Friendly, do other women pick up
on these body language cues or signs of attraction that these woman are displaying?
So, I am taking a
3-day class. I decided to SCREAM pheromonically and have been using strong applications of Natural Attraction with
Jaipur (Monday) and The Edge with Amouage Dia (Tuesday).
I also decided that, since I will probably never see
these people again, I will not try to socialize. I have barely spoken a word to anyone. That ain't easy for me, let
me tell you.
Anyway, the first day I walked into class wearing a nice new dark blue Dockers sport shirt and
charcoal Stain Defender pants. Most of the guys are wearing jeans and polo shirts or t-shirts. A few guys are
wearing plaid button-down shirts. They generally look very relaxed and slobby. The instructor is wearing a navy-blue
"power suit".
I quickly scanned the classroom and picked a seat on the end of a row near a cute young Hispanic
woman (subsequently referred to as Mrs. Hot Latina) who was wearing a sweat shirt and jeans. Her dark hair was
pulled back with a rubber band.
As the class filled up, several women came to sit in front of me and behind me.
There was one guy within one row of me. I was surrounded by women.
All day long I observed the women glancing at
me, fonding their hair, tapping their feet, and acting generally fidgeting. A very well-dressed, tall blond woman
(probably in her 30s) sat behind the cute Hispanic beside me. I glanced down at the blond's feet at one point in
the morning and saw she was dangling her right shoe on her toes. Her foot was pointed toward me.
Later on, I
glanced at the blond's feet again and BOTH shoes were off, both feet were pointed toward me, and the toes were
curled up. She was also sitting forward in her chair, seeming very intent on the class.
I admit, I developed the
hots for the Hispanic woman (Mrs. Hot Latina) next to me, but I overheard a telephone conversation she had (she WAS
sitting next to me) in which she mentioned a husband (hence, the MRS. in "Mrs. Hot Latina") and daughter, so I
stayed the course and just kept observing reactions around me. The men were generally polite toward me and opened
doors, etc.
So, Mrs. Hot Latina was bouncing in her chair all day. I mean, her legs did not stop moving up and
down. She was constantly fiddling with a marker she was using to highlight her textbook, and she eventually came
around to the classic "stroke-the-pen" motion. Another woman sitting to her left kept looking straight past her (in
my direction).
I am sure I had hair-flips and struts from women on the other side of the classroom. I mean, they
would get up and go on break and walk in front of me, even from the back of the room (there are two doors). Almost
all of them glanced my way as they left and returned to the room.
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Friendly, do other women pick up
on these body language cues or signs of attraction that these woman are displaying?
There was one Asian woman,
probably mid-20s, who has sat in the back of the room on both days so far. Monday, she walked up to the
instructor's desk and spoke with him, but she kept looking at me. Tuesday, I got a few glances but nothing really
as noticeable as on Monday.
Tuesday, I wore a red Dockers sport shirt with white pants. BTW -- both days I've
used 3 sprays of pheromones on my chest and 1 spray on each arm just below the elbow. I covered all application
points with cologne.
So, Tuesday, I got to the class late and noticed that my hot Latina had moved a couple of
rows closer to the front of the room. She was safely ensconced between the woman who had sat on her left on Monday
and another girl I didn't recognize, a somewhat cute blond girl.
Mrs. Hot Latina, however, was dressed much
more nicely today and her hair was held back with a clip rather than a rubber-band. I caught her glancing at me a
couple of times and her legs continued to bounce all day. She occasionally raised her feet up so only the toes were
touching the ground. She would also whip her hair over her left shoulder, baring her neck in my direction.
The
tall blond who had sat behind her yesterday took the opportunity to sit down next to me today. Both the women on
either side of Mrs. Hot Latina kept looking at me over their shoulders (the one from Monday quickly turned away
every time I caught her looking at me).
However, in general, I noticed less hair-flipping and nervous behavior.
There were fewer glances, too, but there were also fewer people in the class. I don't know enough to really say
much.
I think Mrs. Hot Latina instinctively removed herself from our previous location because she is not
available and doesn't want to be distracted. I think she invited two women to sit with her as protection. I think
she was nonetheless agitated and fidgety because of the pheromones.
