see some positive results.
I'm not so sure about the VNO theory, but I somehow feel that the Asians in this
region are immune to certain type of pheromones! Of course this is not true as I said in my earlier post that it's
too early to make any conclusion. Further more, I haven't tried most of the pheromones sold by L-S. Anyway, let's
see how it goes.
Oh! ya, I forgot to say. If there's any of this forum member would like to visit Malaysia,
please don't hesitate to contact me. Can stay in my house...save on the hotel bills.
Thanks again.
"The
only way to have a friend is to be one" - Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Shah.
Seriously?Originally Posted by Mohammad Shah
I may actually take you up on that offer sometime.
That would be awesome...
Of course I'm serious! All forum members here are welcome.Originally Posted by smooth312
Shah
Hey Live, I'm actually going to doOriginally Posted by live4themusic
something like this! Yes, it's farfetched, but I figured why not?
I'm going to do a few different
tests...
1) I've added 5 drops of PI to a sample of Kenneth Cole Black Code cologne, which I will give to a
friend..."because it's nice-smellling cologne" I'm going to tell him that when I've used the cologne girls like
how I smell, and ask him to let me know how it goes when he wears it. hehehehe...this is going to rock...I feel
kinda evil...
2) I'm going to do the same thing with my dad. I always give my dad free cologne samples and we
trade/share colognes, so it can go unnoticed easily...I just hope he doesn't end up in a bad situation, lol!
You know what's funny though, my mom (I live at home), found my bottle of Liquid Trust, and I've yet to
explain to her what it is. I think this will be quite interesting of a discussion...
It's actually been pretty
darn awkward around my folks when I've been wearing PI. I've tried to avoid them as much as possible because the
effects have even been apparent in them. They would act so damn weird around me that I would try to not see them as
much as possible...which is not unusual though because I do my own thing and they're pretty cool with whatever I
do.
Still, because of that, and because I just can't to get my game on full-swing with PI, I've decided to put
it on the shelf for a while and go back to using just straight NPA. NPA is still a very solid product and I get
hits with it too, but not nearly as much as PI. Still, I think I can handle the hits a lot better with NPA because
it's not like a whole group of girls following me when I wear it, lol. PI is for when I get my game back up to
par, or for special occasions where I want to close the deal.
Anyway, I'll let you guys know how that
experimenting goes (I'll probably make a separate thread)...
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