Yeah PF works great for me even though I know this is not the case with most folk that post here from what I\'ve noticed. I did try JB#3 when Jambat first mentioned the creation of his new mix, and initially I seemed to be getting good hits, but the results seemed to be the most inconsistent of any of the pheros I\'ve used. I tried using less and using more but could never find the right amount to cause consistent pos. results. So I pretty much stick with JB#1, NPA on it\'s own and PF or Yes/PF. Interestingly, the only major neg. OD experiences I\'ve had with pheros have been with JB#3 and NPA so maybe it has something to do with the amount of NPA.