I didn't really pay much attention to the
tall blond. I mean, my eyes are probably about level with the top of her breasts (she was wearing heels on
Tuesday). She did talk to me a couple of times, but I haven't tried to say anything to her (I replied as politely
as I could). So far as I can tell, the tall blond is not married. She made a phone call on Monday which led me to
conclude she lives alone (which could mean nothing -- her husband or boyfriend/fiance could be traveling and the
conversation just didn't mention that fact).
The body language of these women is very similar. Almost all of
the women on my side of the room (sitting near me or in front of me) have spread their legs apart, tapped their
feet, dangled their shoes, glanced in my direction repeatedly (remember, I am NOT saying much in the class), and
have sounded nervous when speaking in front of the class.
On both days, I have touched up with APC and Natural
Attraction at lunch time. The touchups are not necessary -- I just want to be cruel.
In the hallways, when I go
on breaks, I get plenty of looks and smiles from the women. Of course, for all I know, they are looking and smiling
at all the men. It's not like the hallways aren't crowded when everyone is out there.
It's funny, though,
how my side of the room is mostly filled with women but is less crowded than the other side of the room, which is
mostly filled with men. Many of the women did dress a little better on Tuesday than on Monday, but the
instructor's suit may have sparked their upgrade in dress standards.
Still, Mrs. Hot Latina's hair looked
really sexy on Tuesday. Monday it was kind of blah. Tuesday, I am sure she did something to it. It seemed to have
more body. Maybe she was taunting me. "You can look, but you can't touch."
Can't think of anything else
significant about the class. I was probably focusing too much on Mrs. Hot Latina. Fortunately, when she sat
forward on Tuesday, she sat between me and the instructor. I was able to gaze at that hair and her occasionally
bare neck all day long. Her skin is almost perfect.
Several of the women had their hair tied back, and I
noticed they would every now and then flip it over the shoulder farthest from me. I never once saw a woman cover
her neck in my direction.
The baring of the neck is a classic flirt signal, as is the hair flipping. The
bouncing feet/legs is a sign of nervousness or excitement. The over-the-shoulder glances and quick turnaways are
signs of interest. The dangling shoes are signs of symbolic undressing. Hair stroking is a sign that the woman
wants a man to stroke her hair. I also saw a couple of women (including Mrs. Hot Latina) remove their glasses, a
sign of openness (and also a "come talk to me signal" in some situations).
No single movement or gesture by
itself really means anything. But I believe I was on the minds of a lot of women throughout the class.
I even
saw Mrs. Hot Latina stroke her neck a few times (which can be a "you're coming on too strong" gesture) on Monday,
not at all on Tuesday. She knew I was looking at her. I really made no attempt to hide my fascination with her. I
just think she is the sexiest woman in the class (if not the most physically attractive by most standards). She is
sexy because she seems energetic, fresh, excited, and healthy. A lot of the other women seemed tired to me. I
don't know how to explain it, especially given their agitated behavior.
The agitation, fidgeting, nervous
laughter and nervous speech, are all signs that they were feeling the effect of the pheromones.
I thinkOriginally Posted by TRock
women generally know when the women around them are excited and interested in something. Women are MUCH better at
reading body language (and at communicating their feelings through body language) than men.
So, yes, even though
I never heard any comments about me (or which I could ambiguously interpret to be about me), I believe the women
knew each other were checking me out. I think they knew I was interesting to at least several other women in the
group.
I honestly believe Mrs. Hot Latina made a conscious decision to stay away from me, but nonetheless left
herself in my view. I think she wanted me to see that she can be sexy and dress nice without having to follow
through. I think she enjoyed the feeling of having me look at her, but had found a way not to feel guilty about it
because she couldn't look back at me.
I think the women sitting with her understood at some inner level WHY
they were sitting with her. It would have been impossible for me to sit next to her. I would have been so
blatantly trying to approach her it would have been a socially unacceptable move on my part.
So, while SHE was
declaring herself off-limits, I think the other two (one of whom tried to talk to me -- that would be the blond I
didn't see on Monday) were trying to let me know they WERE interested and wanted me to introduce myself, somehow.
I think the tall blond also wanted to get to know me a little better. And I think she saw an opportunity to stake
some turf and took it.
