What cause?
What cause?
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an independant basque-land I guess.
oh
What do they call themselves? Basquets? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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an independant basque-land I guess.
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> and many of them don´t even care about that. Those terrorists are just
dumber than a person should be allowed to be if they think they will achieve getting an independant state by bombing
people!!!
The basque party are against those actions too (allegedly).
these terrorists are too braindead for their
own good IMO. Besides I have some doubts that a basque country or state will be able to survive on its own
economically in the long run.
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Besides I have some doubts that a basque country
or state will be able to survive on its own economically in the long run.
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The Basque Country has traditionally been one of the most industrialized and rich parts of
Spain. I think that has been one of the reasons that wanted to be independant. Another one is that they have their
own language etc.
What is it with you Europeans and your languages.
The Basques don\'t wanna speak spanish.
The Ukranians wanna
speak ukranian.
The Estonians don\'t wanna speak russian.
etc,etc,etc.
Why don\'t you just speak english
already and get it over with. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I
think everyone should learn german that´ll really cause some mega confusion
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The Basque Country has traditionally been one of
the most industrialized and rich parts of Spain. I think that has been one of the reasons that wanted to be
independant. Another one is that they have their own language etc.
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I´m not too familiar with them so thanks. However they´re not that successful all on their own, they have the rest
of spain as backup in some way. They just piss me off with their cowardish killings!!!
Having said that it is
atill not 100% certain whether the bomb attack was theirs or whether it was another groups of psychos.
DUBAI (Reuters) - A letter
purporting to come from Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)\'s al Qaeda network claimed responsibility for the
train bombings in Spain on Thursday, calling them strikes against \"crusaders,\" a London-based Arabic newspaper
said.
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DUBAI (Reuters) - A letter purporting to come from
Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)\'s al Qaeda network claimed responsibility for the train bombings in Spain on
Thursday, calling them strikes against \"crusaders,\" a London-based Arabic newspaper said.
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yup, there were way too many victims for a \"normal\" ETA (basque
terrorists) attack. This could very well be the work of those Al Qaida morons..
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DUBAI (Reuters) - A letter purporting to come from Osama bin Laden (news -
web sites)\'s al Qaeda network claimed responsibility for the train bombings in Spain on Thursday, calling them
strikes against \"crusaders,\" a London-based Arabic newspaper said.
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yup, there were way too many victims for a \"normal\" ETA (basque terrorists) attack. This
could very well be the work of those Al Qaida morons..
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I got into
a huge fight with my co-worker about this when the news broke about the bombing. He was mad at me for saying it was
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I know, I watched BBC this
morning and they already said they didn´t know it was ETA or not. Seeing as Spain support(ed) the USA about Iraq,
Al Qaida is a distinct possibility.
ETA are also more `polite´ they phone or write first these people didn´t.
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I got into a huge fight with my co-worker about
this when the news broke about the bombing. He was mad at me for saying it was probably Al Qaeda
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You co-worker has sh!t between his ears.
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YOU WORK!?!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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I got into a huge fight with my co-worker about this when the news broke
about the bombing. He was mad at me for saying it was probably Al Qaeda
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You co-worker has sh!t between his ears.
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YOU WORK!?!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Kind of.....a few hours a day
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Your co-worker has sh!t between his ears.
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Yeah, he was mad that I blame all terror on those poor lil Islamic
extremists. HA!
When they stop blowing people up, I will stop accusing them.
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YOU WORK!?!?
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You
didn\'t know?? I thought you were almost as
well informed about Elana as I am..
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You didn\'t know?? I thought you were almost as good informed about
Elana as me.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Porn.....I like to keep it quiet
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Your co-worker has sh!t between his ears.
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Yeah, he was mad that I blame all terror on those poor lil Islamic extremists. HA!
When
they stop blowing people up, I will stop accusing them.
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This is
a typical Al Qaeda style bombing. On tv here they said things in this direction as well. Don\'t forget Spain has a
lot of troops in Iraq at the moment.
