Public schools
scare the hell out of me.
The
\'dumbing down\' of America continues to amaze
me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114078,00.html
Edit: Link doesn\'t work, so I\'ll just post the article.
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Translating Shakespeare, the Princess and the \'B\'
Friday, March 12, 2004
By Joanne Jacobs
In Atlanta, students who are \"on track to attend
college\" but have \"poor reading skills\" are reading Shakespeare without Shakespearean language. Study guides
translate Shakespeare into pedestrian modern English, so students don\'t have to struggle. From the Atlanta
Journal-Constitution:
Leon Allen, a student in (Connie) Kollias\' class, didn\'t understand
the original line. But he read the translated sentence aloud with ease.
\"It\'s nice because all those
ancient words aren\'t there,\" he said. \"It is a cool story — what with people making plans to kill
one another. It can be difficult because everyone has strange names, but at least it isn\'t using any of those old
words anymore.\"
In one version, \"Beware the ides of March\" in Julius Caesar becomes \"Beware of March
15.\"
I keep wondering about students who are incapable of reading Shakespearean language yet are
considered \"on track to attend college.\" How can they do college-level work if they can\'t figure out \"lend
me your ears\" isn\'t about organ transplants? Maybe they\'ll just \"attend\" college but not actually pass
any courses.
I remember the joy I experienced when I realized that Shakespeare\'s \"hautboys\" were
oboes and that the word comes from haut bois or high wood. That was so cool.
What the Real World Demands
Students should demonstrate the skills needed for college and work to earn a high school diploma, write
proponents of the American Diploma Project in Education Week.
The American Diploma Project \"set out to
identify the core competencies in mathematics and English language arts that high school graduates must have in
order to enter and succeed in credit-bearing college courses and in decent jobs in high-wage, high-growth
occupations.\"
Employers and college faculty want new employees and students to have high-level math and
English skills.
In math, (the ADP standards) contain content typically taught in Algebra 1, Algebra 2,
geometry, and data analysis and statistics. In English, they demand strong oral and written communications skills
that are staples in college classrooms and high-performance workplaces. They also describe analytic and research
skills that today are commonly found only in high school honors courses.
State graduation exams typically
require ninth and 10th grade skills, far below what\'s necessary to succeed in the 21st century.
Bring
back vocational schools, writes the Happy Carpenter.
I don\'t think there are many students who lack the
aptitude for academic courses. But many lack basic skills and motivation. They don\'t want to spend more years in
a classroom. They do want to qualify for a decent job, and they\'ll work a lot harder if they believe school will
get them somewhere they want to go.
A Princess in a Cadillac Truck
Who needs hard work? For a
California girl, a B average got her a Cadillac truck. She tells her tale to the New York Times.
The
Escalade EXT is a luxury version of another GM pickup, the Chevy Avalanche. It has satellite radio, leather seats
and a navigation system. I haven\'t used the G.P.S. yet, but I will — I get lost easily. I\'m going to
get custom chrome wheels and rims for it. My favorite brand is Lexani. They\'re so nice looking.
...When I
was 13, I started to think about what kind of car I wanted when I started to drive. I saw an EXT in a music video
and thought, \"Hey, having a pickup truck is way cuter than having a car.\" I started babysitting every week to
save money for one. Then I went on the Cadillac Web site and saw how much it cost, and I thought that\'s a lot of
babysitting. Finally, my parents told me if I got a 3.0 G.P.A. or higher on my report card, they\'d buy me any car
I wanted, within reason.
...I looked out the window and saw a brand new EXT parked in front of the
restaurant. It was the color I wanted: \"Out of the Blue.\" I couldn\'t believe it. I was like, \"Oh my God,
are you serious?\" I ran outside in the falling snow, climbed into the truck and sat there for a bit. Then I called
my friends back in California on my cell. The whole thing was like a car commercial.
...The first time I
drove up to the school, about 25 girls came running out to look at it. \"That is so cool,\" they cried. \"We hate
you!\" It was like a dream come true. I felt like, \"Wow, I\'m a princess.\"
Wow.
Secret of the
Eternal Nancy
Nancy Drew, who started sleuthing in 1930, is still searching for clues in the 21st century.
The Christian Science Monitor reports:
This month, Simon & Schuster is giving the classic series a
makeover. The titian-haired sleuth is now a strawberry blonde and she volunteers at an animal shelter. She\'s
traded in her blue Mustang convertible for a hybrid car. She\'s Internet savvy and carries a cellphone. The new
books are now narrated in first person.
Maybe Bess and George finally will get married.