Ive been told that the pheromone
effect on the women i have told about pheromones (close friends) when im wearing the more powerful stuff is like a
walking orgasim in some cases
The classic foot tapping, hair flipping, leg bouncing, fiddling , subconscious
behaviour ie moving closer etc is just the turned on comforatable feeling they have with pheromone
reactions
Still note non tried to strike up a conversation a point for young guys trying pheromones to get
women to make the first move - 5% of all sexual reactions are like this 95% of the time you will still need to
strike up a conversation - even if for social covnersation and practice most of the time it goes nowhere but
occasionally youll get a dinner invitation etc.
But friendly very good posts - the quality around here has
improved a lot latley.
I'm not discouraging
anything friendly has said, but sometimes you overlook things or get too carried away. Who knows what Mrs Latina,
was thinking maybe she moved away from him because she didn't even like him. I'm not saying he's wrong, but to
analyze everything a women does is impossible. I see those signs alot, i'm sure half of them aren't interested in
me or atleast sexually.Very good post on body language, learned of few myself through this post
A lot of them have nothing to do
but a comparison between days with no pheromones and a pheromone OD / pheromone scream day is something to go off
when the hair tapping etc is normally not happening and when you apply the pheromones and they all go off of course
the impact has to be pheromones.
7 years of usage by myself has more than proven this. In terms of body
language good post but the thing with pheormones is that it is at times a very haphazard response pattern
Her choice in new seat could have had absolutely nothing to do with me. I almost followed up with aOriginally Posted by lordcrazyd
lengthy disclaimer. My report is peppered with my interpretations, but I think it is obvious to most people
(certainly to those of you who have been here a long time) that I WAS interpreting what I was seeing.
I have
questioned other people's interpretations of what THEY saw. I thought it would be good for me to just go forward
with the commentary and not try to explain it or qualify it.
But read on. OHMYGOD....
Wednesday was the last day of the class. I don't expect to ever see any of these peopleOriginally Posted by Friendly1
again. But, God, I wish I could bag Mrs. Hot Latina.
It rained in Houston Wednesday morning and a lot of people
were late to class. I had already taken my seat when she came in.
FRICKIN DRESSED TO KILL! My mouth nearly hit
the floor.
This woman is wearing a silver wedding ring. She has not done anything to encourage me.
But she
was showing off the goods on the last day of class, right down to her choice of shoe (spiked half-boot). She wore a
very "business-like" outfit, but it was nonetheless tight, form-fitting, sexy, and SEXY. BTW -- did I mention it
was tight, form-fitting, and S*E*X*Y????
She sat next to her friend from the first two days two rows ahead of me
again. She made deliberate eye contact with me a few times but ignored me most of the day. Nonetheless, she found
plenty of excuses to stand up and parade in front of me. Every time, I somehow was treated to a full body view,
front and back.
I felt like the horniest high school kid in Creation, if you understand what I mean.
Nearly
all the other women who had been making eye contact with me the first two days barely paid any attention to me. The
friend did repeatedly keep looking at me. After all, as I stared at Mrs. Hot Latina with drool running down my
sleeve, I was easily able to establish eye contact with the friend whenever she turned around in her chair to look
straight at me. She usually looked away quickly when she saw me looking at her.
BTW -- the friend ALSO dressed
up kind of sexy. She was showing some midrift (this is a professional licensing class -- not the place women expect
to pick up men). She was showing the goods, too, with a tight sweater, but she had nothing on Mrs. Hot Latina.
And let me say that, if you lined up all the women in the class, Mrs. Hot Latina would probably have gotten fifth
place on looks. There were two tall, slim, curvacious blonds, a really cute Asian girl, the friend, and a svelt
Black girl in the back of the room. Several of the other women were nearly as physically attractive as Mrs. Hot
Latina.
What set her apart, in my eyes, from all the other women (who mostly figured out who I was lusting after,
in my opinion) was her hair and her skin. Her figure is well-rounded but slightly plump. I mean, she is
well-accentuated but definitely a very curvacious woman.
And her mouth is a bit square. It sort of doesn't go
with her face. But she is very pretty when she takes her glasses off (something she did frequently throughout the
Wednesday class -- another classic "I am interested" signal).