Masacre is the word used
on spanish yahoo btw. And right on too. About 200 dead and around 1.421 infured so far after a series of bomb
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Masacre is the word used on spanish yahoo btw. And
right on too. About 200 dead and around 1.421 infured so far after a series of bomb attacks.
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The pictures are heart breaking [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
This stuff will never go
away, unless some sort of concessions are made, no matter who we bomb.
Innocent people are dying in the
crossfire.
I\'m actually more
pissed at the people who immedietely started blaming the Basques, particularly some Pedro Gonzales idiot of a
politician who said something to the extent of having no doubt in his mind that the ETA is responsible. Good for
your elections and good as an excuse to level the basque areas, but from the beginning everything suggested the
opposite.
They want their own land, they\'re not idiotic enough to do something like this (which would of
course never get them anywhere). Plus ETA always strikes purposefuly, they blow up police stations and military
objects, no big TV show with flashy wrecks and weeping relatives.
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This stuff will never go away, unless some sort of
concessions are made, no matter who we bomb.
Innocent people are dying in the crossfire.
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Concessions won\'t make any difference. Innocent people were dying
before we started hunting Al Qaeda. Like any other extortionist, they\'ll be back demanding more and bigger
concessions the next time.
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Plus ETA always strikes purposefuly, they blow up
police stations and military objects, no big TV show with flashy wrecks and weeping relatives.
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Yeah, but is also known that ETA has had problems recruiting new
terrorists, getting new supporters etc. This could have been a former/extreme part of ETA that was not happy with
what was happening and decided to do this..
Truth is that this has
happened to the IRA in the past with splinter groups going on a rampage.
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This stuff
will never go away, unless some sort of concessions are made, no matter who we bomb.
Innocent people are dying in
the crossfire.
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Concessions won\'t make any difference.
Innocent people were dying before we started hunting Al Qaeda. Like any other extortionist, they\'ll be back
demanding more and bigger concessions the next time.
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My whole
point is, trying to hunt Al Qaeda will not stop things like happening from this. Also, I wouldn\'t consider
hunting them a concession.
Ideals are impractical. You can\'t root out everyone who is angry at you. And all
it takes is one angry person to do a lot of harm. There needs to be more appeasement with the Muslim world.
I\'ll agree that
we need to leave the muslim world to run itself, stop interfering with their way of life and government. Appeasement
is not and never will be acceptable though. Hunting them is not a concession. Simply put, there is only one way to
handle somebody who attacks you and appeasement is not it. We do not belong over there trying to tell them how to
live but they have no right to take innocent lives in any act of terrorism. Attacking innocent people, no matter who
does it, is always wrong and cannot be tolerated.
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Simply put, there is only one way to handle
somebody who attacks you and appeasement is not it.
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Well,
muslims and muslim extremists are two different parties. I agree that it isa dangerous message to send if we just
concede everything and give them what they want, but I am just saying give them enough to where the anger isn\'t
so great.
I\'m not willing to be a sacrificial lamb in the ideal of don\'t bargain with terrorists.
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Simply put, there is only one way to handle somebody who attacks you and
appeasement is not it.
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Well, muslims and muslim extremists are
two different parties. I agree that it isa dangerous message to send if we just concede everything and give them
what they want, but I am just saying give them enough to where the anger isn\'t so great.
I\'m not willing
to be a sacrificial lamb in the ideal of don\'t bargain with terrorists.
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I am unwilling to give an inch to terrorists. Their actions are extortion and as I said before,
any concession will result in greater demands. An act of terrorism shows the person is not rational and is is
unlikely to be willing to meet you half way. Look at other similar groups and tell me one that has been willing to
honestly compromise and stop the killing. Becoming a sacraficial lamb does not appeal to me either but I\'d rather
go out fighting for my beliefs now than to pay the piper time and again before he decides to blow me up.
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This stuff will never go away, unless some sort of
concessions are made, no matter who we bomb.
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Nonsense.
There\'s only one way to deal with terrorism.
With swift and blinding violence!
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