Letters
Elizabeth Ketrick, art teacher, writes:
Thank you for that statement that school is not about fun.
I have enlarged it and will laminate it and post it in my classroom. Because I teach an elective, many students
think that we are in class to have fun. They complain when we do a little art history from our book. Many of my
assignments are based in a historical context. Now when they complain and whine, I can just send them to your
statement and have them read it.
Chris Rioux of Lisbon, Maine, writes:
North Atlantic Regional
Schools provides a diploma only when the student can provide a portfolio of high school work and proof of credit
hours that are equivalent to the State of Maine requirements for graduation.
Joanne Jacobs writes
about education and other issues at JoanneJacobs.com. She’s writing a book, Ride the Carrot Salad, about a
start-up charter high school in San Jose.
Public schools
scare the hell out of me.
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I keep wondering about students who are incapable
of reading Shakespearean language yet are considered \"on track to attend college.\" How can they do college-level
work if they can\'t figure out \"lend me your ears\" isn\'t about organ transplants? Maybe they\'ll just
\"attend\" college but not actually pass any courses.
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I see no
problem with translating Shakespeare. At school age I remember NOT reading shakespeare cause it hurt my head.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Too much to think about. Lots of kids give up and aren\'t
interested enough to try and read him.
I agree that anyone heading to college and wanting to major in english
or theatre etc should understand the original. But for those who don\'t care, translating is a great way to get
accross some great stories with sometimes great life lessons in them.
When you talk
to BB about anything be certain to t-a-l-k r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w
Sometimes I even draw him pictures
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I remember in
10th grade english class, they played us a record of Julius Ceasar. And I turned out just fine.
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And I turned out just fine.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmm
well...........uh........ok.....if you think so
The public
school system is in disarray because of the liberals in the USA and it continues to go down hill like a runaway
locomotive. STOP! with the social engineering and get back to teaching academics. Why do I feel like no one is
listening? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
LOL
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The \'dumbing down\' of America continues to
amaze me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114078,00.html
Edit: Link doesn\'t work, so I\'ll just post the article.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Translating Shakespeare, the Princess and the \'B\'
Friday, March 12, 2004
By Joanne Jacobs
In Atlanta, students who are \"on track to attend college\" but have
\"poor reading skills\" are reading Shakespeare without Shakespearean language. Study guides translate Shakespeare
into pedestrian modern English, so students don\'t have to struggle. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Leon Allen, a student in (Connie) Kollias\' class, didn\'t understand the original line. But he read the
translated sentence aloud with ease.
\"It\'s nice because all those ancient words aren\'t there,\" he
said. \"It is a cool story &#8212; what with people making plans to kill one another. It can be difficult
because everyone has strange names, but at least it isn\'t using any of those old words anymore.\"
In one
version, \"Beware the ides of March\" in Julius Caesar becomes \"Beware of March 15.\"
I keep wondering
about students who are incapable of reading Shakespearean language yet are considered \"on track to attend
college.\" How can they do college-level work if they can\'t figure out \"lend me your ears\" isn\'t about
organ transplants? Maybe they\'ll just \"attend\" college but not actually pass any courses.
I remember the
joy I experienced when I realized that Shakespeare\'s \"hautboys\" were oboes and that the word comes from haut
bois or high wood. That was so cool.
What the Real World Demands
Students should demonstrate the skills
needed for college and work to earn a high school diploma, write proponents of the American Diploma Project in
Education Week.
The American Diploma Project \"set out to identify the core competencies in mathematics and
English language arts that high school graduates must have in order to enter and succeed in credit-bearing college
courses and in decent jobs in high-wage, high-growth occupations.\"
Employers and college faculty want new
employees and students to have high-level math and English skills.
In math, (the ADP standards) contain content
typically taught in Algebra 1, Algebra 2, geometry, and data analysis and statistics. In English, they demand strong
oral and written communications skills that are staples in college classrooms and high-performance workplaces. They
also describe analytic and research skills that today are commonly found only in high school honors courses.
State graduation exams typically require ninth and 10th grade skills, far below what\'s necessary to succeed
in the 21st century.
Bring back vocational schools, writes the Happy Carpenter.
I don\'t think there are
many students who lack the aptitude for academic courses. But many lack basic skills and motivation. They don\'t
want to spend more years in a classroom. They do want to qualify for a decent job, and they\'ll work a lot harder
if they believe school will get them somewhere they want to go.
A Princess in a Cadillac Truck
Who needs
hard work? For a California girl, a B average got her a Cadillac truck. She tells her tale to the New York Times.