All I know for sure is that SHE knew I was
checking her out. She made no effort to move to another part of the classroom. Her friend (whom I was also
checking out, but with less enthusiasm) made no effort to move to another part of the room. They could easily have
gotten out of my view range. As it was, both Tuesday and Wednesday, I had the full liberty of gazing at both of
them from an angle because they sat directly between me and the instructor.
So, I was able to pretend I was
looking attentively at the instructor, even though I am sure the women knew I wasn't. I doubt the men really had
much clue about what was going on.
You guys just would have to see her to understand why I was so turned on.
And you wouldn't necessarily have agreed with my choice in women. I am sure the tall blond sitting next to me (for
the second day in a row) would have been top of many men's lists.
Nonetheless, Mrs. Hot Latina was the star of
the class and she KNEW it. She knew it well enough that she APPRECIATED my attention, and basked in it. She came
in decked out the tightest slacks I've ever seen on a woman without revealing ANY inappropriate skin. She
displayed beauty, sexiness, and CLASS. She had STYLE.
Her long black hair goes down to the middle of her back.
She used the hair clip again and readjusted it every time she came back into the room, or every time I came back
into the room. Her hair is rich, thick, clean, and shiny. She could do hair shampoo commercials.
Her eyes are
like stars glinting through the trees. I don't like her glasses. They're sort of square Granny-like glasses, and
I think she removed them so often because she knows they detract from her looks.
In my opinion, this is a
reasonably happily married woman who suddenly found herself the object of a mysterious man's attention. She
enjoyed the feeling, even though she knew she shouldn't have.
I saw her remove that wedding ring a couple of
times. Figdeting with a ring is sometimes an indication of a sub-conscious desire to step outside the boundaries of
marriage.
Her feet were constantly moving on Wednesday, just like on Tuesday. I didn't have as good a view of
her feet on Wednesday, but every time I saw them, they were either bobbing up and down, or tilted on a side (turned
out) -- never firmly grounded.
She was excited, agitated, nervous, or something. Maybe the stress of having to
take the licensing exam and class is what kept her so anxious, but I was wearing strong applications of
pheromones.
In fact, Wednesday, I decided to risk total isolation by slathering on extra copious amounts of APC
and Natural Attraction (I was wearing Amouage Dia as well) at lunch time. I know when I came back from lunch, I was
on every woman's radar screen. The men were avoiding me like the plague.
Well, I can't say any more without
repeating myself. The class ended and I had to leave before she did. If she hadn't been married, I would have
introduced myself to her. In fact, I'll admit I gave her the opportunity during a break (two opportunities, in
fact) to speak to me, or at least look at me with an invitation to say something to her. Unfortunately, she was
fixing a cup of coffee and wouldn't turn around. And there were people on both sides of her.
This woman is a
TOTAL BABE who knows she has game and she knows how to work it. She brought it on, and I enjoyed every lust-filled
moment of it. I am sure she was thrilled, too.
All I can say is that we had a three-day encounter without
hardly saying a word to each other. I never expected her to walk into the class the way she did Wednesday
morning.
OHMYGOD....
WHEW!
You know, it's not often I get twisted around like that. It's kind of fun to encounterOriginally Posted by pheromack
someone out of reach that way (on occasion).
But the class is over, I passed the exam, and it's time to move
on.
Yep friendly 1 keep us updated on
youre adventures though - i mean any future "projects of pheromone screaming"
But yes pretty well everything
you say ie the women hanging around dressing up in a sexy manner, body language, the not striking up a conversation,
or striking up a conversation are all pretty well much pheromone enhanced going ons.
Friendly1, you should of
approach her since you had such deep feeling inside to observe her daily. But, the last day came and you didn't
even approach her, man you will never get that chance again. Girls usually dress to impress when they want
attention. Who knows she might not been married. Anyhow, keep us update on your
hits.
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Most (if not all) people
wearing wedding bands are married...
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way. "
~Becca
Someone elseOriginally Posted by ironfire
sponsored me to take that class. My only objective was to learn enough to pass the examination. Besides which, I
meet women every week. I don't lack for new ladies to flirt with, get to know better, etc.
This one was
special in that she really piqued my interest. I think, maybe, my decision not to try and get to know the people in
the class better probably enhanced the experience.