The Escalade EXT is a luxury version of another GM pickup, the Chevy Avalanche. It has satellite radio, leather
seats and a navigation system. I haven\'t used the G.P.S. yet, but I will &#8212; I get lost easily. I\'m
going to get custom chrome wheels and rims for it. My favorite brand is Lexani. They\'re so nice looking.
...When I was 13, I started to think about what kind of car I wanted when I started to drive. I saw an EXT in a
music video and thought, \"Hey, having a pickup truck is way cuter than having a car.\" I started babysitting
every week to save money for one. Then I went on the Cadillac Web site and saw how much it cost, and I thought
that\'s a lot of babysitting. Finally, my parents told me if I got a 3.0 G.P.A. or higher on my report card,
they\'d buy me any car I wanted, within reason.
...I looked out the window and saw a brand new EXT parked in
front of the restaurant. It was the color I wanted: \"Out of the Blue.\" I couldn\'t believe it. I was like,
\"Oh my God, are you serious?\" I ran outside in the falling snow, climbed into the truck and sat there for a bit.
Then I called my friends back in California on my cell. The whole thing was like a car commercial.
...The first
time I drove up to the school, about 25 girls came running out to look at it. \"That is so cool,\" they cried.
\"We hate you!\" It was like a dream come true. I felt like, \"Wow, I\'m a princess.\"
Wow.
Secret of
the Eternal Nancy
Nancy Drew, who started sleuthing in 1930, is still searching for clues in the 21st century.
The Christian Science Monitor reports:
This month, Simon & Schuster is giving the classic series a makeover.
The titian-haired sleuth is now a strawberry blonde and she volunteers at an animal shelter. She\'s traded in her
blue Mustang convertible for a hybrid car. She\'s Internet savvy and carries a cellphone. The new books are now
narrated in first person.
Maybe Bess and George finally will get married.
Letters
Elizabeth Ketrick, art
teacher, writes:
Thank you for that statement that school is not about fun. I have enlarged it and will
laminate it and post it in my classroom. Because I teach an elective, many students think that we are in class to
have fun. They complain when we do a little art history from our book. Many of my assignments are based in a
historical context. Now when they complain and whine, I can just send them to your statement and have them read it.
Chris Rioux of Lisbon, Maine, writes:
North Atlantic Regional Schools provides a diploma only when the
student can provide a portfolio of high school work and proof of credit hours that are equivalent to the State of
Maine requirements for graduation.
Joanne Jacobs writes about education and other issues at
JoanneJacobs.com. She&#8217;s writing a book, Ride the Carrot Salad, about a start-up charter high school in San
Jose.
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YIKES! Use of the language is most of the fun of
Shakespeare?
Are they correctly translating the (many) Elizabethan double-entendres?
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I see no problem with translating Shakespeare. At
school age I remember NOT reading shakespeare cause it hurt my head.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Too much to think about. Lots of kids give up and aren\'t
interested enough to try and read him.
I agree that anyone heading to college and wanting to major in english or
theatre etc should understand the original. But for those who don\'t care, translating is a great way to get
accross some great stories with sometimes great life lessons in them.
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class=\"post\">
In high school, I played Lady MacBeth.
double on
whaters?
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Public schools scare the hell out of me.
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Uh-huh.. something like 40% of CA high school students can\'t find CA on
a globe.
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Public schools scare the hell out of me.
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Uh-huh.. something like 40% of CA high school students can\'t find CA on a globe.
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What\'s a globe?
Come
on...Canada is EASY to find.
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Come on...Canada is EASY to find.
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I see no problem with translating Shakespeare. At school age I remember NOT
reading shakespeare cause it hurt my head. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Too much to think
about. Lots of kids give up and aren\'t interested enough to try and read him.
I agree that anyone heading to
college and wanting to major in english or theatre etc should understand the original. But for those who don\'t
care, translating is a great way to get accross some great stories with sometimes great life lessons in them.
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In high school, I played Lady MacBeth.
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What a coincidence, in high school I played w/ Lady MacBeth too.
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I remember in 10th grade english class, they played
us a record of Julius Ceasar. And I turned out just fine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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That\'s because they never played it backwards.
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I remember in 10th grade english class, they played us a record of Julius
Ceasar. And I turned out just fine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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That\'s because they never played it backwards.
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That\'s how I learned that one of the Beatles had died.
Having
taught at the, ahem, \"college level\", I can verify students are less educated. Many can hardly read or write.
With help, I had many writing by the end of term though, so it\'s just lack of teaching in HS. Yet there is
pressure on profs not to flunk students, as butt-filled seats pay the bills. Screw that. Pitiful.
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