And, yes, maybe she decided she wanted me to make a move.
But I have walked down the road of third man in the marriage once and I don't ever want to do that again, no matter
how exciting the woman may be.
I think pheromones should be
included in psycology studies text books.
I should probably say something
about the dance classes here. During the second Thursday night dance class, the one I was only helping with, the
teacher divided the students into two groups on several occasions. She does this whenever she introduces a new move
which requires different footwork from men and women. I am generally asked, when helping with these classes, to
stand with the men and work with them on perfecting their footwork.
Usually, by the time we get to one of these
break points, at least one of the women has decided she wants to dance with me no matter what. As the most
experienced male dancer in the group, my lead is desirable (almost all the women now compliment me on how well I
dance). But, of course, I also dress nice and wear pheromones. And after 20-30 minutes of vigorous dancing, I am
usually perspiring (as is everyone else -- but the pheromones help me stand out from the crowd).
So, I have high
status in these classes: I am the most experienced, distinguished, and usually best dressed (not always, but
usually) and therefore most "successful" male. I am the Alpha male in these classes, as some of the guys around here
would say.
Guys tend to hang close to their girlfriends (and usually vice versa) when the class is broken up
into separate groups. Husbands and wives always move toward each other.
Husbands and wives frequently stand in
similar poses (mirroring each other's body language). Boyfriends and girfriends SOMETIMES mirror each other's body
language. The girls will be very affectionate with their boyfriends if they are not interested in me. They tend to
avoid their boyfriends (who often disappear the following week) if they ARE interested in me. I cannot remember any
wives coming on to me. I cannot remember any engaged women coming on to me, either (in these classes).
Girls who
flirt with me, have bright, shining eyes when I dance with them, hold me too close, rub up against me, laugh at my
jokes, etc. generally stand with their bodies facing me rather than the teacher (or their boyfriends, if the
boyfriends are present). They will also often mirror my body language.
In this last Thursday class, the students
stood in a circle around the teacher at one point and I noticed one girl was mirroring my body language. Curiously,
the OTHER girls (several of whom had all flirted with me) were standing with their arms crossed under their breasts,
their shoulders drooped in a little, and their heads slightly pointed down.
The rapport between them was
tremendous, but they all looked kind of depressed and defeated to me. It just seemed very, very odd.
I don't
remember if this moment came after the girl who mirrored me had hit me with her braided pony-tail (I described this
incident in another thread here). It may be this incident did occur after the pony-tail hit. If the other women saw
that interaction between us, then I suppose their body language was signaling that they were conceding the
competition to her (she made me laugh, whereas the rest of them failed to do so -- also, I grabbed her hair and held
it -- an act of appropriation or dominance which I didn't think about at the time -- I guess it could have been
unconsciously or consciously perceived as me marking my turf).
In past classes, I have often noticed 2-3 girls
mirroring my body language when the students were standing around the teacher, but never anything like this, where
one girl assumed a dominant stance and the others backed down.
This particular class won't meet again for two
weeks (Thanksgiving week is a break). I am now very curious about what will happen. Will the group dynamics be
reset?
friendly you are noticing them
mirroring body language (always a favourable sexual and or social reaction)
In terms of missed opportunity
like me with friendly1 is sounds like he gets regular opps with the pheromones - in this instance having it happen
dozens of times a day - you can pick and choose.
Friendly1, i notice that you
always apply p-mones the heaviest on your chest and im assuming its under shirt. but winter is approaching and its
getting colder so i think its safe to assume you'll be wearing jackets, sweatshirts, so will you be applying more
p-mones becaiuse of heavier clothing, or you don't think it really makes a difference compared as to wearing
lighter clothing?
How close a person has to be
before he can feel the effect of the mones?
When I first started experimenting with pheromones a couple of years agoOriginally Posted by canivaro
(long before I found Love-Scent), I tried using some clothing-specific pheromones and had disastrous results. My
target gagged.
Since then, I have limited myself to wiping excess pheromones on the front of my shirts.
In
winter, I find the usual OD applications work just fine. That is because I do most of my socializing indoors. And
Houston has pretty mild winters anyway.
Your mileage may vary.
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